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Nah, FFXV hurt itself in its confusion. It will sell based on name alone and that's it. I can see it doing well but not for the right reasons, doubt Square would care since money is what matters in the end.
Persona 5 has the potential to do a million and possibly a bit more, but let's face it, the idea of it outselling FFXV is virtually impossible.
That was first week sales for Uncharted.
Persona 5 is on PS3 as well
The amount of crow and salt that will amass this forum if FFxv is good will be enough to fill the galaxy I swear. What are the right reasons in your eyes.Nah, FFXV hurt itself in its confusion. It will sell based on name alone and that's it. I can see it doing well but not for the right reasons, doubt Square would care since money is what matters in the end.
Director change harmed XV.
What's the source for P4G doing a million?
Also, anyone know what's the best-selling non-Nintendo, non-Dragon Quest, non-FF RPG? I feel like the number of those that have done a million is pretty small. Persona 5 doing three million would be unprecedented three times over. I think P4 and Catherine are Atlus's best-selling games in the west and they've done nowhere near that much. Let's not forget that Horizon comes out just two weeks after.
Three million is like, better-selling than every Devil May Cry game. I think that's as much as Kingdom Hearts 1, or what, Tomb Raider 2013 numbers? A typical Monster Hunter? Three million is a ridiculous number.
The amount of crow and salt that will amass this forum if FFxv is good will be enough to fill the galaxy I swear. What are the right reasons in your eyes.
Yup because Nomura announcing a game in 2006 and not having anything to show for it several years later is a lot better than Tabata taking over in 2012/2013 and getting to a point where the game can come out in 2016.Director change harmed XV.
If the game is amazing and Atlus hits all the right notes (Europe, localisation in multiple languages...) I could see 2 million sales after all is said and done.
Last time we got worldwide sales from P4G it was at 700k sales. That was late 2013. In April 2014 Atlus said it surpassed 350k copies shipped compared to 300k in October 2013.
And I think after that there was a budget version that did decently all things considered (maybe 30-40k sales?). The game has been on multiple PSN sales and still has great Word of Mouth.
It's probably between 800-900k units sold worldwide. Which is great considering is a port of a PS2 games that is being sold on a niche system.
Persona 5 should be able to surpass 1 million worldwide sales in a few months IMO. I think Sony is helping them with an anime and other stuff. Seems there is some sort of crossmedia project going on.
If the game is amazing and Atlus hits all the right notes (Europe, localisation in multiple languages...) I could see 2 million sales after all is said and done.
Can we try not to focus on the list so much? I cut off a ton of niche stuff to avoid the "no one will even buy those games" argument, its more a case that there are a lot of upcoming JRPGs and FFXV hasn't exactly been marketed well. I agree that a mass audience won't care for most other JRPGs outside of Pokemon.
The fact that anyone mentions 'Fire Emblem numbers' as a milestone nowadays blows my mind. The series has really exploded in the last few years.Persona 5 needs to hit Fire Emblem numbers before it can dream of Final Fantasy.
XV will sell or flop on its own merits. It has no trouble getting eyes on it. Brand power and Square's marketing will ensure that. Whether or not people will like what they see and play is another matter.
They don't even have a publisher for Europe yet and you expect them to localize it into multiple European languages? At this point they should just focus on getting the English version out for Europe which seems to be hard enough for them already although it will be the exact same version the US will get...
Well if we ignore the list than what's the discussion about just the marketing? Why add the list other than to say "hey these games might be alot better than ffxv and might have better marketing"Can we try not to focus on the list so much? I cut off a ton of niche stuff to avoid the "no one will even buy those games" argument, its more a case that there are a lot of upcoming JRPGs and FFXV hasn't exactly been marketed well. I agree that a mass audience won't care for most other JRPGs outside of Pokemon.
Can we try not to focus on the list so much? I cut off a ton of niche stuff to avoid the "no one will even buy those games" argument, its more a case that there are a lot of upcoming JRPGs and FFXV hasn't exactly been marketed well. I agree that a mass audience won't care for most other JRPGs outside of Pokemon.
I'm pretty certain I'll be importing the American version, not use waiting for a localisation with the prices of Play Asia.
While I kind of agree, I am also wondering whether the game would actually release in September if Nomura was still the Director. Pretty sure Square chose Tabata because they knew that he could get things done and at this point Square probably just wants to be done with this project and to move on.
Then what exactly is your argument if it isn't that JRPGs are hurting FFXV? Marketing is an entirely separate thing.
I will as well, but not every European will do that. If you want to have worldwide success you can't rely on all Europeans to import the game.
I do think other JRPGs will harm FFXV, if the competition looks better then a portion of the audience may just avoid XV, I don't think that will be the majority by any means but the my confidence in FFXV comes no where near to my confidence in I am Setsuna
FF wilalways be a hit with casuals, tons of people don't paly jRPG but play FF.
I do think other JRPGs will harm FFXV, if the competition looks better then a portion of the audience may just avoid XV, I don't think that will be the majority by any means but the my confidence in FFXV comes no where near to my confidence in I am Setsuna
It's definitely going to depend on the marketing. I guess I shouldn't be so confident in their marketing after E3, but assuming they do a pretty good job getting the word out (particularly getting a trailer around the Internet would be good considering how many people on here have been swayed to checking out the game the first time for those stylish trailers) I don't think it's that ridiculous of a milestone.
But like I said, mark it down if you want. If I'm way off I'll change my avatar to something as is custom lol.
The amount of crow and salt that will amass this forum if FFxv is good will be enough to fill the galaxy I swear. What are the right reasons in your eyes.
This forum(a large portion or the same few that enter a thread of a game they don't like whichever it is) has made it clear ffxv won't be good. There certainly will be salt regardless of how it turns outBut yeah, on topic, FFXV is a game that has been presented poorly in terms of gameplay. It'll definitely sell really well based on brand alone, mainly thanks to the west (there's a good possibility it won't go to FFXIII levels in Japan), but apart from that, hard to know how far it will go...
Are you sure you want to do an avatar bet over P5 selling 3M WW? In how much time do you think it'll do that?
What if it's remembered as another XIII?
If it's good most people won't care that much anyway. Nothing leading to a lot of salt or anything, it's not another Bayonetta 2 situation for example.
The rest are so niche, I shouldn't have to explain why they won't affect FFXV.
I think the most telling thing is that both Tales of Berseria and Persona 5 are scheduled relatively close to FFXV in Japan, but are early 2017 worldwide. The publishers themselves seem to have a sense of when to pick their battles.
I noticed that too like the moment persona got a September date I thought to myself well it's 2017 over here because they know that's suicideI think the most telling thing is that both Tales of Berseria and Persona 5 are scheduled relatively close to FFXV in Japan, but are early 2017 worldwide. The publishers themselves seem to have a sense of when to pick their battles.
I do think other JRPGs will harm FFXV, if the competition looks better then a portion of the audience may just avoid XV, I don't think that will be the majority by any means but the my confidence in FFXV comes no where near to my confidence in I am Setsuna
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Tales comes out on August 18th...that's not close to XV or Persona 5 really.
I would love to see Persona 5 pull those numbers--I'm assuming it'll probably deserve it--but I just can't see something so un-apologetically Japanese getting big sales numbers. Atlus has fans, and Persona 4 has been garnering a small but loyal fanbase for many years now, but with no aggressive marketing, it's probably destined to be a "cult hit."
Don't get me wrong, Persona 4 is one of my all-time favorite JRPGs, but outside of specialist gaming forums like this one. Very few people know about the series.
Are you sure you want to do an avatar bet over P5 selling 3M WW? In how much time do you think it'll do that?