hotnheavyload
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Should be us versus the contents of this video if anything.
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Gamespot: Why I'm not excited for Forza Motorsport 6
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Should be us versus the contents of this video if anything.
You may even be right. However, do you think that if Sony came out with an exclusive, big budget open world racer that none of the DriveClub fans declaring their dislike of open world racers would suddenly change their mind?
Or do fanboys who make insecure justifications only exist on one side of the fence for you?
Very American point of view I think. And one I strongly disagree with. Why can't there be room for both
Ugh, really?
And I completely disagree with this guy. FM5 wasn't perfect by any means but it was still pretty damn good. If 6 builds well off of that then I'll be very happy.
GeordieMark
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Dude, that video was about Forza 6, not Driveclub. Get over it!
That's his opinion. You don't have to agree, but its not worth getting salty about. This doesn't need to be another DC vs Forza thread.
Both are quite capable of co-existing peacefully,
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Yes, and it's even better than before. As soon as you beat one result, the game will offer the next rival to race against, with a higher payback. Beating four or five of them in a row can be very satisfying and net you a nice sum.
kostacurtas
Member
I just saw that video. Its only his opinion. And I don't agree with him.
He is not excited for Forza Motorsport 6 and basically every non open-world racing game... because there are not fun...
Probably his is not a fan of racing games and his is just looking for fun games. I am ok with this.
Well as a fan of racing games I like open-world racing games but I find more fun in this.
So they kept it and improved it, very good. I don't know why people want to ignore that while FH2 is open-world it doesn't feature circuit based racing.
You have been one of Forza's most persistent defenders for as long as I've been posting here though. And keep in mind that you're the one that insisted on making this about groundless accusations of "fanboy"-ism.
"You guys"?
No, I'd be arguing that the last thing the world needs is more 30fps racers in that instance most likely.
Hmm... so... are the only ones complaining about open world racing "Driveclub fans"?
First post in my heart
gaming_noob
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Who cares what those handful of users think? They're trolls and you holding some sort of grudge and bringing it up so often is sad.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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People often don't know what they're talking about, so they make presumptions.
I like Forza Motorsport, sure(which I'm not afraid of criticizing either, one of my posts criticizing it even got published on Kotaku). Not Forza Horizon. And I've never been a fan of giving Horizon the Forza name, either. I mean, it doesn't upset me, but yea, obviously to people like you, if you like Forza Motorsport, you are now a 'Forza fan' and that somehow encompasses Horizon. :/
I do like how you're trying to act like I instigated anything when your initial post was already attacking Forza Horizon fans. Come on now. lol
I meant 'track-based' racers, not 30fps racers specifically and I think you know that.
Are the only ones who prefer open wheel racers Microsoft fans?
And no, I wasn't talking about 100% of the people saying these things obviously.
travisbickle
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The video in the OP is Forza Horizon vs other driving games.
sems4arsenal
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Oh hey I suck at racing on a track with realistic physics, that means it's the genre's fault not mine.
GHG
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You're being sarcastic right? RIGHT?
Goodness, I posted before reading the thread, lol. People really can't handle opinions sometimes. Especially when those opinions have zero affect on them such as this one, which is merely a personal preference on racing games. GAF, you crazy.
No. I was serious. I enjoyed the cuts, the narration, and the reasoning behind his opinions. Higher quality production than I usually see on the internet.
No. I was serious. I enjoyed the cuts, the narration, and the reasoning behind his opinions. Higher quality production than I usually see on the internet.
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I much prefer circuits over open world myself.
Watching that vid it seemed more like he wanted a Forza Rally game than anything else.
But geez I wish ppl would respect variety in games a little bit more and not go on crusades to make every game the bloody same, I also hate the way he dresses his argument up and acts like Forza 6 is somehow wrong for not following popular trends, I'm surprised he didn't say "next gen gameplay" in that vid.
But geez I wish ppl would respect variety in games a little bit more and not go on crusades to make every game the bloody same, I also hate the way he dresses his argument up and acts like Forza 6 is somehow wrong for not following popular trends, I'm surprised he didn't say "next gen gameplay" in that vid.
TheSlySoul
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My reason is realistic racers bore me.
