Viruz
Member
IF some of the moderation team or some users really went for good, then they will be replaced . Nobody is irreplaceable.
NeoGaf will still be GAF.
BELIEVE
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IF some of the moderation team or some users really went for good, then they will be replaced . Nobody is irreplaceable.
NeoGaf will still be GAF.
BELIEVE
Abstruse Moose
Member
Hillary Clinton. Don't you dare think she was a bad candidate.
IF some of the moderation team or some users really went for good, then they will be replaced . Nobody is irreplaceable.
NeoGaf will still be GAF.
BELIEVE
But the question is who to BELIEVE. Evilore or his accuser?
Subpar Spatula
Banned
I thought she was a bad candidate and said why. I'm still here.
Hmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Raptomex
Member
Yes, but not every different idea or opinion promotes racism or sexism. That's the point. For example, I think I've seen posts today (from those leaving/suicide posts) that have stated anybody who stays here is a sexist, predator, etc. That's downright not true. But if you don't leave, that's the consensus. We are now all terrible people according to that group. It's just ludicrous.
That's always the paradox with these types, ain't it?
DarkArterialGore
Member
Good riddance!!!
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Oh fucking SHIT. I told everyone in OT she sucked.
Too bad the mean old mods banned me for liking Bernie. Noooooooooooooooo
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Get out side of GAF sometime.. I'm not saying I agree with those others on their views, but there was clearly a bias here. Certain posters had free reign. A lot of posters felt they couldn't post in topics. It was clear in some threads anything but an echo-chamber meant you were getting either banned or dogpiled. Neither of those things were good for discussion. The level of discourse in OT had dwindled to some shit levels the last few years.
Use some critical thought some time and you'll see what I'm getting at.
The mods quit because they had to or they'd be considered hypocrites. They'd be considered hypocrites because of the way they had modded off-topic over the last few years.
Euphoria14
Member
I remember those days.
The abuse we took as Bernie supporters. We were supposed to just step away. We didn't know better.
Heck, he is still putting up a fight and continues to get shit on.
Didn't get banned for supporting him though, just dogpiled. We were outnumbered.
Abstruse Moose
Member
I never said people got banned for it. Of course you're still here.
Gaf have always been dramatic, one way or not, it's one of the reasons why hype threads during e3 were hilarious.
But as someone who is more interested in watching how the community dissolves than who's going to win the forum battle in future, I can at least tell you this.
Bulk of NintendoGaf, Salesgaf, pokemongaf etc are gone. Go into the OTs and take a look. The posters who bailed are seemingly active ones.
Why am I telling you this? Because I love doing so. Resetera can bomb for all I care and I will still observe the ramifications of this fall out.
Account suicide is such a waste when you can observe trends and talk about it, just like it was in sales.
Hahaha
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
It's NeoGAF without the name cache but still all of the terrible moderators.
cicero
Member
How cute. The idea that NeoGAF hasn't been at ALL about labeling, denigrating, and dismissing out of hand, with yes indeed, a holier-than-thou attitude, an entire segment of users here, simply because they disagreed with certain positions or ideas they had, is just laughably inane. That you would try now to paint yourself the victim of someone with *haha* "gamergate ways" is pathetic.
NeoGAF has indeed been a protected safe haven for people with specific political/social agendas. That someone would send you off to a new "safe haven" for those of your apparent worldview/mindset is hardly surprising, especially given that at least one major NeoGAF alternative has already specifically stated that they are making sure that those with opposing viewpoints are being filtered out.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
There's something poetic about even a thread this grave and specific devolving into a 2016 election thread
You said the mods quit because the site is left wing.
You're wrong. You're not making any sense.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
Maybe when I was 12.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
And yet no one hates me for thinking her campaigning was flawed.
What is your point? You got none.
I post in ways that make people think I am contrarian for the sake of contrarian. Pretty sure a lot of people find me straight up obnoxious. I'm still here somehow. I don't even know any mods.
Like, y'all have this weird ass persecution complex.
Icomp
Member
Its too bad the situation got this far, Im not very informed regarding this but how can one person destroy an entire community and/or website? It doesnt make sense to me, we come here to discuss gaming and everything around entertainment, the future seems to be better and more on-topic even though its labeled as off-topic.
I hope for the best.
I hope for the best.
CaviarMeths
Member
Which mods are those?
There are no old GAF mods functioning as moderators there.
Where do people read this.
Yeah fuck off. Glad to see banning for this kind of garbage is still in effect.
That was a travesty. I left during that time PoliGAFs mod approved dogpiling was insufferable. To this day I am allergic to "Yaaass slay queen".
Raptomex
Member
Because people do this. Especially the crowd that left. They believe posting on NeoGAF supports sexual assault. That's not how it works at all.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Huge progressive here, and I do think I was unfairly banned twice during primaries.
Also there was a clear double standard regarding enforcement of name calling and post and thread title moderation based on mod candidate preferences.
