Jawmuncher
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Pretty much in the same boat.
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Titanfall 2 Multiplayer Technical Test Impressions (XB1/PS4)
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Pretty much in the same boat.
Yeah might be that I was missing a shooter like this since I've been playing only Overwatch non stop for months but holy fuck I'm having tons of fun, the gunplay is absolute perfection atm
Confirmed my D1 pre-ordering
Only things that I'd want back is the speed boost when jumping and the Titans ai
And a tad less busy maps, I still like the one in this test tho
Graphically I couldn't expect any better on X1, smooth and a really clean IQ (surprisingly)
Confirmed my D1 pre-ordering
Only things that I'd want back is the speed boost when jumping and the Titans ai
And a tad less busy maps, I still like the one in this test tho
Graphically I couldn't expect any better on X1, smooth and a really clean IQ (surprisingly)
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I'm not even calling what's changed good, feeling indifferent really, and I have no idea how it pan out in keeping people around, especially when we've barely scratched the surface here. I hope it does, because this will be a fun diversion to be able to go back to if there's no worries about getting a decent match going.
TheChundertaker
Member
Just wondering, do you play on PC. My experience last playing the game was like 2 months ago on xbox but I had no trouble finding matches. I know PC's community allegedly dropped much more.
Game is out in just over two months so I'm not really hopeful it'll be fixed for then.There is still hope:
Can't believe the amount of stuff Respawn have changed thinking it's for the better. I won't list them all again, but attrition not being in the game (if rumours are true) in favour of this new bounty hunt mode is one of the biggest missteps. I wouldn't mind it if that mode was well designed but I've seen so much camping going on and it completely goes against the flow of the game.
Although it's nowhere near as good as TF1, I've rather enjoyed this test build but the lack of AI and attrition mode are making me seriously consider not bothering with it and getting COD instead.
You can get Attrition matches with generally no problem on PC, it's mostly the other modes that are dead. But then they hate Attrition so....
TheChundertaker
Member
You can get Attrition matches with generally no problem on PC, it's mostly the other modes that are dead. But then they hate Attrition so....
I just wanted to gloss over the anti-attrition bit
I honestly can't disagree more. I just played two matches and by the second match I was again flying through the map like this (sorry for the black bars):
I kept reading about how much slower and more sluggish TF2 was supposed to be compared to the first game and I don't understand where that notion is coming from. I was jumping and wallrunning around like during my best TF1 days and was rewarded for it with an end score of 26 to 12, picking off the guys just sprinting around, playing it like CoD, just like it was supposed to be.
I know "This is just X version of CoD" is a very popular and easy thing to say, but having the movement in this game is so, so much more elaborate, useful and fun than in AW or BO3 (even though I haven't played BO3 too much - the best players make the movement look like TF, but I have never gotten into the groove myself).
Have you SEEN CoD
these days
Wall running isn't unique to Titanfall. That gif had wall running in an open space, it wasn't climbing up roof tops, running past Titan fire only to meet a guy in a hallway.
What you showed is possible in CoD. Not what was unique in Titanfall.
DudeWithNoName
Member
Part of the reason it became a ghost town (which is not really the case anyway) was it was Xbox One exclusive.
They should have taken TF1 and expanded it. New maps, more titans, more customization, etc. Instead of blowing it up and building from scratch. They royally fucked up.
Alx
Member
I thought Attrition was out of the beta because that's what people play most and they wanted to focus on other modes, but I'd be really sad if it didn't make it to the final game. It would actually be a deal breaker, since it's all I've been playing in TF1. Just run around, shoot at stuff and earn points, perfect.
The Bounty Hunter mode isn't that bad actually, I even like running to the bank (or wondering if I should take risks when sitting on a pile of money), but it's no Attrition.
The Bounty Hunter mode isn't that bad actually, I even like running to the bank (or wondering if I should take risks when sitting on a pile of money), but it's no Attrition.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Hopefully they delay it 6 months and completely re-tool it. EA has Battlefiejd at the same time anyway. No need to send this game to its death unnecessarily.
Wrong. Many who loved the first game simply wanted the same gameplay format but with more content in comparison to what the first game had at launch.
This isn't true at all. The AI bots helped reduce your Titanfall time -- especially when the other players were camping in a map. They helped the action pack nature of the game as they made more Titans drop down in a match.
I still can't believe that there are people who feel that the AI bots added nothing. The original game has been out for more than 2 years. Just 10 matches should show anyone why they were placed in the game.
But if you did well, you had more Titans than players who played poorly and you would recieve those Titans faster. So this criticism doesn't make any sense at all.