Some people may love them though.
Nothing wrong with it. I will wait for Horizon 3.
Some people may love them though.
Nothing wrong with it. I will wait for Horizon 3.
Khaos_Knight
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So basically he doesn't want diversity and everything should be the same.
Is this what he said though? Strawman if I ever saw one.
Anyway, isn't c0de the source of the "corridor racer" meme? Seems to be in this thread.
While I can respect his opinion I do not share his thoughts.
I'm a racing fan and I love to play some good racing games, mostly on 4 wheels. I know that like me there are many people who just love the sound of the cars, the scream coming from the engines and the sense of power when pushing the next gear in those 80's or 90's cars. This can happen in open and closed circuits and variety not only is key to me but it's also a must. Driveclub and GRID Autosport have been the two games I've been very fortunate and lucky for having the chance to play it but I still believe FORZA games offer something unique. I can't say much about Forza 5 and Horizon 2 but if I could own the Xbox One I know they would be the perfect fit when it comes to balance. For some, there is a joy in trying to pass the opponent because you know when to brake in a corner instead of making a clever use of a short-cut in a open field.
This is coming from someone who is not an expert but simply love these games and to me, variety is a must. Even if I do not have the console I can't wait to see Forza 6 and I've been watching some streams from Horizon 2 and it seems great. Storm Islands (I guess that's the name) seems amazing. I also do not make silly console wars, it's all about having fun for me. Hope Forza 6 can become a great game. They sure have a good fan base and FORZAGAF is the proof as well some great people working with them like fellow GAFfer Helios who drops in here every now and then. All of this makes the enjoyment even bigger.
I'm a racing fan and I love to play some good racing games, mostly on 4 wheels. I know that like me there are many people who just love the sound of the cars, the scream coming from the engines and the sense of power when pushing the next gear in those 80's or 90's cars. This can happen in open and closed circuits and variety not only is key to me but it's also a must. Driveclub and GRID Autosport have been the two games I've been very fortunate and lucky for having the chance to play it but I still believe FORZA games offer something unique. I can't say much about Forza 5 and Horizon 2 but if I could own the Xbox One I know they would be the perfect fit when it comes to balance. For some, there is a joy in trying to pass the opponent because you know when to brake in a corner instead of making a clever use of a short-cut in a open field.
This is coming from someone who is not an expert but simply love these games and to me, variety is a must. Even if I do not have the console I can't wait to see Forza 6 and I've been watching some streams from Horizon 2 and it seems great. Storm Islands (I guess that's the name) seems amazing. I also do not make silly console wars, it's all about having fun for me. Hope Forza 6 can become a great game. They sure have a good fan base and FORZAGAF is the proof as well some great people working with them like fellow GAFfer Helios who drops in here every now and then. All of this makes the enjoyment even bigger.
You have some brass throwing fanboy accusations around.
I'm sure some would of course, then again others just stated both can exist and the existence of one is not detrimental to the other.
So often? A post in this thread and responses to others who quoted me.
Please don't make shit up, makes you look foolish.
He didn't say it was an agenda, he said he wonders if the narrative will change for some people.
I'm going to have to agree with him to a certain extent. This whole idea that track based racing games are boring really took off when the somewhat silly Driveclub vs Horizon phase took off. People started to look at track racing in a very negative way. This wasn't just people in forums either but the gaming press (maybe they were searching for that coveted "next gen gameplay"). We had threads like this http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=907997
and even marketing campaigns like this
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=897755
This thread is an extension of that period. The guy in the gamespot video simply believed in the message of that ad. He even has clips of it in his own. open-world=freedom, zaniness=soul, track=limited, serious=boring. Now I wonder if this narrative will change back again with some more marketing.
Black Pewter
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I wouldn't be surprised if GT7 gets announced at E3 although definitely won't be slated for this year
Neue Regel
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Stop being so damn optimistic.
Neue Regel
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How come?
I haven't played Forza Horizon 2 or Forza Motorsport 5, but I have played enough racers in my time to know there is room for both types of games.
And, of course, as many in this thread have said, not everything needs to be open world/field/sandbox. Personally, I am getting tired of that approach and am becoming increasingly turned off by games who promote world size over all other important attributes.
