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Is the PS4K a threat to PC gaming?
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CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
No, absolutely not. This upgrade will cause a fractured install base. PC doesn't have that problem. You can play the games your PC can handle right now and when you upgrade or buy a new one you can bring those games with you and then play newer games with little worry. Also, as has been mentioned, you can play a lot of games "only" on PC. Like many strategy games, or simulators that you can't get on console. There are plenty of early access games and indie games only on PC as well.
I enjoy PC much more than console and this doesn't persuade me one bit to sell my PC to buy a PS4K with PSVR. Actually, console makers are constantly fracturing their install base (with PS4K this would be worse), because you have to start over every 5 years with little hope of backwards compatibility from all past machines.
I remember when N64 first came out it was said it was more powerful than the fastest PC, but it never hurt PC one bit.
I enjoy PC much more than console and this doesn't persuade me one bit to sell my PC to buy a PS4K with PSVR. Actually, console makers are constantly fracturing their install base (with PS4K this would be worse), because you have to start over every 5 years with little hope of backwards compatibility from all past machines.
I remember when N64 first came out it was said it was more powerful than the fastest PC, but it never hurt PC one bit.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
That's what I am thinking. I was reading the "confirmation" thread and decided to test my GTX 970 at 4K, already knowing performance would be poor. Attempting to play The Witcher 3 DSR'd from 4K to 1080p at the lowest settings barely gave me 30 FPS. So unless the move to 14nm along AMD's new Polaris architecture allows them to fit a GPU a good deal more powerful than a GTX 970 in an APU package this thing is not getting native 4K gaming.
Well there isn't a single "PC gaming" market. It may cause some damage to the low or mid-level market, on people who wanted to buy a PC rather than staying on consoles.
But like all the other threads on the subjects, we don't even know what this is exactly, what is Sony's strategy and when it'll release, so speculating on what impact it will have compared to PC or NX is like guessing who will be POTUS in 2028.
But like all the other threads on the subjects, we don't even know what this is exactly, what is Sony's strategy and when it'll release, so speculating on what impact it will have compared to PC or NX is like guessing who will be POTUS in 2028.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Naw.
We already see multiplatform titles (especially multiplayer shooters) thrive on console by comparison with PC. Overall the console experience continues to improve. That said, there are game types that work better on PC (eg. 4x strategy, Xcom, Total War, RTS, DOTA2, etc.) and a very dedicated core of PC gamers that will stick with the PC platform.
Also, remember that in many countries PC gaming completely dominates and consoles aren't even a factor.
Also, remember that in many countries PC gaming completely dominates and consoles aren't even a factor.
Dick Justice
Banned
You must not be familiar with recent console history. People thought devs would use the extra power over last-gen to target 60fps for their games. That has not been the case. Most of them will put emphasis on eye-candy over performance. Especially if they're going to try and achieve native 4K resolutions. The absolute top-end GPUs on the market have trouble maintaining stable framerates in recent games at 4K. Somehow, I doubt the GPU used in the PS4K will fare better.
Rinãã¨ã
Banned
This pretty much. Im glad i bought a new gaming PC for Xmas last year.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It's not a terrible argument, but modding is still a significant attractor to PC gaming.
But, having a new model every 3 years, with one version forwards compatibility and full backwards compatibility to base ps4 does detract one advantage the PC has.
But, having a new model every 3 years, with one version forwards compatibility and full backwards compatibility to base ps4 does detract one advantage the PC has.
yup
sony is emulating the worst part of PC gaming, while taking absolutely none of the great parts of it.
PC has never looked more attractive than it does now
Actually it's like not having most of the biggest advantages of console gaming (one console per gen while being at a lower price/equal playground etc.) without the benefits of PC gaming (open platform etc.).
therealbigrich
Member
As someone who just bought a rig its actually making me think why even get a console again . I keep the ps4 for the exclusives so this wont hurt that . Also if they will keep the 2 or 3 year upgrade cycle going I will buy but it would just keep me upgrading my PC
Rising_Hei
Member
Lol at people, most of you are overreacting.
Things will be as they've always been. The only thing that might change a little is the consoles' scenario, but that is.
Things will be as they've always been. The only thing that might change a little is the consoles' scenario, but that is.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
For me the opposite is true.
I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne. If the whole PS4k thing is true(not true as in it exist but more like that it will soonish hit the market) I'll regret that purchase.
Would make me think twice about investing in a console in the future. I was banking on my past experiences with Sony console which had very good exclusive support and good console lifespans.
