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"Nothing can stop my lightsaber!"

Congratulations to DICE on managing to write dialogue even worse than George Lucas.

All the hero stuff in this footage looks janky as hell -- very much like a 3rd person camera bolted onto a game that was intended to be 1st person. It's making me appreciate the more seamless camera/control transitions with Destiny's 3rd person combat.

 

[Yurikerr]

It's hit or miss they hated Watchdogs but, loved Far Cry (4) even though they are essentially the same game in two atmospheres. They hated the Order 1886 but loved Until Dawn even though they are both similar game play types.

Other AAA games NeoGaf Likes:

Anything Zelda
MGS5
Sonic Adventure on the Dreamcast

Hahahaha

 

[Majanew]

Hate the third-person view. Jackfrags videos suck because of it.

And of course the PS4 Access video was uploaded in 30fps. Oy.

 

[Boke1879]

old battlefront was a janky game that barely came together, true, but it still was pulled together enough to say "if we threw all the heroes together in one map, what would happen?" and be able to create something truly magical out of that scenario.

cancelled BF3 was going to continue this type of thinking--there's leaked gameplay out there of this mode on a new Courscant map.

man, i'm just really depressed about this game--we got so close to what everyone wanted out of a new battlefront--more maps on more planets, hero mode in more places, space to ground and ground to space, sprawling massive maps, and upgraded visuals--and it never happened. now we're struggling to make do with the mess that's DICEfront.

DICE never promised us Battlefront 3. They stated countless times this wasn't going to be that game. Sure they could have packed in all of our dreams into the game. But we'd be probably waiting another 3+ years for that.

and personally I wouldn't call this game a mess but to each their own.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Yeah, the third person view looks strange, but I feel like it's always been that way in Battelfront. I don't think it looks nearly as bad as everyone says it does. It looks on par with the originals but with a better / newer engine, I'm fine with that. I'm just hoping it's fun and has enough content.

 

[zahran]

i want to see this game in first person come on!!!

 

[Yurikerr]

i want to see this game in first person come on!!!

Hey man, you could try to open the other links the OP posted. Here's one:

Star Wars Battlefront Beta: DROP ZONE GAMEPLAY & OVERVIEW! (BattlefrontUpdates)

 

[Psychoward]

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Everyone was so ready for a direct copy and paste of Battlefield 4 into Star Wars that when the game actually turned out to be traditional Battlefront (and thus traditional Battlefield) they can't handle it.

Are vehicles and heroes as pickups on the map traditional Battlefront? Is no space combat traditional Battlefront? Are no classes traditional Battlefront? Are only 4 planets traditional battlefront? Is no Galactic Conquest traditional Battlefront? What about no campaign? Or no prequel maps, factions, or vehicles?

The game isn't traditional Battlefront, it's a stripped-down bastardized mess.

 

[VincentMatts]

Because I don't want it rushed out with half assed animations and awful voice acting just because the new movie is launching? If they can't get the quality right they need to delay it and make sure it's right.

The excuse of "3rd person animation in a fps game is already going to be awkward" does not stand when the game has been made from day one with 3rd person in mind, it's clearly because they are rushing this out if they can't get basic animation right, look at the way Luke is moving, it looks ridiculous to be quite honest and I am not even nitpicking, it looks truly awful.

Im not sure a game deserves being delayed because of weird hero animations. Dice do consistently patch their games and for a long time, BF4 is still getting fixes to this day. And the dialogue, i can live with it. Honestly didn't even notice most of it.

And Dice games are made with 1st person in mind, not 3rd. This isnt the original battlefront team. Its Dice.

 

[jet1911]

i want to see this game in first person come on!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3A1yK0Dy0c

 

[Boke1879]

Because I don't want it rushed out with half assed animations and awful voice acting just because the new movie is launching? If they can't get the quality right they need to delay it and make sure it's right.

The excuse of "3rd person animation in a fps game is already going to be awkward" does not stand when the game has been made from day one with 3rd person in mind, it's clearly because they are rushing this out if they can't get basic animation right, look at the way Luke is moving, it looks ridiculous to be quite honest and I am not even nitpicking, it looks truly awful.

The only animations that look awkward are the 3rd person Hero lightsaber animations. That was also going to be the case. A game that's essentially an FPS is always going to have janky ass 3rd person animations. Especially when you try to throw melee combat into it.

Everything outside of that is fine. Look at the other videos. Personally the 3rd person camera isn't even that bad imo.

The movement is literally what your character is doing in the FPS mode. The 3rd person camera is just to give you another view point. They aren't going to make all new 3rd person animations just because.

