LordOfChaos
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The additoinal 512 MiB in memory budget is curious as they have the same 8GB main RAM - moving more of the OS to a dedicated and updated ARM chip?
I dont see why first and second party games wouldnt patch something in.
If only evolution was still working driveclub...
There won't be any Neo only games just Neo only features, effects, content etc
I'm not too happy about both Sony and MS doing this, Glad to have a PC but feel like my xbone is such a waste.
Time to find a second job motherfuckers... He's back!
Well it still is year 3 after ps4 came out. It's not exactly like early adopters just made this purchase yesterday. I get where you're coming from though. A a gamer who plays mostly on ps4, I'm kinda ready for an upgrade and used my ps4 for thousands of hours already. I'm assuming that's who Sony is targeting here.Great post and this is pretty much how I feel.
My PS4 is not a primary platform for me and I only bought few games for so far.
It's the first console I even bought close to launch. Usually I just wait a few years, but since I had some spare money I bought one. And in the past, there was usually no downside to buy early. The only changes over time are slim models or a small price cut, but no major changes to the performance. Maybe a bigger HDD but those are replaceable anyway. I don't mind not having a slim model.
But if I had know that now suddenly a better model will be released I would have waited. For me this would have been the better decision. But I never had those facts to make a proper decision. That this is happening was never announced at the time and this is something that wasn't to be expected. So I made a decision based on how past generation worked and now it turns out without any heads-up that this generation suddenly changes the 'rules'.
If Sony had been upfront about it I wouldn't be so disappointed.
They should have named the system after John Wick
and you think the mixed reaction to the iterative consoles is contained only on gaf? this is the future of the xbone and the Ps4did you know bayonetta 2 won goty here? do you know how much copy's bayonetta 2 sold? not enough to even break even. main point, common sense will tell that these extreme opinions will not effect the market.
Yeah, I'm an early adopter and I'm totally down for this upgraded version.Well it still is year 3 after ps4 came out. It's not exactly like early adopters just made this purchase yesterday. I get where you're coming from though. A a gamer who plays mostly on ps4, I'm kinda ready for an upgrade and used my ps4 for thousands of hours already. I'm assuming that's who Sony is targeting here.
and you think the mixed reaction to the iterative consoles is contained only on gaf? this is the future of the xbone and the Ps4
Or for new PlayStation owners?This.
How many devs are going to develop a "Neo" mode for their games? And it wont even boost the performance of current games?
So basically $400 for a slightly more powerful console that nobody actually might use.
This feels like the N64 Expansion Pak all over again.
Or for new PlayStation owners?
If I'm just getting Ps4 in 2017, do I want hardware that has been out for 3 years already or something more up-to-date? If I have a 4K TV in March 2017 with my tax return do I want the ps4 that's better compatible with my TV? Do I want extra features like enhanced theater mode or better media capabilities? All the while, many users can answer no to all of the above and get a regular Ps4 for an even cheaper price.
This could not be a success, or it could be a great one. I dunno...I'm just eager to see how it goes.
by enthusiastic do you mean hardcore? i spoke to a friend of mine this weekend who i would classify as casual and he doesn't take lightly to this news either. now of course he ain't the spokesman of everyone who likes to play games casually, but there definitely can be many others that think the same way.The only significant reactions so far are from the enthusiast fanbase. We won't know the reaction of the larger fanbase until after it's announced, possibly till after it's out.
If every game releases on both, I suspect most people won't really care.
from now on i'm only playing games that i download for free on the internet
Yea that seems to be the current divide. Multiple platform guys who don't use ps4 as much feel a bit slighted because it's not the traditional cycle they thought it was at time of purchase. And Ps4 only people who are like "my machine is making hella noise! I'll upgrade sure!!"Yeah, I'm an early adopter and I'm totally down for this upgraded version.
This.
How many devs are going to develop a "Neo" mode for their games? And it wont even boost the performance of current games?
So basically $400 for a slightly more powerful console that nobody actually might use.
This feels like the N64 Expansion Pak all over again.
If it's effectively a 970 in a box then it's quite an upgrade. Be interesting to see how this extra GPU grunt is actually used in third party games.
If it's effectively a 970 in a box then it's quite an upgrade. Be interesting to see how this extra GPU grunt is actually used in third party games.
