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Next-gen consoles have reached CGI rendering in real time ?
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shiftplusone
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Yes, and ps2 is a nurbs console. We are not there, we can still spot polygons easily, iq is way worse and games are still not flawless in presentation.
Though game devs are able to mimic complex algorithms for, let's say, water or clothes physics, while of course are not there. And they can't - server farms are spending hours to render frames, games have a few milli seconds.
Though game devs are able to mimic complex algorithms for, let's say, water or clothes physics, while of course are not there. And they can't - server farms are spending hours to render frames, games have a few milli seconds.
IMO the order is above this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON26eMmzR2c
the square enix demo during the playstation meeting was CGI level and I hope someday during we wiil come close to that top of the line CGI in 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tki5y2Llyp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON26eMmzR2c
the square enix demo during the playstation meeting was CGI level and I hope someday during we wiil come close to that top of the line CGI in 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tki5y2Llyp8
ricardo_sousa11
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Having now played The Order 1886, I must say, yes ! I didnt know the PS4 would actually do this (let alone in its early life), the AA in The Order is pretty amazing, you really need to look closely to find a single jaggie, the animations are spot on, lighting is also incredible...I mean, we're there.
f@luS
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The order is the first game ever that totally match (almost) nowadays cg imho.
The game is almost perfect. its not only the absence of aliasing, the perfect textures, the crazy lightning, the insane modelling. Its all of this together
when i first booted the game, and i saw the main protagonist looking through something, the way the light is reflecting on him , as the perfect "not videogame looking" shadowing as well.... i was like it cant be real time
big props , really
looking at Gears of war , and THe order, its finally feels like a whole gen appart.
The game is almost perfect. its not only the absence of aliasing, the perfect textures, the crazy lightning, the insane modelling. Its all of this together
when i first booted the game, and i saw the main protagonist looking through something, the way the light is reflecting on him , as the perfect "not videogame looking" shadowing as well.... i was like it cant be real time
big props , really
looking at Gears of war , and THe order, its finally feels like a whole gen appart.
nelsonroyale
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Were we watching the same footage?
That is a pretty terrible comparison...
Uncharted was still a year out when we saw it. I think it will surprise people (as always). If post processing is added I imagine it will better hold up to the Order. Assets already look pretty excellent.
Mr. Nice_Guy
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As should everyone else, but hype is hype.
Chezzymann
Member
It looks good, but no game engine will match any CGI's perfect image quality and infinite draw distances. At least for the time being. So no its not very close yet.
Scorpion Soldier
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The lighting alone makes this comparison nonsensical...
Were we watching the same footage?
I think You need to take closer look at nowadays CGI.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Not quite 10 years ago, but keep in mind something like Davy Jones was 9 years ago.
wat
You can still tell it's CG. The best CG today, a lot of people can't even tell if it's a digital effect.
EroticSushi
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Were we watching the same footage?
theofficefan99
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That looks nowhere near as good as the teaser trailer. Why all the negativity towards my comparison? Admittedly not the best one, but it shows the quite humongous gap between the reveal trailer and the gameplay footage.
MilkyJoe
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That Heavy Rain casting was beautiful at the time, the monologue was really amazing.
Betta Lines
Member
It doesn't show anything.
Were we watching the same footage?
I don't know, probably.
Time of day and lighting conditions are different, but everything seems as detailed as it was on the reveal trailer. Doesn't seem to be any downgrade on geometry, texture quality or anything except the framerate.
martino
Member
looks the same to me
yes render condition on in game model still looks leagues better.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Perhaps there's something wrong with my eyes, but U4 really doesn't look that good at all to me...
Yeah, judging from the last footage, The Order is way more impressive.
Yes it does. You just don't want to see it.
what game looks better than u4 in its actual state?
Probably only The Order, but that's pretty much it.
but the way some people talk, its like there is a bunch of games out there that looks better than uncharted 4.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
After playing The Order, I'm going to say yeah....we're pretty much there, and I have a hard time believing it; yet there it is on my screen.
CyberPunked
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Ryse maybe, but definitely Star Citizen. But considering SC is PC only, there's really no surprise.
I could generally agree in the past, but then i've seen Avatar. I was like :O
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Pre-alpha? Isnt it like 3 years in making already?
Astral Dog
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Imagine how much a Toy Story 3 videogame would cost? :O
5 hours at most with linear campaign.
Astral Dog
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I can't imagine how we are discussing PS 1 on this, clearly modern games surpassed that.
I'm watching this and I'm pretty amazed at how far we've come, i remember how incredible that Onimusha 3 opening was at the time and now... well I honestly feel like The Order can stand next to this, the things that this CGi do better is animation and scale when we view the outdoor scene with the huge monster and all the NPCs, maybe some of the more complex models look better, but damn when we compare the main protagonist and the regular enemy models, the indoor environments the lighting and even the IQ- it's really comparable and shall i say it? The Order looks better in some ways.
Amazing achievement by RAD.
Pre-rendering CGI can make more things than a pretty face model. Fracture and crowd simulation, for example.
I don't see it at all a lot of the time in any of the next gen console games. U4 is the only one that gets close, but only during the "cutscenes", which to me feels a lot like playing through the last of us, where those scenes look far better than the actual gameplay. The gameplay itself looks like any other game to me
JordanN
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Agreed. Luckily, Ray Tracing is starting to enter the video game pipeline.
Edit: Wrong screenshot.
martino
Member
call me when snow look like this in a game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0kyDKu8K-k
copelandmaster
Member
nononono dude, that's not from the TC.
I rendered a sample from Octane Render to compare to the tomorrow children.
sorry about that
Edit: you even quoted me 1 pg later ITT...whoops....
OT: OP, nothing photorealistic released up until now (The Order, Agni, UC4, Dark Sorcerer) has yet to beat even The Spirits Within, and that's almost 14 years old.
Maybe next gen.
Or we have physics like this
http://a.pomf.se/qiqmgp.webm
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Btw good example of future of real-time graphics is Ryse Cinema render, from one of their trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEK2KxxkDg
This is fidelity we should get at beginning of then next console cycle, even higher, because this shares some assets with Ryse.
nelsonroyale
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Ryse doesn't I think. U4 is lacking post processing effects at the moment though, so looks a bit more vanilla, but I don't see how people can't be impressed by the visuals. IQ was great, lighting was very natural and not overdone, textures were excellent and animations were very good. The level design seems to prioritize gameplay over realism somewhat, but they were pretty expanisve and the views across the landscape look really good. I don't expect characters in SC to look as good as those in U4. A comparison between SC and U4 is non-sensical though, considering the types of games.
Wow, pretty massive difference between the Ryse render and the actual game (which still looks good obviously)
Characters in SC will use enhanced TressFX technology for all characters hair, so this automatically means that hair will be much higher quality than in U4.
And in terms of general modeling and rig fidelity, they are aiming higher than Ryse.
And why its non-sensical?
Dictator93
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I am not sure what compute shaders the Order is using beyond some GPU particles and its light culling / tile shading (forward+), but I would assume the primary reason why its art is so consistent has nothing to do with magical GPGPU technology.
CyberPunked
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SC will use Imaginarium for their motion capture. Imaginarium did the motion capture for Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and for the upcoming Star Wars, and Avengers films. So you can guarantee that the animation quality will be of a higher standard than that of U4's.
As for this, I don't see how you could come to such a conclusion.
Clarkus Darkus
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MAX PAYMENT
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How about we keep the discussion to games we can actually play.
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