If anything your post proved to me that many who like Titanfall 2 that played Titanfall 1 are people that didn't fully understand the purpose of Titanfall 1's format (in Attrition).
Titanfall 2 isn't a bad game but it greatly feels like a predecessor of Titianfall 1 instead of a sequel and I can't remember the last time in which such an anticipated sequel has felt this way.
Jawmuncher
Member
They can't delay it if they wanted, since they have a gamefuel promotion.
excaliburps
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"Easy" fix would be best of both worlds? Have two "main" modes wherein one has AI, the other not as much or none at all.
I'm in the camp that I think the game can be better than what it is now, but also, that the tweaks needed won't be anything too major that Respawn won't be able to do it. I mean if all they did was:
- Make Titans tied to timers instead of point boosting
- Add more AIs (or at least showcase a mode where there's more)
- Make UI cleaner
- Show or introduce maps where chaining movement is easier and actually doable and beneficial (which might be the case with some of the other maps for all we know)
- Make TTK longer
- Show a game mode that's better than what we've seen so far
That could work, right? That's a fair majority of what people are complaining about that can (relatively) be fixed easy -- at least not in a way that you have to redesign something from the ground up (the timer maybe).
The negative stuff really will hurt it -- especially for old fans. Having said that, most PlayStation gamers haven't played TF1, so there's nothing to compare it to. If they want it, they can sway the game from being a success or not. Although, having said that, it will get crushed by BF1 regardless of the game's quality. I mean, BF and CoD are the two titans (heh) of the FPS genre that other games avoid since the respective games' fans will snatch them up regardless of reviews and whatnot.
I would love to see the hook changed for swinging more and then pressing the button to reel myself in. It would also help if they had way more verticality in the maps.
TheAngryMonkey
Member
I feel like people assume Xbox sold like Wii U because it isn't beating Sony. It died off far slower on Xbox than PC and a large part of that had to do with unlocks. Too many people can't simply play a game for the game, they need some carrot to chase.
At this point though T1 is a game where nearly everyone runs car, stim, electric smoke, nuke eject, arc cannon and cluster missile. It's stale and too easy for a team to steamroll the other if they get a full team of Titans.
This is really what I want them to do. If the maps in this test are indicative of the quality of the rest (and considering that they've referred to the map coming next weekend as 'open'), keep the 4-6 best Titanfall 2 maps they've made, scrap the rest and fill it out with Titanfall 1 maps. Then keep the grapple (for every player), slide and Campaign.
I just don't have much faith in Titanfall 2 at this point.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Worryingly I've not even seen the London server break out of 3 digits for each game mode. Playerbase is definitely a concern for the game IMO.
UltimaPooh
Member
Literally when people post things about the flow of Titanfall 1... they post things like the above.
And now you're complaining that it still doesn't look like Titanfall.
TheAngryMonkey
Member
I 100% feel too many people are over reacting to what they are seeing in a game test build from two months ago. People complaining about the lack of grunt dialogue is ridiculous as it's something that isn't required for the game to function and easy to add towards the end (like right now). Have these same people not realized there is no actual dialogue at the beginning of the match? Just some awkward animation of a guy with a knife. There are clearly unfinished bits all over the game.
While things will undoubtedly change before the final build I like the Titan changes. They're quite clever actually even if a bit of it is outlandish. The idea here is to even the playing field a bit. It's easier for a pilot to make progress on a Titan when the enemy team is full of them. In T1 it could be too hard for a pilot to kill a Titan when facing a decent team of them. With shields it's hard to make progress. In the current setup pilots can whittle down the health of a Titan and they can't heal as long as your team doesn't drop Titans for them too steal batteries from. There is more depth to the current setup but it's being lost by people complaining about how it isn't T1.
While things will undoubtedly change before the final build I like the Titan changes. They're quite clever actually even if a bit of it is outlandish. The idea here is to even the playing field a bit. It's easier for a pilot to make progress on a Titan when the enemy team is full of them. In T1 it could be too hard for a pilot to kill a Titan when facing a decent team of them. With shields it's hard to make progress. In the current setup pilots can whittle down the health of a Titan and they can't heal as long as your team doesn't drop Titans for them too steal batteries from. There is more depth to the current setup but it's being lost by people complaining about how it isn't T1.
TimeEffect
Member
There is still hope:
If they somehow turn it all around, I will be in awe. Every other developer who has done this kind of misdirection has stubbornly ignored their community and dragged the game into launch
This would be a first as far as I know
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I play at some weird hours and the player count would be under 100 for every game mode that wasn't attrition, sometimes barely enough to fill a lobby. That's not fun. (it was a ghost on PC as well)
They can't delay it if they wanted, since they have a gamefuel promotion.