So will Sony stop production of the "old" PS4 when this releases?
by enthusiastic do you mean hardcore? i spoke to a friend of mine this weekend who i would classify as casual and he doesn't take lightly to this news either. now of course he ain't the spokesman of everyone who likes to play games casually, but there definitely can be many others that think the same way.
Those Neo specs is basically what you need to run 1080p games at somewhat stable 60fps with the same graphics options than a normal PS4, I don't expect games using better graphical options than a nomal PS4 unit besides the resolution and fps.
I think some people need to understand that for games like Uncharted 4 or Horizon Zero Dawn doubling fps and with better resolution requieres lot of hardware juice its not a simple think to do.
Also if you are one of those that are very upset when your game drops framse from 30 to middle 20s, dropping from 60fps is a lot lot more noticeable.
this is the first time a console generation is going to experience an incremental upgrade. when it's fully public we can't predict how the vast majority is going to react. but judging off of everything i've seen is pretty goddamn mixed.
and you think the mixed reaction to the iterative consoles is contained only on gaf? this is the future of the xbone and the Ps4
Everything you've seen is based off a gaming forum that comprises about 0.000001% of gamers worldwide. A gaming forum where lots of people shitpost about silly crap they have no intent of following up on, such as "BRO IM DONE WITH CONSOLESZ M8".
The vast majority of the core gaming crowd will Eat. This. Up. Thing will sell like mad, as will the OG PS4 to the wider mass market with that price cut.
Artisan if you have 50 friends all react negative it would mean little. That's really not to be insulting it's just a useless metric. Also you might be presenting the news in a biased way since you yourself dislike the direction.by enthusiastic do you mean hardcore? i spoke to a friend of mine this weekend who i would classify as casual and he doesn't take lightly to this news either. now of course he ain't the spokesman of everyone who likes to play games casually, but there definitely can be many others that think the same way.
It's nowhere near 970, its slightly faster than 280x which is 50% slower.
Pretty much, or at 30 FPS with better graphics.
Again, this is NOT some super charged GTX 970, I say that and know full wlel in the following page there will be atleast 2 people parroting the same thing again...
So will Sony stop production of the "old" PS4 when this releases?
/Thread.People seem really paranoid about this. They shouldn't be.
Everything you've seen is based off a gaming forum that comprises about 0.000001% of gamers worldwide. A gaming forum where lots of people shitpost about silly crap they have no intent of following up on, such as "BRO IM DONE WITH CONSOLESZ M8".
The vast majority of the core gaming crowd will Eat. This. Up. Thing will sell like mad, as will the OG PS4 to the wider mass market with that price cut.
What are Hitman benchs at 1440p with a 970?.
Polaris 10 makes 60fps, I imagine that with high settings.
I'm not sure why the lol. It's TFlops performance is indeed in line with a 970
One thing I find interesting about Sony releasing the specs this early, it gives MS a clear target to beat. I wouldn't be surprised if they pull every string they got to best 4K specs.
So you admonish him for drawing conclusion from insufficient data points... and then you draw your own conlcusions based on even less data points.
So will Sony stop production of the "old" PS4 when this releases?
The additoinal 512 MiB in memory budget is curious as they have the same 8GB main RAM - moving more of the OS to a dedicated and updated ARM chip?
I'm not sure why the lol. It's TFlops performance is indeed in line with a 970
You can already do that now.
I don't really get the logic of some people here.
One thing I find interesting about Sony releasing the specs this early, it gives MS a clear target to beat. I wouldn't be surprised if they pull every string they got to best 4K specs.
They could, but this gen is already lost and I don't think a minor spec improvement will change anything. No one is likely to switch from PS4 to Xbox 1.5.
I'm not sure why the lol. It's TFlops performance is indeed in line with a 970
Still don't know how I feel about this. Leaning heavily towards not getting it. At least there won't be any Neo only games.
Starting in October, every PS4 game is
required to ship with both a Base Mode which will run on the currently available PS4 and a NEO Mode for use on the new console.
Nvidia and AMD flops are "different", so to speak. A 970 basically matches the 290X, so it's around 5.5 AMD tflops.
Anyone think this leak will slow the current gen PS4 sales a little? I see a few posts saying,"Welp, glad I didn't jump on the Base PS4. Will wait now". I'm sure this info will make it out to the mainstream sooner or later.
I've got to imagine Sony won't be too happy with this as they hope Uncharted 4 will drive a lot of HW sales. That number might not be as big as they thought now.