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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]

This npd george got his predictions wrong.

Why are we trusting him again?

Hi Mikey,

I was participating in the NPD Predictions game on the NeoGAF based on personal intuition and no other factors.

If I had or expressed any sort of 'insider' knowledge for the Predictions game then it would be unfair to The NPD Group's clients who wait patiently to receive data on a certain day.
 

nib95

Banned
Damn, AC Syndicate did much worse than I thought. Unity seems to have really damaged the reputation of the franchise.

Edit: Can a mod please verify this guy? I'm dying to know if he really is legit.

Yeap, if the number is true, for an AC game and it tanked. Good. Time to shake it up Ubi.
 

Jumeira

Banned
Okay now wait one damn minute here. This 935k sales data is coming from NPD_George, the guy who joined in a couple of days ago and talks like this:

"I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'taking one to the knee,' but I would like to tell you that in the October 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales NPD Report, Ubisoft's new Console Software SKU and best-selling October 2015 title 'Assassin's Creed Syndicate,' sold 391K units."

Is NPD_George an AI construct? Heh. Surely you can't throw around that information without being verified first, right? Can bish, EvilLore or another mod confirm this guy is legit?

Is this necessary? Bish/Kev will vet him but dont post comments like this unless you have info. We dont have anything else to go on and i assume the rational GAFFER's are not taking these number as proof until we get the ok, but an indication for now.
 

jet1911

Member
Taking this at face value and adding, let's say 100-200k for digital sales the drop is massive.

It's a massive drop but Halo 5 was never going to do those numbers. Halo 4 and MCC really hurted the brand. At least 5 is quite good so they have a good foundation to continue working on. I really wonder the kind of leg the game will have, if any lol
 

Javin98

Banned
Yep Unity really hurt the IP and in some way i happy to see.
Since next gen come pubs get to patch happy .
I really hope the relatively low sales for Syndicate and the poor reception for Unity is making Ubisoft rethink their strategy for Assassin's Creed. Hopefully we won't see an AC game next year, so they can deliver a refined game in every aspect in 2017.
 
Hi Mikey,

I was participating in the NPD Predictions game on the NeoGAF based on personal intuition and no other factors.

If I had or expressed any sort of 'insider' knowledge for the Predictions game then it would be unfair to The NPD Group's clients who wait patiently to receive data on a certain day.

Gotta give this man props for his high etiquette in the matter at hand.
 

leeh

Member
Hi Mikey,

I was participating in the NPD Predictions game on the NeoGAF based on personal intuition and no other factors.

If I had or expressed any sort of 'insider' knowledge for the Predictions game then it would be unfair to The NPD Group's clients who wait patiently to receive data on a certain day.
You must be the real deal, PR everywhere.
 

Montresor

Member
Is this necessary? Bish/Kev will vet him but dont post comments like this unless you have info. We dont have anything else to go on and i assume the rational GAFFER's are not taking these number as proof until we get the ok, but an indication for now.

I just found the writing style very strange - that's all.
 
Hi Mikey,

I was participating in the NPD Predictions game on the NeoGAF based on personal intuition and no other factors.

If I had or expressed any sort of 'insider' knowledge for the Predictions game then it would be unfair to The NPD Group's clients who wait patiently to receive data on a certain day.
8 post in and he's becoming the CBOAT, nay, Ntkrnl of Sales-Age.
 

maxiell

Member
I think there is a greater lesson here about how sales devalue your product and hurt day one numbers.

If consumers know your product will be half off on Black Friday - which has been the case for Halo and Assassin's Creed every year - they're not going to put down $60 day one. They'll never make up the difference by selling it back used.

Halo numbers are a mess. Destiny really hurt them bad. Syndicate numbers are enough to change the entire franchise, too. Some really questionable decisions on where Ubisoft and Microsoft took these IPs.
 

JaggedSac

Member
And where is the 25% digital coming from? :p
Didn't read every post, so maybe I missed it.