Every thing about this is the worst thing about this.
The Xtortionist
Member
Red game fuel is the tits
UltimaPooh
Member
I never played 1.
But I feel like Titans probably get taken down a bit too easily to ground troops. I think there should be other ways to get batteries besides just taking them from the opposite teams titans. Maybe have spawns for them? Or a Pilot class that creates them?
TimeEffect
Member
I really dont agree with making the hook universal because then we'll see something like sonar/cloak spammed.
As far as maneuverability goes, we just need stronger maps. Using the hook in homestead feels good because the map is just very horizontal
TheVoidDragon
Member
I tried some matches earlier and i just did not like it all, but i can't figure out why. I really enjoyed TF1 but something just did not feel right about this. Can anyone explain what's different?
The only things that i outright noticed that were different are the Titan loadouts now being specific, the lack of an attrition game mode (the replacement was terrible) and the lack of AI grunts everywhere, in combination with extremely open map design. I don't think any of those are good changes.
The only things that i outright noticed that were different are the Titan loadouts now being specific, the lack of an attrition game mode (the replacement was terrible) and the lack of AI grunts everywhere, in combination with extremely open map design. I don't think any of those are good changes.
TheAngryMonkey
Member
Exactly, I think this mechanic could be improved but overall I welcome the change.
UltimaPooh
Member
rackham
Banned
I'm sure it's been said a million times and I don't want to dogpile on respawn because they seem like good people
BUT
I'm shocked at how titanfall 1 came out, then black ops iii released copying maneuverability stuff from titanfall. Now TF2 is copying black ops iii movement pretty much completely. The slide. The shitty double jump. I mean, wtf happened??? This type of stuff says to me that they had NO CONFIDENCE in their own product. Remember when EA was asked why bf1 and tf2 were releasing so close to each other and they said it was for different audiences? The way the game feels and plays tells a different story.
BUT
I'm shocked at how titanfall 1 came out, then black ops iii released copying maneuverability stuff from titanfall. Now TF2 is copying black ops iii movement pretty much completely. The slide. The shitty double jump. I mean, wtf happened??? This type of stuff says to me that they had NO CONFIDENCE in their own product. Remember when EA was asked why bf1 and tf2 were releasing so close to each other and they said it was for different audiences? The way the game feels and plays tells a different story.
CollectedDust
Member
Agreed
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
You know what?
Scrap 2 and release a patch for 1 that adds sliding and then sell the campaign from 2 as DLC for 1 for $40.
I'll buy it
TimeEffect
Member
Which titan ate u using? The second one is a tank. The first one is paper lol
The Freeman
Member
The double jump was in TF1, to be fair
Complicated
Banned
This clip looks like Call of Duty though. He's slowly wall running on two walls before landing on the ground and shooting things because there's nowhere else to wall run. No rooftops, no ziplines, no buildings to launch off of.
Most of my clips are gone, forgot to save them I guess, this is the one I found that could be representative. Just check the TTK due to mobility. I'd have died at least 2 times in R2.
Would buy. No kidding.
Diablohead
Member
Titan's weapons in the first game felt stronger against other titans then players but not to this level, IMO the balance is more tipped.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I wasn't joking either. Titanfall 1 was basically perfect. Just needed slide and a campaign.
SmartWaffles
Member
Yeah the only thing I miss from 2 is the slide.
It's a build from June.
Man, this is a bummer. Basically echoing a lot of the concerns people have already noted in here. I was hoping TitanFall 2 would be the same killer multiplayer improved with a potentially great single player component. Now my hopes are that the SP is good cause I doubt they can turn this MP around in two months.
Can't believe they've messed up the fluid movement, level design and Titan integration this badly.
Can't believe they've messed up the fluid movement, level design and Titan integration this badly.
I stated in this thread before, but the slide is really the best kind of slide I've seen in an FPS. Length, speed, the gun stance. It's beautiful, stuff like these are what I expected from a sequel made by Respawn. Going back to 1, I kept hitting crouch when seeing an enemy.
rackham
Banned
..I'm taking about the how shit the double jump has become. It's pretty much copied exactly from black ops iii
LapinAgile
Member
But it wasn't possible in COD when Titanfall released. So.... still plays like Titanfall. COD is the mimic here.
Elaborate
What do you mean by "posts like these"
So....?
If CoD can do it now, what makes Titanfall 2 special if it fucks over the core aspects that made sure CoD could never be Titanfall?