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VGleaks: Orbis Unveiled! [Updated]
- Thread starter ekim
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3.5GB is 3584MB though. Both are the same amount, just written using different orders of magnitude.
bigboss370
Member
you act as if its so easy lol. I'm sure Sony would launch in EU first if they could, but the fact of the matter is that the EU region consists of many different countries and therefore many different policies, languages, regulations, etc. whereas NA is much faster/easier to launch in.
Even for being a developer... That's just a ridiculous blanket statement when describing the power difference between Cube and Xbox.
But hey, it's Hyperbole. And you're not alone in this thread.
That goes for both sides.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Enjoy your Xbox, lol. If you're so concerned about getting a console first maybe a some one from Europe should make one. Until then you're always going to be last.
Yeah. I'm American, by the way. I'm speaking from a business perspective, not whining about my poor fate.
Have you heard what a PS Eye mic sounds like on PSN now?
DidntKnowJack
Member
But will it include rumble?
(I have no idea what any of these specs mean.)
(I have no idea what any of these specs mean.)
No leaked or rumoured specs have shown any form of hardware BC.
It's looking highly likely that the PS4 will not have BC. Unless there is a separate hardware add-on (as per the Sony patent from a year or so ago).
Same here. Just speaking from a business perspective.
Complete rumor and conjecture. We have no idea if BC will be in but all signs are pointing to no right now.
Chuck Norris
Banned
You'd imagine the final dev kits would have all the right bits in, but early 'target' dev kits wouldn't.
I'd also imagine that if the PS4 was to include a Cell for BC, it wouldn't just sit there idle when running PS4 code, but would be used for co-processing something or other. So would need to be in the final dev kits.
Maybe the 4 extra compute CUs will allow for Cell emulation. I don't know if that's even possible though.
He jumps out and high-fives the main character of the game you're playing, while a nuke goes off behind them and a quick loud metal riff plays. Then he jumps offscreen and your character seamlessly resumes gameplay.
I don't think they will. When we first heard of the extra compute module it seemed like that may have been Cell related which gave me some hope for BC but this leak has shot that down.
These also aren't dev kit specs, these are the target final specs for the console itself. If there was any hardware BC it would probably be here.
My initial post was obviously laced with sarcasm. But that generation, porting PS2/GC -> XBox was significantly easier than PS2<->GC let alone XBox->PS2/GC.Reiko said:
And there were specific cases of XBox ports getting "free" upgrades in resolution and/or framerate, which might have been more common if the platform wasn't a market-failure.
Clear
Not in my experience. Picks up background noise depending on distance.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
PS4 just needs a means to interface with supposed BC add-on. Devs don't need to know shit about it. Would they even be privy to that kind of info unrelated to their development contracts? Haven't heard any of the Sony source users here mention it at all other than no BC inside PS4.
As far as the mic array goes, I used it recently while playing borderlands with a friend who also had one. We heard each other fine. We could tell we were 'in a room' but it by no means made us harder to hear. A next gen eye with a better array and software acceleration could make it all a non issue.
Right now all I'm concerned with is the controller, console chassis design, release window, and what developer support is looking like.
As far as the mic array goes, I used it recently while playing borderlands with a friend who also had one. We heard each other fine. We could tell we were 'in a room' but it by no means made us harder to hear. A next gen eye with a better array and software acceleration could make it all a non issue.
Right now all I'm concerned with is the controller, console chassis design, release window, and what developer support is looking like.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Nah dude he is right... some games just shove the chat sounds in your ears if you do or dont have a mic... I hate hearing some fools chatting away while I m playing. Had to mute every single person in ssf4 or cod... a real pain!
Truespeed
Member
He used Internet time.
& when was this? & how did you know it was a PS-Eye?
Sony updated the FW so people couldn't take the PS-Eye mic volume up passed 3.
& I've played against people using the PS-Eye as a mic & had no problems & no one has complained when I'm using the PS-Eye.
George Claw M.D.
Member
So...
POWERFUL / VERSATILE
INFANTILE
Can some knowledgeable person attribute each console to one of these superheroes?
POWERFUL / VERSATILE
INFANTILE
Can some knowledgeable person attribute each console to one of these superheroes?
Chuck Norris
Banned
Don't care if it's first, I don't want to wait 4 months. A week or two gap is fine.
Quite sure it will be included in the cost.
OS, Audio, security, etc. Why not use it? Frees up CPU resources for the games, right? At least that's how I picture it.
RE: Backwards Compatibility.
If you took a high end PC from when the PS3 was released and the current PCSX2 emulator, what would the results be like? Could you play PS2 games at their original resolution and frame rate?
The PS3 manages near perfect software emulation of PS2 games. Didn't PS2 emulation on PCs only really start coming into its own in the past few years with the i7 and (compared to the PS3) high end graphics cards?
If you took a high end PC from when the PS3 was released and the current PCSX2 emulator, what would the results be like? Could you play PS2 games at their original resolution and frame rate?
The PS3 manages near perfect software emulation of PS2 games. Didn't PS2 emulation on PCs only really start coming into its own in the past few years with the i7 and (compared to the PS3) high end graphics cards?
It was a while back to be honest. And I asked explicitly because all I heard was nonsense. I also had a friend on my list that used the Eye for a mic after his Bluetooth ran out of battery, but his set-up may have been unconventional.
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Never forget....
Edit:too biiiig
sure, that's what I said, my assumption was that a dedicated decompresser might be more efficient than the process being done in software running on the CPU.
Is anyone putting stock in the recent B3D discussion about how it is 18+4 and not 14+4 setup?
In a thread where some members still think 8GB is outright better than 4GB because of sheer size and care not to know of the ram type, accurate information is scarce and precious. I just posted that information chart to ensure that accuracy does not get lost in translation.
Futurusx: Quote that picture.
In a thread where some members still think 8GB is outright better than 4GB because of sheer size and care not to know of the ram type, accurate information is scarce and precious. I just posted that information chart to ensure that accuracy does not get lost in translation.
Futurusx: Quote that picture.
ChanDangle
Member
....to resize.
By then they would forget...
Then you failed spectacularly! You post made it look like you were stating that 3584MB and 3.5GB are two separate amounts, which is not the case.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
No, current belief is that it's 18 CUs, with 4 of those CUs having an extra Scalar ALU or SIMD to allow for compute purposes if the developers desire, otherwise the extra Scalar ALU or SIMD can be used to help boost the graphical performance slightly
Really? It was just a polite reminder that the multiplier is 1024 and not 1000. I guess, I will have to be more articulate and explicit next time around.
Imagine if Durango has 12+x set up for GPGPU functionality.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Sounds like the 2 systems are going to be very close in power. Good news for everyone.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
If Durango does have an extra set of shaders (400 GFlops worth) for GPGPU purposes, it could bring Durango closer to Orbis' performance.
However, from the info we currently have that doesn't seem to be the case.
Data move engines, audio/video chips, etc. have been mostly suggested.
It's a big assumption at this point that Durango has a 400+ GFLOP special sauce chip on the side somewhere.
googleplex
Member
Yes it sounds just fine. Why do you ask?
I fail to see why the specs for the Orbis would the additional CUs for its tflop count but not the durango.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
This makes no sense.
Why would you join a cross game chat with someone you dont want to talk to?
I don't even know why you would want to include one. I already have one, tons of people with phones already have a bluetooth headset, and you can walk into a store and buy a decent one for 15 bucks.
I think they should not include one, makes a slight barrier to entry for the assholes, and enthusiast gamers probably already have one anyway.