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

One thing that really starts to annoy me is the HUD. It looks so ugly and confusing.

They are inviting all this "game changers" for months and nothing in that regard really changed.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

Oh man I absolutely loved the two Battlefront games and when they announced a new one was finally coming I was so damn happy. Let's just hope when we play it this week all these fears and doubts were for nothing, please be awesome. It sure looks great graphically and sounds fantastic. Even if it Does turn out to be a Battlefield MOD, that should not be the end of the world.

 

[Sharpeye]

Are vehicles and heroes as pickups on the map traditional Battlefront? Is no space combat traditional Battlefront? Are no classes traditional Battlefront? Are only 4 planets traditional battlefront? Is no Galactic Conquest traditional Battlefront? What about no campaign? Or no prequel maps, factions, or vehicles?

The game isn't traditional Battlefront, it's a stripped-down bastardized mess.

Agreed, I feel like Dice just wanted to just make a re-skinned battlefield but had to shoe horn battlefront stuff into it to please fans and even then it looks like they messed that up. I'll try out the beta but as someone who put thousands of hours into battlefront 1 and 2 this game seems to be Battlefront in name only, hopefully i'm proven wrong.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

One thing that really starts to annoy me is the HUD. It looks so ugly and confusing.

They are inviting all this "game changers" for months and nothing in that regard really changed.

It's ugly and it's too big.

 

[Mad Season]

I dunno,..... game looks boring and shallow. hope im wrong

 

[neogaffer1]

DICE never promised us Battlefront 3. They stated countless times this wasn't going to be that game. Sure they could have packed in all of our dreams into the game. But we'd be probably waiting another 3+ years for that.

and personally I wouldn't call this game a mess but to each their own.

they're giving it the battlefront name for a reason. they may caution that it's not bf3 but they're obviously trying to evoke the feeling that "it's the first real battlefront in 10-ish years! remember how fun those games were?"

also

I've been Alpha testing a few games and I can say Battlefront is a complete mess and is broken. Considering that their deadline for the game is in a few weeks and they still haven't fixed the majority of the in game problems let alone the connection problem me and other testers were having, yes it's going to be a mess. And even a day 1 patch won't fix all of them, I don't know too much outside what I played, but the game is indeed rushed and it's all because of Episode 7 releasing this December.

And in retrospect I also tested black ops 3 which even though it had many problems, it was no where as bad as Battlefront.

it's a mess in terms of marketing (nearly everybody went from MY GOD I NEED THIS DAY ONE to ehh not so sure about picking this up), it's a mess in terms of what the game offers (it doesn't offer nearly as much as the old battlefronts, everything i mentioned above, etc.) and based on the above quote, it'll be a mess bug wise.

 

[icecold1983]

about what i expected from dice sweden. at least with a jetpack you dont have to worry about getting stuck on every undulation in the terrain and having to press spacebar 500000 times before the game lets you clear it like in bf4.

 

[jet1911]

One thing that really starts to annoy me is the HUD. It looks so ugly and confusing.

They are inviting all this "game changers" for months and nothing in that regard really changed.

Yeah. There's no need for a lifebar for exemple.

 

[Boke1879]

My goodness. People saying DICE messed this game up. It's Battlefront. Take it or leave it. This is DICE's take on the game. If that's not your cup of tea then I doubt anything is going to change your mind at this point.

You have people in here saying it should be more like Battlefield and then you have people saying it's too much like Battlefield.

 

[Boke1879]

they're giving it the battlefront name for a reason. they may caution that it's not bf3 but they're obviously trying to evoke the feeling that "it's the first real battlefront in 10-ish years! remember how fun those games were?"

also



it's a mess in terms of marketing (nearly everybody went from MY GOD I NEED THIS DAY ONE to ehh not so sure about picking this up), it's a mess in terms of what the game offers (it doesn't offer nearly as much as the old battlefronts, everything i mentioned above, etc.) and based on the above quote, it'll be a mess bug wise.

You are literally basing your opinions off people from GAF and I would caution that. The marketing for this game will be insane and it'll sell a lot.

Sure the Alpha could be a mess, but it's also incomplete. After reading impressions from people in the beta you have some negative and some positive, and we're all going to play this on Thursday regardless so we'll know for sure.

That said. Everything I'm seeing. I'm loving.

 

[VincentMatts]

Agreed, I feel like Dice just wanted to just make a re-skinned battlefield but had to shoe horn battlefront stuff into it to please fans and even then it looks like they messed that up. I'll try out the beta but as someone who put thousands of hours into battlefront 1 and 2 this game seems to be Battlefront in name only, hopefully i'm proven wrong.