Not a huge problem. But a problem. Fixed with more transparency and accountability. (Ban reason, title change reason posted). That way it's easy to see record and counteract double standards.
Also, once I argued that putting yourself in clearly dangerous situations for religious reasons was a bad idea and was instantly banned for victim blaming.
This is your problem. The unwillingness to admit being wrong and picking hills to die on as if it's important or a point of pride. Why are you so afraid of being wrong? Why are you so afraid that of admitting you are more than often enough toxic and fixing the problematic behavior? Is it more fun to just be a shitty person?
OK, than do you do anything to express frustration?
My point is that it's a healthy human response.
Career as what actually? Guy that owns a forum?
I was staunchly critical of Hillary Clinton on this forum, and even lamented that the bullshit email and Benghazi "scandals" made it impossible to have thorough and honest discussions about her real weaknesses as a potential president.
I dislike the revisionist history that Hillary never talked about her policies because it's a bald faced lie. She did often, but no one wanted to discuss them, nevermind thoroughly analyze how she could turn them into actual law.
Nothing about the 2016 election was honest, including the discussion surrounding it on this forum alongside the rest of the internet. And it still isn't an entire year later. The one thing I do know was that I could be critical of Hillary without fear of moderation just fine on this forum.
I dislike the revisionist history that Hillary never talked about her policies because it's a bald faced lie. She did often, but no one wanted to discuss them, nevermind thoroughly analyze how she could turn them into actual law.
Nothing about the 2016 election was honest, including the discussion surrounding it on this forum alongside the rest of the internet. And it still isn't an entire year later. The one thing I do know was that I could be critical of Hillary without fear of moderation just fine on this forum.
blankempathy
Member
You seem to be a good fit for this site going by your postings. Its probably why you're still here. Like others are saying though bans weren't the only way people felt they couldn't speak out.
One other issue that I find with OT Gaf is the blanket denigration of all posters with "anime" avatars, and using the term "anime avatar" like an insult. For people who love to claim that they are against marginalization, they really love to put labels on people and attack them.
CaviarMeths
Member
Surely you're speaking of a different, alternate universe Subpar Spatula.
Hello Tyler,
Why not pass the site on and save face? If Sterling can sell a basketball franchise after his racist views came to light, I think you can manage finding a buyer for a popular gaming forum. What you're accused of often leads to skeletons in the closet and your response to that girl was highly insensitive.
Rather than continue to splinter Gaf, which is a decent community for gaming and off topic discussion, why not do the right thing by moving on and reforming your outlook on what constitutes appropriate behavior towards women.
Thanks,
Lurker and occasional poster,
MC
Why not pass the site on and save face? If Sterling can sell a basketball franchise after his racist views came to light, I think you can manage finding a buyer for a popular gaming forum. What you're accused of often leads to skeletons in the closet and your response to that girl was highly insensitive.
Rather than continue to splinter Gaf, which is a decent community for gaming and off topic discussion, why not do the right thing by moving on and reforming your outlook on what constitutes appropriate behavior towards women.
Thanks,
Lurker and occasional poster,
MC
Raptomex
Member
I believe so. Running NeoGAF is big bucks. It's a popular/was popular site with tons of traffic.
Exactly this. There is also no middle-ground or non-ground. It's only binary. Just look at how Subpar Spatula (taking him as an example) responded to an earlier post of mine. People don't even read your posts anymore, they just put you on one side and judge you on that.
(He also hasn't responded to my post where I specifically pointed it out to him.)
dolabla
Member
Holy shit, that is nuts. Some of these people would be scary if they were actual leaders. They are authoritarians without the power. Very mentally weak individuals.
The poster used them to equate why sexual themes in videogames don't create perverts. Try again. Also I really urge you to read the wiki on whataboutism.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
You drank too much koolaid. You know you got no argument when you consider decency, accountability, and standards as toxic things shitty people do.
You just outted yourself as a gamergater.
I would call that a career. Making a living for sure, but when I see career, I imagine something that progresses upwards.
Aside from GAF imploding this didn't look like much of a career oppurtunity.
Is it baseless?
He's admitted to sexual harassment and assault himself on this very forum. Even if it turns out that this woman lied(which seems extremely unlikely as EL has admitted to this interaction in the Waypoint article), that's not going to magically wipe away the shit he has done in the past like grabbing a random woman's ass or sharing revenge porn.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Are you talking about me here as well? Genuine question, because I don't see anything wrong with what I was talking to you about earlier.
Nah I've seen Spatula in arguments and they usually triple down and become an asshole while doing so.
I will confirm Spatula did explain why they disliked Clinton as a candidate though. I definitely saw that.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Dude you argued some people who celebrate Zwarte Piete aren't bad people. Like, why even argue that. Lol.
CaviarMeths
Member
Dumpster fire of a week he's having so far aside, his ownership of NeoGAF is most definitely a career. He's a web-based entrepreneur.
You literally made this up.
KazenY2J
Member
Crossing Eden always blows a blood vessel at anything anime related, or any female character showing skin.
No point in even arguing with them.
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