And, of course, as many in this thread have said, not everything needs to be open world/field/sandbox. Personally, I am getting tired of that approach and am becoming increasingly turned off by games who promote world size over all other important attributes.
RadarScope1
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You're goddamn right. Gamespot should be ripped mercilessly if this guy reviews FM6. Yes, it's all about opinions, but at least put people with a passing interest in and knowledge of the genres/games on the assignments.
StriKeVillain
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I love Horizon but it doesn't have Nurburgring. So yeah, I'll pick up FM6 just for that track alone.
Fox Mulder
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I'm excited, have loved the series since the first one.
TylerDurden4321
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Next year someone at Gamespot/Eurogamer/Polygon/wherever is going to make a video that says he is not excited for Forza Horizon 3, because it's too arcadish and nobody cares about breaking rival-times of their friends when there aren't any real racing tracks and tuning the intricacies of your car doesn't have big impacts offroad.
What is the Gamespot guy trying to achieve with that opinion-piece anyway? Annualisation for Forza Horizon? More clicks from people who dislike some more serious tones in their games probably.
Thinking about it... what would be nice is more open areas like the hangar in FM (maybe 2-3 of those with one having offroad-rally elements) and 2 real race tracks in Forza Horizon 3. Maybe the festival could be based right between the race tracks.
What is the Gamespot guy trying to achieve with that opinion-piece anyway? Annualisation for Forza Horizon? More clicks from people who dislike some more serious tones in their games probably.
Thinking about it... what would be nice is more open areas like the hangar in FM (maybe 2-3 of those with one having offroad-rally elements) and 2 real race tracks in Forza Horizon 3. Maybe the festival could be based right between the race tracks.
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I think that it doesn't have as much to do with the Driveclub vs. FH2 fanboy wars (although some people have certainly latched onto it for those reasons) as it does with Forza Horizon 2 alone. For the first time we have a no-limits open-world racer that behaves on the track just as well as it does off of it. The adjusted Forza Motorsport 5 physics engine really makes a big difference, the game is simply a joy to play every step of the way. I've been playing Forza games for a few years now, and I've loved all of them, Motorsports and the first Horizon alike, but I will never forget that incredibly exhilarating feeling when I first ploughed across the field in the Forza Horizon 2 demo, with all those drivatars dancing convincingly around me. It was a moment of intoxicating euphoria, I burst into laughter because it just felt so good.
I can imagine that for many people similar moments, combined with the gloss of still fresh current gen eye candy, might have made them feel like they're truly experiencing something new, something that there's no going back from, and as you noted, the game's marketing also cleverly tapped into those feelings. I also think that they will subside once more current gen open-world and circuit racers come out, but until that happens we'll have to live with some rash and hyperbolic statements (coming from both sides, mind you, since some people obviously feel so threatened that they take their defensive behaviour a step too far).
OccamsLightsaber
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I closed the video after that BS about how hard if is to drift in DC. It's my favorite thing in DC. I wanna channel some George Carlin and rant about the pussification of game mechanics to be more accessible with people with no hand eye coordination.
Funny that the guy in the video went after DC first and not Forza 5.
Funny that the guy in the video went after DC first and not Forza 5.
I'm guessing you didn't watch the video .
That is a comically large spoiler...
I was just thinking the same thing. That thing is outrageous lol.
OccamsLightsaber
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It's the same people who always finish last and get lapped.
GribbleGrunger
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I'm not the one who brought Driveclub into this. The video did. Have you watched it? It's just another excuse to promote FH and shit on Driveclub and end then with 'but let's face it, I'll still buy Forza 6'. So bleedin' obvious.
You're both wrong.
Horizon's tracks are hardly random, most are actually very good and well designed. The cross-country tracks can be amazing.
There is also room for closed circuit racers. Neither is better than the other, that's entirey subjective.
Very American point of view I think. And one I strongly disagree with. Why can't there be room for both
What an incredibly stupid assessment of the situation, especially given the fact that the company in question is an American one...making a closed circuit racer...for the 6th damn time. *AND* they publish an open world racer. So they're an American company that quite literally acknowledges there's room for both.
trogdorddragon
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What are drivatars if not innovation?