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The Leftovers |OT| Left Behind With Damon Lindelof - Sundays 10/9c
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Did anyone think it was stupid that no one cared that their leader wasn't there on a night they had been planning for quiet awhile when just the episode before (non-flashback) they were worried sick?
ThLunarian
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I'm only basing this on the summary of the book's plot on Wikipedia, but if it was pretty close to what actually happens, then the show added A LOT of stuff that doesn't happen in the book.
In the book, Kevin is actually the mayor, and not on the police force.
The Guilty Remnant works very differently than in the show. The smoking, muteness, and wearing white are still there, but other than that it's just completely different. There are no organized demonstrations or whatever like what we see in the show. The mass chaos in the finale doesn't happen in the book.
Patty isn't even a character in the book. Neither is the Mysterious Dog Killer. I don't even think that dogs are a factor.
Kevin's dad doesn't appear in the book at all, let alone as the possibly-crazy former chief of police.
Holy Wayne is definitively outed as a fraud, and admits it to his entire congregation, effectively killing the movement.
After dropping the baby off on his dad's doorstep, Tommy goes after Christine, who joined a cult of barefoot people.
The Guilty Remnant works very differently than in the show. The smoking, muteness, and wearing white are still there, but other than that it's just completely different. There are no organized demonstrations or whatever like what we see in the show. The mass chaos in the finale doesn't happen in the book.
Patty isn't even a character in the book. Neither is the Mysterious Dog Killer. I don't even think that dogs are a factor.
Kevin's dad doesn't appear in the book at all, let alone as the possibly-crazy former chief of police.
Holy Wayne is definitively outed as a fraud, and admits it to his entire congregation, effectively killing the movement.
After dropping the baby off on his dad's doorstep, Tommy goes after Christine, who joined a cult of barefoot people.
So yeah, the book didn't need nearly as much resolution as the show would now require.
RedAssedApe
Banned
im confused. only watched the pilot...but reviews on this thing seem to be all over the place.
BoboBrazil
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So did I make the right decision dropping this after episode 4?
GavinUK86
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If you didn't enjoy at least two of those episodes then yes.
From the first four episodes I enjoyed three of them, and I ends up enjoying everything else.
There's a lot of cooler stuff happening toward the end, but its still the same show.
GavinUK86
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The way they used this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-B8k0n_3cs&list=RDX-B8k0n_3cs had me in tears.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The season was completed before it even premiered (iirc), plus, that's apparently how the book ends. So.
Lumpy Onion
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Dying for a soundtrack release. I can't think of any show I have seen in recent years whose score has moved me as much as this one. Hauntingly beautiful.
I would have been so disappointed
Just saw the Nora Durst episode and it's really good. Too bad the Garveys are the focus, they are hardly that interesting. The priest episode was interesting but it was so wrapped around in mysticism that it kind of failed as a character study, while the Nora episode hit the sweet spot. Definitely the best episode I've seen so far.
At least they called some attention to her even if it was last episode.
Other cults are probably ashamed to even be compared with GR because they so disorganized
bodyofanamerican
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Here's something interesting. I doubt it would happen, but what if season 2 isn't in Mapleton, and we get all new characters experiencing weird/similar stuff?
Doubt it though.
Doubt it though.
GavinUK86
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I hope not, BUT season one covers the entire book so now it's completely up to the shows writers they could do that. I like these characters too much though so I hope they don't.
Well AICN thought the season finale would end with
. AICN is usually a very credible news site for TV and movies so that is why I spoiled that part as it may still happen, but why would they even think that would happen? The idea might of been too soon for a season 1 finale but I hope it reappears at the end of season 2.
I don't know if the GR will continue after this episode. I don't know if it even can. And that could take the show into some better places.
the 2% coming back without knowing where they left to
I don't know if the GR will continue after this episode. I don't know if it even can. And that could take the show into some better places.
bodyofanamerican
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This is true, and I agree, but I think the group will exist in some newer, mutated form under Meg. The crazy amount of anger and hate in her eyes said to me that they have plans for her character, and she'd make a great main antagonist, IMO.
That sounds like a misunderstanding of what actually happened.
BoboBrazil
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Nope. You made the wrong decision. Go watch them immediately!
Hmmm, I should go watch them then. Hopefully the second season they aren't locked down by a book.
ThLunarian
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They definitely won't be. All the major story points that carried over from the book were resolved. There's nothing tying them down anymore.
BadAss2961
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I thought about that too. I don't like the idea of rehashing the same thing through different characters and another setting. But I also don't see how they can continue this story without it becoming ridiculous, but i'll be watching.