I'm primarily on the PC so if Playstation turns into an upgrade thing makes me question why bother.
I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne. If the whole PS4k thing is true(not true as in it exist but more like that it will soonish hit the market) I'll regret that purchase.
Would make me think twice about investing in a console in the future. I was banking on my past experiences with Sony console which had very good exclusive support and good console lifespans.
I'm primarily on the PC so if Playstation turns into an upgrade thing makes me question why bother.
Don't compare AMD FLOPS to Nvidia FLOPS.
2X 7870 = ~7970 or r280x (GTX 680 or GTX770)
EDIT: PS4 GPU is ~7850-7870.
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Deleted member 325805
Unconfirmed Member
We're the same, you and I.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That makes no sense, assuming they provide forwards compatibility for at least one iteration, and the iterations are 3 years apart.
Came to say this
meanspartan
Member
No its a threat to console gaming.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Oh boy, a GAF PC thread. *munches popcorn*
I don't see malice, I just see a group of people for whom the vast, seething throng of powerful, influential PC gaming forces of the past 10 years is a white spot on a map save for "Here be dragons".
I don't see malice, I just see a group of people for whom the vast, seething throng of powerful, influential PC gaming forces of the past 10 years is a white spot on a map save for "Here be dragons".
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Why doesn't it make sense. I want my console to be just a box for exclusives.
I don't want to think about having the optimal experience there too.
It's enough for me when I do that for my PC.
But it's worth it for me on the PC because it's not only a place to game for me but also my work station.
I just have no interest in playing the cutting edge game for something that I treat as an exclusive machine.
It would make me wait to the very end of a console cycle and then get the best version to play through exclusives.
I'm usually not an early adopter(if bloodborne people still count into that group), but like I said I was banking on my past experiences with Sony, which might turn out to be a mistake. But that's my fault. There's rarely any advantages to getting things early when it comes to these machines.
The Cowboy
Member
Same here, i only just bought my PS4 and have a mid range PC, this PS4K situation is actually making me consider selling the PS4 and just going back to the PC only and upgrading it.
I moved back to consoles as i was wanting to stop the every couple of years upgrade cycle, if consoles are doing this now aswell then i may just go back to the PC (i already finished Bloodborne and well, Souls 3 is on PC
)..
Fredrik
Member
The truth.
I'm officially out of Playstation and Xbox gaming if the latest rumors about PS4K and XB1.5 are true, then I can upgrade how and when I want or just scale stuff back so I can still run new games on older hardware.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
If getting the best version mattered that much to you, then you probably already PC Game. If it was a consideration you wanted, then upgrading every 3 years and selling your old system is now an option. If you just want to upgrade every 6 years, you just skip each other release.
Other than the complications in customer education of the new setup, it has the possibility of making hardcore gamers happy by having, ultimately, less of a gap between current best graphics and console graphics.
capitalCORN
Member
But no PC game looks as goods as UC4?
EatinOlives
Member
This.
I'm looking at my PC (whose GTX 770 I should upgrade soon) and my PS4 (whose manufacturer is gonna try to sell me a souped up one pretty soon), and I see very, very little reason to go for the latter. At this point I keep the PS4 for playing the odd exclusive, so for me the only change here is that the exclusives I'm gonna play on it may possibly be gimped versions in the future after the PS4K launches and devs optimize for it instead of the vanilla PS4. I see no reason to be excited about that.
Altered Juice
Member
LOL OH SHIT!
roadrunn3r
Member
This thread is going places but it's entertaining at least.
Bolivar687
Banned
Man looking at the meltdowns in the other thread, I can't believe we even asked this question.
ViolentP
Member
Jokes. I get them.
Ricerocket
Member
PS4k is going to push more people into exploring PC option imo. Buy a new GPU and toss in your rig and get benefits in all games, not patched ones.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Huh? That's a hell of an assumption. We will have to wait to see how it's implemented to know if games will run faster and higher res without patches.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Dude are you even reading what I'm writing.
Of course I'm already a PC gamer. I stated as much my whole point is I don't want the same hassle on consoles.
I take the hassle on PC because it's not just a place to game for me but also my work space.
You pretty much explain what I've been saying. Playstation going the upgrade route would make me not buy a Playstation, cause fuck upgrading when I already do that for my PC. I would skip all the Playstation releases with maybe the exception the last one of a generation.
How do you tell me I don't make sense and then express the same thing I've been saying, srsly whaaaat.....