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SEGA 3D Classics Collection hitting retail in North America (April 26th, $29.99)
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chromatic9
Member
Yah, could've announced a new Sonic game.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
Wow, didn't know so many gaffers were straight up ignorant of what these releases even are. No wonder we have to beg for these kinds of things to come out in territories other than Japan.
No respect for the classics. What the fuck is new.
No respect for the classics. What the fuck is new.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Man, I wish I had a 3DS - I was expecting an PSN/XBL release...oh well :/
Drilbit777
Member
entremet
Member
Lame collection?
These are done by M2, which are much more authentic than anything on the Sonic Genesis collection.
Power Drift has never been ported to a US machine either.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
Is this really necessary for the third time?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, I can't wait for another compilation of the same 30 Genesis games, somewhat poorly emulated, with no advantages over the original.
minor effort
Banned
Man, I'm so pissed off Sega didn't announce Jet Set Radio... demake for System-16.
Drilbit777
Member
Didn't know two other people had already posted this, my bad lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Classics#SEGA_3D_Classics
look at all these games that dont come with it
streets of rage 1 and 2, space harrier, outrun, super hang on, shinobi 3, gunstar heroes, after burner 2...
Sega, WTF man.
look at all these games that dont come with it
streets of rage 1 and 2, space harrier, outrun, super hang on, shinobi 3, gunstar heroes, after burner 2...
Sega, WTF man.
Robin64
Member
M2 have set the standard, to be honest, these 3D remasters are the pinnacle of porting. They are not simply emulation.
wild wild rice
Member
Eh, guess I'll just stick to my a la carte 3D classics. Already own most of the ones I want.
Anyone who hasn't tried these for whatever reason really need to.
Anyone who hasn't tried these for whatever reason really need to.
"Authentic"? I want games, not weird phrasing. And i don't even know or care about that the game you named. I've never heard of it now have i known it ever existed.
I can't even tell the difference between my old Genesis copies and emulated versions, but i want a huge compilation collection and i want it NOW x(
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Essentially every single competitive puzzle game borrows from Puyo Puyo Tsu in some form. This collection is worth it just to play a bit of history.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Came here expecting:
Ended up with:
Rare set a great standard on how to do this......FUUUUUDGE.
I love Rare Replay but it's nothing more than emulation, the 3D Classics are of far higher quality.
To Far Away Times
Member
They left off most of the really great 3D Classics, but Powerdrift is exclusive to this....
Hmmm.
Also, M2, it's time to port/remake Outrunners.
Hmmm.
Also, M2, it's time to port/remake Outrunners.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
So you literally just don't know what you're talking about.
Luckydog
Member
I agree with this on the premise of individual games, but this is a compilation. Regardless of what you think of Rare's games, I think they did a good job of looking at their back catalog, grabbing a good chunk of games many people wanted, and putting it together at a decent price.
Certainly only my opinion, but I think there would have been a much bigger audience for Sonic, shining force, Virtua (insert game here), Saturn classic, than this grouping.
entremet
Member
Meaning not shoddy emulation like those Genesis collections.
Plus the games themselves have some nice additions too. Gunstar Heroes 3D plays completely differently, for example, due to new weapons options.
So even if you can't personally tell the difference, the games themselves are more than just ports.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Is this available for pre-order anywhere yet? Not seeing it on Amazon.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
You can really tell who hasn't played any of these games and/or doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
Came here expecting:
Ended up with:
Rare set a great standard on how to do this......FUUUUUDGE.
Pretty sure the standard was set with Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection, which had over 40 games
minor effort
Banned
One more note, these 3D Classics weren't even originally conceived as a compilation. They were created as individual remakes, released individually, on a scattered release schedule. You had people buying, playing, discussing, and appreciating all of these games as they were released throughout 2013-2015. Hell, the Outrun port alone was met with tons of hype, had people talking about Outrun all throughout 2014.
Each of these individually were kind of a big deal for Sega fans. This is not a slapped together emulation package like the Genesis collections on PSP/360/PS3.
Each of these individually were kind of a big deal for Sega fans. This is not a slapped together emulation package like the Genesis collections on PSP/360/PS3.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
This is exactly what I wanted and expected, not really sure why everyone was getting so hyped up over a simple Facebook post. I'll definitely pick it up for Puyo Puyo 2 and Power Drift. Hopefully another collection will be released with some of the other 3D classics, like 3D Gunstar Heroes.