No you see, i feel the complete opposite. I feel like they felt like they needed to change things and make it different from Battlefield just so people didn't complain about it being BF4 with a star wars skin. Like not being able to just run to a vehicle and use it like in battlefield. Why did they even change that? That would have been even more immersive for this game. Now i have to pick up an icon on the ground and when i do im magically transported into an already flying vehicle?? How is that better than the way BF4 had it? How is that more immersive?

To me its very simple, they dumbed this game down just to play to the masses. Like heros in 3rd person, cause you have to SEE Luke with the light saber right?? If you dont see him with that lightsaber, it just isnt cool!!

To me its as if they changed things from Battlefield just to change things, not because they're good design or game-play choices.

 

[watership]

The level of jank in these videos not really pleasing me.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

It looks decent in first person, shitty in third, and I wish the latter wasn't even an option. If word of mouth isn't on point, I'll miss this, but with Halo 5 releasing this month, I can't say I'd be too broken up about it.

 

[ZeezbruhTV]

Dice needs to dig this version out of the recycle bin and use it instead =(

Seriously...so disappointing. This really isn't even battlefront.

 

[Fantomex]

Any Third Person view videos?

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

Dude gets a subscribe for choking out that t-bagger lol.

 

[Pomerlaw]

My hype is deflating fast.

 

[Berzerkiymc]

I'm seeing some places mentioning it starts today on EA Access on X-Box One.

Anyone could confirm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUIz-xA_hY

 

[Creaking]

Seems pretty basic. Very good-looking, but basic. I'll check out the beta for sure, but I don't know if I'm going to buy anymore.

 

[Boke1879]

Any Third Person view videos?

plenty

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

I'm seeing some places mentioning it starts today on EA Access on X-Box One.

Anyone could confirm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUIz-xA_hY

EA Access is not for Beta Access...

 

[bombshell]

I'm seeing some places mentioning it starts today on EA Access on X-Box One.

Anyone could confirm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUIz-xA_hY

No.

Then he goes on to say it's available for everyone on Wednesday, when it's on Thursday. LMAO what a badly researched video.

 

[UnforgivenTwin]

I'm seeing some places mentioning it starts today on EA Access on X-Box One.

Anyone could confirm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUIz-xA_hY

He said Hoth is the opening battle in ROTJ. Damn.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

It's hit or miss they hated Watchdogs but, loved Far Cry (4) even though they are essentially the same game in two atmospheres. They hated the Order 1886 but loved Until Dawn even though they are both similar game play types.

Other AAA games NeoGaf Likes:

Anything Zelda
MGS5
Sonic Adventure on the Dreamcast

Gaf loved Far Cry 4?? =/

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Are vehicles and heroes as pickups on the map traditional Battlefront? Is no space combat traditional Battlefront? Are no classes traditional Battlefront? Are only 4 planets traditional battlefront? Is no Galactic Conquest traditional Battlefront? What about no campaign? Or no prequel maps, factions, or vehicles?

The game isn't traditional Battlefront, it's a stripped-down bastardized mess.

You are making mountains out of molehills just to jump on the DICE hate bandwagon.

The original game didn't have space or a campaign. Vehicle pickups are not functionally different from having an empty vehicle sit on the map. The original game didn't have playable heroes. Classes aren't necessary. The original games didn't have maps with the level of detail and attention that the new one has. Galactic Conquest was filler. There were no campaigns in the modern sense of the word in the original games. What world do I live in that people actually liked anything about the prequels?

I can ask a bunch of inane questions too.


Look at what is in this game, not what was in a game made 11 years ago and it's sequel with 100% recycled assets. We've got multiple species, 12 maps with highly detailed textures and models, more than 6 multiplayer modes, splitscreen and online co-op, hero battles, AI battles, survival, trials (includes speeder bike races), traditional gameplay.

For how long they had and how they had to make everything from scratch, DICE is doing damn well with this game. The lack of a server browser sucks, but the game play and other features are spot on.

 

[Gordon0Freeman]

I'll try this out with the beta to come to any conclusion, but right now it's looking like one less game I gotta buy in this already packed fall

 

[Enosh]

Looks like dog poo.
DICE has fallen so far off the cliff after the garbage that was BF4 and now this.
I never thought I would say this 3-4 years ago.

but BF4 is great now :/

granted apparently DICE LA is responsible for a lot of the fixing

 

[Richard the Lionheart]

Third person view looks very wonky. Compared to sword use in Destiny (which is very fluid), hero mode looks like a catastrophe. On the positive side, drop zone, Sullist, sound design, and first person FOV (and gun detail) look amazing. Perhaps they should shelve hero mode for a couple months and restrict the rest of the gameplay to first person perspective?

