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Splatoon | Review Thread
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Don't think there's really that much crow to be served in terms of reception when people did say it would be marked down a bit for content (even though some people expected most reviewers to "tear it apart" they were overall the minority).
The jury's still out on whether the game will be a commercial flop. Which personally going by the trends I think is impossible at this point but I could be wrong.
What the hell?
Holding back? The maps and modes aren't done. Simple.
All online feature were design decisions not system draw backs.
This post is wtf.
th4tguy
Member
Nintendo games hardly ever go on sale for good prices. And by the time it does go on sale (if it did), the online pop would be horrible. What would be the point of playing?
I'm not arguing against wait and see policy, but if you HAVE to play this game, play it at launch as it's your best chance.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Game itself is 1.5 gb. I doubt a couple extra maps are going to take up that much extra space.
And that's assuming the maps aren't actually already on the disk.
Sales as in sales figures, not dollarzz/britbux/yencoins off.
It still could be, and is in my book. A true GotY doesn't need only rely on quantity of it's content, as that could be subjective to the person who just simply wants more. Especially if it picks up steam with the supposed map complexity updates.
Corronchilejano
Member
If a game bombs it usually doesn't reflect on the quality of the game. Good games can bomb, bad games can sell millions of copies.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Thats why they are releasing new things nearly each week.
Depends expectations people have. If it sells 250k over the weekend in NA-only, will people say it flopped because it didn't sell 300k?
Time to get that chalk board.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Yes.
Well...shit.
Chezzymann
Member
OK this made me laugh
"Splatoon sold X. That seems pretty good."
"Nope, that is failure for this game, it should've sold Y. Say good bye to ever seeing a sequel to this game ever again. I blame the Wii U."
Gonzo The Great
Banned
I think Splatoon will be successful. It has online multiplayer. The best selling games every year always have multiplayer functionality of some kind. Look at Mario Kart. Look at Smash Bros. People want to play games with their friends.
Which is why people saying they expect a flop or a game will be a flop is pointless. We don't know the budget of the game. Unless the game only sells 30k or some Wonderful 101 type figure, saying whether it flopped or was a success is baseless.
Since I wrote this review for Ars Technica, here's the corresponding explanation (also in the review) -
"You'll want to switch to joystick-only controls as quickly as possible for one reason: the motion controls will frequently turn your joystick off in the heat of battle, effectively making it impossible to quickly turn around when, for example, a paint-rolling opponent is about to run you down."
"I'll only buy one when it's 99 Dollars and doesn't come with a gamepad"
Wait what? It didn't do that for me. I was using the sticks for large wide motions, generally anything above 90 degrees, and then the motion controls for fine/short motions.
Splatoon is a success if it becomes a franchise.
Weird. Don't recall anything like that during the Testfire sessions.
Weird. Don't recall anything like that during the Testfire sessions.
Starfish Hero
Member
I remember when people were saying 3D World was a flop, and it's at 4 million lol
I think 250k in NA over the first weekend would be pretty impressive for a new IP on Wii U, if only because coupling that with Japan's evident opening performance means it ought to have an easy ride in crossing the 500k threshold within it's first two weeks. Since Nintendo is in it for the long haul I think that would be a good success in and of it's own.
As anecdotal as it is there's a bunch of people who openly admit to only choosing to buy the game later in the Summer once the content rolls around, if that's indicative over potential legs if Nintendo continues support, Splatoon should outperform the minimum baseline of Nintendo's own expectations. Depending on how Nintendo continues to develop it, the answer ought to be easy to suss out. And hell, if we ever see it become more of a franchise, that should be a good indicator that the game was anything but a flop.
Admittedly it's not that easy to gauge game development "budgets" and returns, but Splatoon was developed by a smaller initiative at first for the Wii U in a time when it was kind of clear that very little was going to resuscitate Wii U sales in a big way, so chances are they had their expectations fairly set from the start.
There's no logic that frequent map additions can be available just a few weeks from day 1 and not before, if the game discs were pressed a month ago (with just 5 maps).
This is a planned draw back, in the same way as Ranked Battles isn't available from start.
So not done why rush release? I can understand holiday but it a dead period now. This is not a "normal" type of release.