That Canadian price is just sad, though.
That Canadian price is just sad, though.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yeah, the collection that doesn't include the lock-on extras in Sonic & Knuckles. That takes the Ultimate Genesis Collection completely out of the conversation of best compilation.
I'll take Rare Replay (which itself has a lot of issues) and this 3DS compilation over that one any day.
SpikedGunner
Member
I still can't believe we're getting the awesome Sugimori box art, he went to SEGA's TGS stage and sketched Nei on the spot...man can draw all Classic SEGA characters and it would be awesome.
IrishNinja
Member
that's the gist of what i'm seeing, yes
so actual classics you've somehow missed out on are redone better than ever, and you're let down because this isn't Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection again
just to be clear here
true, but those are a separate collection, hopefully we get those in the next volume like JP did!
Came here expecting:
Ended up with:
Rare set a great standard on how to do this......FUUUUUDGE.
so you want the bugs of that emulation, but not M2's superior work on some of these? that's the "great standard" for you?
pearls before swine
ah, is that who did it? it's such a cool cover
seriously, the divide is real
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
In this age of cheap and free phone games, it's not terribly surprising, unfortunately.
It's always been like that sadly, which is why we never got those Sega Ages compilations.
The Bankslammer
Member
Holy cow, I hadn't seen that. And I found Nei and Alis drawn by him while looking for it!
i love this big nerd
IrishNinja
Member
*sigh* we got a few greats on Saturn (ironically, not Power Drift again, haha) and that PS2 disc had a few fun things but yeah, there was a ton we missed out on...still want that Gunstar Treasure box!
CrispyBoar
Banned
Have patience, they'll be announcing something like that in the future.
Just let M2 do it, Sega
Luckydog
Member
This is really apples to oranges. Would I like a superior redux of Sega games, absolutely. Barring that, would I rather have an easily playable collection of games most people actually want to play, bugs and all, rather than this...YES.
I keep seeing these quotes stating anyone who doesn't want work from M2 doesn't know what they are talking about. I call BS on that. Just because someone would prefer an easily usable re-release on current consoles vs redone relatively obscure games doesnt mean they dont know what they are talking about. If you want Maze Walker and Power Drift more power to you, but I would rather have Phantasy Star and Shining Force.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Worth it for Power Drift alone. It's hard to find a playable version of that game in the U.S.
Yea thats the one negative with the collection
Did you even look at the game list?
SpikedGunner
Member
Hadn't see that one before, that's pretty awesome.
Voysa Reezun
Banned
I don't think it's an age gap thing.
For me, it's a case of wanting them to port some games that really need them because they are great and deserve more love. I can probably think of a few SMS or Genesis games that need ports (or Saturn games, though some of those are near impossible to port for many reasons; a really good Saturn collection is probably the big thing SEGA will never be able to put forth that is really needed) too. Comix Zone has limited ports, IIRC, for example, and could use a fresh one. (Side note: I do appreciate the two releases that are coming stateside for the first time on this compilation.)
I also didn't mention this in my post, but it's coming out on 3DS, which does nothing for me personally. I still might give this a look if it were on PS4.
I think disappointment is fair because it really does come from a place of love. Other than Nintendo, SEGA is the only company with a high number of IPs that people who post at a site like this genuinely love. But I do see where people are coming from in their frustration with the complaining.
For me, it's a case of wanting them to port some games that really need them because they are great and deserve more love. I can probably think of a few SMS or Genesis games that need ports (or Saturn games, though some of those are near impossible to port for many reasons; a really good Saturn collection is probably the big thing SEGA will never be able to put forth that is really needed) too. Comix Zone has limited ports, IIRC, for example, and could use a fresh one. (Side note: I do appreciate the two releases that are coming stateside for the first time on this compilation.)
I also didn't mention this in my post, but it's coming out on 3DS, which does nothing for me personally. I still might give this a look if it were on PS4.
I think disappointment is fair because it really does come from a place of love. Other than Nintendo, SEGA is the only company with a high number of IPs that people who post at a site like this genuinely love. But I do see where people are coming from in their frustration with the complaining.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It's weird because this is actually Volume 2 in Japan. So, I hope we get their Volume 1 at some point, which will become our Volume 2 lol