Or is it just an assumption?

Edit:



Ah ok, estimated.

We know the low end based on the fact that Minecraft was the previously week one best selling digital game for them with 1 million sales. At $20 a pop, that makes for $20,000,000 dollars in revenue. Divide that by $70(split the diff between regular and special editions) and you get 275,000 baseline for digital sales for Halo 5. And that is if "best-selling" is referring to revenue and not actual units, of which it would mean Halo 5 sold at least 1,000,000 copies digitally, globally.

Halo 5 PR

This resulted in a spike in digital sales of Halo 5: Guardians, leading to it becoming the best-selling digital game ever in the Xbox Store for an opening week.

Minecraft PR

Bear in mind there was no retail at release.

In less than one week on the market, Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition has sold more than 1,000,000 units globally .
 

Montresor

Member
Seems like a style you'd expect when representing NPD imo.

I edited my original comment too late, but I just wanted to say this:

Oh and btw, the part you bolded (AI construct) was a reference to Halo - not malicious at all. They use the term "construct" a lot there, so that was a playful reference.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
Hi there, travisbickle. Hope you're doing well.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'taking one to the knee,' but I would like to tell you that in the October 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales NPD Report, Ubisoft's new Console Software SKU and best-selling October 2015 title 'Assassin's Creed Syndicate,' sold 391K units.

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NPD_George has made this thread glorious. Thank you.

November will be interesting with competing bundles. Hopefully everyone does well.
 

Carl

Member
Maybe we should not take these numbers seriously until Bish or some other mod confirms that George is legit? Just sayin
 

Bolivar687

Banned
You guys should just take the numbers instead of all this thinking out loud about other members.

Those numbers are serious for AC, the franchise might not be sustainable on new gen. I wonder where they'll devote all those tesources. I guess they'll just get real located to whatever they have announced on deck is most successful.
 
Can't see PS4 selling over 1m in November at all. It's not gonna jump from an initial price-cut boosted 276k to 1m+.

It seems to me this Star Wars Battlefront hype that you all keep going on about hasn't materialized.

If it doesn't hit those heady heights, what we are witnessing is the slow but inexorable marginalization of the US as a videogame market when viewed worldwide.
 

RexNovis

Banned
Hi, nib95, thanks for the positive feedback!

The best-selling title of the October 2015 U.S. Games Industry Report, Microsoft's Console Software SKU 'Halo 5: Guardians,' sold a combined total of 935K including all Bundle units.

Whoa whoa wait. 935k includes bundles?!?!? Holy shit! o_O That's absolutely terrible... Wow.
 

Deku Tree

Member
Hi Mikey,

I was participating in the NPD Predictions game on the NeoGAF based on personal intuition and no other factors.

If I had or expressed any sort of 'insider' knowledge for the Predictions game then it would be unfair to The NPD Group's clients who wait patiently to receive data on a certain day.

do you have Destiny TTK sales numbers?
 

panda-zebra

Member
"You just let the machines get on with the adding up," warned Majikthise, "and we'll take care of the eternal verities thank you very much. You want to check your legal position you do mate. Under law the Quest for Ultimate Truth is quite clearly the inalienable prerogative of your working thinkers. Any bloody machine goes and actually finds it and we're straight out of a job aren't we? I mean what's the use of our sitting up half the night arguing that there may or may not be a God if this machine only goes and gives us his bleeding phone number the next morning?"

Having said that, all hail NPD_George, lol, I was not a believer
but I'm sure I was correct that it's a ghost of NPDs past.
 

Carl

Member
If they are made up and presented like this... now that would become funny.

Aqua and Cream were always being sly about numbers. dancing around them, giving hints and trying to hide stuff. Can't see how this guy would just come in and give exact numbers and stuff
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
This month has been a nightmare for all parties involved. Halo way down, PS4 with a price drop down YoY, ACreed stumbling massively. Damn!
 
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