I really enjoyed this series.
roosters93
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Just got round to watching the finale today. I feel like a high schooler or something to say so but the first word that came to mind was epic. I get completely engrossed in the episodes and also get what feels like an adrenalin rush watching it lol. I find it to be a well-constructed show, very good at what it's aiming for in that department.
really? really?!
feel free to report back on how that went for you
ha ha
I usually don't like to get into the plot discussion and motivations of characters/acting/whatever but the thought just occurred to me, and it seems semi-reasonable in this instant, that maybe since she was breaking her silence she wanted to keep it to as little as possible (1 word obviously) and in real life too when your speech is limited you kinda emphasise the word like that imploring the person you're conversing with to understand the full meaning of what you're trying to say in that little amount. To pick up on everything left unsaid.
might have!
really? really?!
feel free to report back on how that went for you
ha ha
I usually don't like to get into the plot discussion and motivations of characters/acting/whatever but the thought just occurred to me, and it seems semi-reasonable in this instant, that maybe since she was breaking her silence she wanted to keep it to as little as possible (1 word obviously) and in real life too when your speech is limited you kinda emphasise the word like that imploring the person you're conversing with to understand the full meaning of what you're trying to say in that little amount. To pick up on everything left unsaid.
might have!
That idea strikes me as a little too network-y
bodyofanamerican
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Pretty interesting discussion on the finale. I'm about 10 minutes in (it's a 30 minute video), and am enjoying it thus far.
Cornballer
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- THR: 'The Leftovers' Director Unravels Finale Mysteries
Q&A via the link.
Sounds like they just misinterpreted the GR's plan.
Inferno313
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Yep, with the 4400 being the most similar. Hell in that show they also have a messianic figure. Though of course I'm sure HBO wouldn't go the superpowers route with the departed...
bodyofanamerican
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Great article, thanks for posting. I didn't need to be told that Kevin's look was a look of death when Laurie came near him and Jill after the fire, but it was deeply satisfying to know that that was, indeed, the case.
Despite the awful "American" accent he tries to portray, I love Eccleston in this show. He's probably my favorite character, and I'm not even remotely religious.
I don't know if I even like this show, but it's going to be hard waiting on Season 2 at this point.
Was thrilled that he was the person Garvey was able to turn to in a pinch and rely on him to get him out of the shit.
I don't know if I even like this show, but it's going to be hard waiting on Season 2 at this point.
lmao! I don't remember it being that bad but thereitis.gif
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This is the worst show I currently watch, but I kinda wanna see what happens.
Really? The GR with their pointless rituals, over the top and confusing actions, and not acknowledging the remembering people are actually doing are the "realists who aren't living in denial"?
dead souls
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"So, are they a cult, really?"
L-O-fucking-L.
That's some fucking grade A spin. The GR is about as stereotypical a depiction of a cult as I've ever seen on television, and I watch The Following.
L-O-fucking-L.
That's some fucking grade A spin. The GR is about as stereotypical a depiction of a cult as I've ever seen on television, and I watch The Following.
I watched this last night......I'm still like WTF did i just see. Had to hunt down this thread just to say that. WTF, every time they show one of those
Mannequins?!?
I thoroughly enjoyed it.........
not sure if enjoyed it is the proper word because you dont feel good after but man I loved the weird ride it took me on.
I haven't read through the reactions, but I really loved how Season 1 ended. I'm definitely going back for a rematch.
I enjoyed how Leftovers treated it's audience as intelligent, patient people. Somethings had to be spelled out, but most things were left out in the open. It allowed the audience to be a bit more participatory and sure of its self.
I enjoyed how Leftovers treated it's audience as intelligent, patient people. Somethings had to be spelled out, but most things were left out in the open. It allowed the audience to be a bit more participatory and sure of its self.
Pretty sure it was for his family back.
Yeah, I can't tell if the director is just defending the script or that's an actual worldview she subscribes to, but accepting a loss and moving on with your life is healthy and normal behavior, not living in denial. It's a little crazy and partly dangerous to suggest that spending years of your life wallowing in the memory of lost loved ones (and other people's losses too?) and forcing that onto yourself constantly is supposed to be the "realist" mindset.
GavinUK86
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Yeah, I interpreted it as he wanted a new family, a new beginning, not the old one, fixed.
Finally watched it. Good final episode. One of the best episodes of the show IMO.
I hate the way they constantly tease supernatural things or people being crazy things happening and then segue into it having been a dream....
The book
and
Oh and the book
I hate the way they constantly tease supernatural things or people being crazy things happening and then segue into it having been a dream....
The book
is so different from the show they are almost completely different stories
season 2 will have to be basically written from scratch the book is done.
didn't have any supernatural occurrences at all as I remember it.
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