Yeah like across game group chat. Design decision....SMH that have nothing to do with the game itself. It just make playing with friend terrible and you have to use outside ways of contact. We had countless thread about this. Again its the system holding back the game. really no reason not have these system level features.
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
Wow, nice reviews. Disappointing to see that the game's distribution model is still such a point of contention, knocking the aggregate score down a few points. It would be nice if the reviews that complain about the lack of content came back and rereviewed the game in August when all of the content is out, but I doubt that'll happen.
PixalTheCat
Banned
Which you can't even easily do in Splatoon
Got a good chuckle.
On a more serious note though, I'm surprised by reading some of the reviews or watching some of the videos how the lack of content on launch is not seen as bad thing. If someone else did this they would get lambasted, but seems people want to give Nintendo a free pass on it. The gametrailers video specifically goes out of its way to mention how lacking the game seems and how monotonous it gets so quickly replaying the same stuff over and over near the end, and still give the game a 8.4. Seems the text and the score really don't match up.
Yup, it's that Nintendo bias at play.
Chezzymann
Member
I agree that they probably should have waited until august to release the game as relasing it so incomplete is pretty shitty despite the free updates, but I'm assuming they need something to fill this gap in software at least in north America and it probably will benefit the online community and keep it more active by having content come out nearly each week
Still should have had more content day 1 though especially for a multiplayer focused game
Still should have had more content day 1 though especially for a multiplayer focused game
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I could play the same arena and same mode for days.
The game is THAT fun.
(I could also play a few other shooters that are that good like that without it getting stale)
You don't need 500 arenas and 17 modes to have a good time.
It just seems the core of the game is so good that it still is scoring well in the state it's in.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Such scores with only 5 maps!?
Gosh, it's almost like there's more to a game than the bullet points on the back of the box.
Gosh, it's almost like there's more to a game than the bullet points on the back of the box.
Corronchilejano
Member
Well, for $60 people expect a lot more, but don't think people can't have fun with only a few maps for a long time. BF 1943 had 4 maps and that kept me playing for years. At least we know a hell of a lot more maps are coming for free.
Yep. I mean it's great and everything that they want to deliver more stuff later on, but that doesn't change that it's missing now, and the Game is being reviewed in it's actual state, wich is lacking.
What Reviewers are doing is correct, the fact that stuff comes later should not play into the scores, since there is no 100% gurantee that in the End things will come exactly as planned. So rate whats available.
Even if this game was released in August, Nintendo would still roll out the features gradually.
Hey now, it won't be truly next-gen unless the online is broken at launch as well. Jury's still out on that one!
I think its pretty clear that the lack of content is a major reason these scores are in the 8 range. From the reviews, it sounds like a fantastic game that would have scored in the 9-10 range if it weren't for the lack of content.
Reviews are very good. Game should do 500K ww or close in its first week, something like 130K JP, 210K US, 160K EU. It could be more. It will have legs clearly, and will be pushed as a first class evergreen title by Nintendo. Could clear the million this year. I see growth, I see crows.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Talk about low hanging fruit
Yes because why balance a map. Ofcourse you can make a map in a month. Come on man you have to know making proper maps is not easy.
They have zero third party support, they thought they needed a game out during this time period.
I sincerely doubt that they are purposely holding back maps.
Anyway Monster Hunter has game voice chat.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Well, duh, a 4M flop. Nothing to see here - move along.
Early eShop games have had voice chat.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Games are more than a list of features. I'd rather play Splatoon with only 1 map than any other multiplayer shooter out there.
nobodyshero
Banned
Maybe 8.4 is the lowered score. There's no magical formula as to what content is worth on a point by point rate.
Besides, this isn't a matter of Nintendo not delivering on what was promised. They've been pretty upfront as to what will be released at a later date, and giving time frames.
So cool to see so many Japanese players playing the game
I heard it is doing pretty good in Japan preorder wise.
Lol, this crap again.
If they are going to release 9 new maps until August (as shown in the Splatoon Direct), they are either already completed or very easy to do/balance.
Last I heard there were more Splatoon pre-orders in Japan than the total sales of The Wonderful 101 in North America as of March 2015