 

[Richard the Lionheart]

You are making mountains out of molehills just to jump on the DICE hate bandwagon.

The original game didn't have space or a campaign. Vehicle pickups are not functionally different from having an empty vehicle sit on the map. The original game didn't have playable heroes. Classes aren't necessary. The original games didn't have maps with the level of detail and attention that the new one has. Galactic Conquest was filler. There were no campaigns in the modern sense of the word in the original games. What world do I live in that people actually liked anything about the prequels?

I can ask a bunch of inane questions too.


Look at what is in this game, not what was in a game made 11 years ago and it's sequel with 100% recycled assets. We've got multiple species, 12 maps with highly detailed textures and models, more than 6 multiplayer modes, splitscreen and online co-op, hero battles, AI battles, survival, trials (includes speeder bike races), traditional gameplay.

For how long they had and how they had to make everything from scratch, DICE is doing damn well with this game. The lack of a server browser sucks, but the game play and other features are spot on.

Exactly! The first Battlefront was barebones (and I preferred it to the second iteration). And I concur, DICE is the only company that could salvage this franchise, that should be applauded.

DICE has put a lot of detail into the maps, weapons, etc. First person looks tremendous (especially compared to the old Battlefronts!). I actual want them to remove hero mode, because it's not their forte.

 

[Insane Metal]

That looks great, omg! Can't wait to play.

 

[Sharpeye]

Its funny how people seem to not understand how some people can be upset with no prequel era. Millions of kids grew up with that era just as much grew up with the original, not to mention both Clone Wars tv shows are very much loved within the community along with the previous Battlefront games having the era. The clone wars not being included is very annoying and people need to let go of their hard on for the originals and see that there are fans of the clone wars and it's exclusion from this game is a minus not a positive.

 

[icecold1983]

but BF4 is great now :/

granted apparently DICE LA is responsible for all of the improving

fixed

 

[Plumpman]

Saber mechanics just need to be lifted from the Jedi Knight series.

...actually, we just need a new Jedi Knight game now that Star Wars is coming back.

Yeah and this time with "g_saberrealisticcombat 3" on by default.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Its funny how people seem to not understand how some people can be upset with no prequel era. Millions of kids grew up with that era just as much grew up with the original, not to mention both Clone Wars tv shows are very much loved within the community along with the previous Battlefront games having the era. The clone wars not being included is very annoying and people need to let go of their hard on for the originals and see that there are fans of the clone wars and it's exclusion from this game is a minus not a positive.

Then maybe take that up with Disney, who themselves are completely ignoring the prequels. Why wouldn't they anyway? The sequel trilogy has nothing to do with the prequels and the change in style would be confusing for new fans.

 

[Boke1879]

Its funny how people seem to not understand how some people can be upset with no prequel era. Millions of kids grew up with that era just as much grew up with the original, not to mention both Clone Wars tv shows are very much loved within the community along with the previous Battlefront games having the era. The clone wars not being included is very annoying and people need to let go of their hard on for the originals and see that there are fans of the clone wars and it's exclusion from this game is a minus not a positive.

Said it earlier in the thread. I hope some of their DLC are some prequel maps, skins and weapons and vehicles. They look good aesthetically and I think it would translate into some really fun maps

 

[Liquidsnake]

I wish this was just BF 4 within the star wars universe, I am now uncertain if I will get this.

 

[Timu]

He said Hoth is the opening battle in ROTJ. Damn.

Ha, ha, oh wow, didn't think that was possible.

 

[Sharpeye]

Then maybe take that up with Disney, who themselves are completely ignoring the prequels. Why wouldn't they anyway? The sequel trilogy has nothing to do with the prequels and the change in style would be confusing for new fans.

They literately just released Disney infinity 3 which had a bunch of prequel era content, hell Ahsoka being one of the big faces of it, not to mention Rebels Season 2 has a lot of call backs to the Clone wars. So your wrong about them ignoring it, are they putting aside for the new trilogy? Of course, but they are certainly not pretending it doesn't exist.

 

[Always-honest]

I would love to play in a detailed StarWars world.. But i don't think i like this MP gameplay much.
So if they should ever make a nice SP or co-op campaign with the same assets then i would probably be more interested.