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[Jpop]

Wow. Amazing mock up. Really good work.

But seem it like that, It gets me thinking. Both controllers need a battery each as the display. Would it have 3 micro usb? Wouldn't the batteries dies fast with a speaker for each controller?

And I'm torn about the controllers. Logically it must be thin, but, I would like some grip as the Wii U controller.

Edit: If they go with AA batteries(not likely), the controllers would have a grip.

The controllera would probably charge when connected to the NX.

Edit:

As for the above poster complaining about damage over time. There are tons of devices on the market right now with detachable parts that do not suffer from this issue. I don't know why you are trying to make it into a problem when reality has shown that it is not one.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

So whose going to announce first, Nintendo or Sony?

So they're waiting for each other to announce first?

 

[Nanashrew]

So they're waiting for each other to announce first?

Like a couple over the phone "no you first" "no you first."

 

[KingSnake]

Here's SuperMetalDave/Trev's take on the whole leak.

I don't want to give him views. How many Polaris based Nintendo super consoles is he expecting next year?

 

[Jpop]

I came up with an idea of how to implement shoulder buttons (L/R) for both configurations while mantaining symmetry and ergonomics by adding a protective rim around the unit wich would hide the buttons and obviously protect the system from falls. I would like to know your opinion about it. And man, what a ride! We are pretty much designing a system now and I am willing to bet NX it is going to end up being nothing like it.

Your mock up is sexy.

One quick thing though.

I know symmetry is great and all, but how do you feel about one side having a dead vs any buttons.

My solution to this would to have connectors on both side of the comtrols, so left hand and right hand players could easily configure it to their liking.

(I feel like it is a wiimnote style detachable rather than 2 separate controllers.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

The controllera would probably charge when connected to the NX.

Edit:

As for the above poster complaining about damage over time. There are tons of devices on the market right now with detachable parts that do not suffer from this issue. I don't know why you are trying to make it into a problem when reality has shown that it is not one.

What 1 device require 2 other seperate devices out the box? If its one controller which I personally believe fine but 2? Come on now. It is a problem.. yall not gonna be saying its a problem until somebody on gaf make a thread about it then everyone complains how shitty nintendo's customer service is. lol

Even devices like surface and HP Split that come with detachable keyboards break and have to be bought either from manufacture or in stores. Good thing they are only 1 keyboard though.

 

[Nanashrew]

I don't want to give him views. How many Polaris based Nintendo super consoles is he expecting next year?

I think he's still holding out hope for an x86. Someday people will learn that ISA's don't matter much these days.

Soon Japan will even have a new super computer using ARM

 

[jdstorm]

Slightly off topic. Not sure if this is feasible. But if porting Apps is easy enough to do onto the NX. I wonder if Nintendo would be open to making a deal with the people behind Dolphin Emulator to get it running on the NX.

Day 1 GameCube and Wii Backwards comparability would be nice, and by letting Nintendo sell older games it would make Nintendo a lot of money, and continue to pad out the launch lineup with affordable games

 

[mStudios]

Me beef on the controller. Implying both controller is one.

Features:
-Not reactangle screen
-L/R Knob (rotation)
-Screen charger/Plug to controller.

 

[Jpop]

What 1 device require 2 other seperate devices out the box? If its one controller which I personally believe fine but 2? Come on now. It is a problem.. yall not gonna be saying its a problem until somebody on gaf make a thread about it then everyone complains how shitty nintendo's customer service is. lol

Even devices like surface and HP Split that come with detachable keyboards break and have to be bought either from manufacture or in stores. Good thing they are only 1 keyboard though.

And I'm sure those "two" separate devices that it will require out of the box will come with the system. I'm also sure that if they get damaged somehow that a replacement would contain both of the controllers


I call bullshit on this, I have never had issues with my OG Surface or seen any widespread reports that it is an issue.

 

[KingSnake]

Guy is out of his fucking mind. Claims 3DS Nvidia was fake, when it was a deal that fell apart after Nvidia failed to deliver on promises. But, sure, go ahead and use that to debunk Eurogamer. I'm glad he doubled-down and said Tegra will not be used, because he just sank himself with that statement when it is officially revealed to be the case. There is no x86 Nintendo console happening. Accept it.

You rarely see a man wasting all the good will and good reputation and going all in on a fantasy like this.

 

[Leizt]

You rarely see a man wasting all the good will and good reputation and going all in on a fantasy like this.

I like him but saying that this is a "controlled leak by Nintendo" was beyond common sense... However, I do believe that we may have a second NX piece of hardware.

 

[Roo]

So like.. has LCGeek and other insiders made an statement about this compared to what they knew (said) not too long ago?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

And I'm sure those "two" separate devices that it will require out of the box will come with the system. I'm also sure that if they get damaged somehow that a replacement would contain both of the controllers


I call bullshit on this, I have never had issues with my OG Surface or seen any widespread reports that it is an issue.

I didnt say it was widespread issue.. how do yall be reading on here?

I said they break, which happens. Its a variable for the consumer. And if the device comes with 2 controllers packaged how goofy is that? You break 1, so you buy a pack now you have 3? hell lol

 

[KingSnake]

I like him but saying that this is a "controlled leak by Nintendo" was beyond common sense... However, I do believe that we may have a second NX piece of hardware.

There's no logic in launching a hybrid device (who targets both markets) and then another device (for one of the markets) in a very short period of time. It's marketing disaster waiting to happen. There could be another device launching later down the road (maybe after 2 years), but that can be anything, from a revision of the hybrid (let's say X2 instead of X1 if they don't manage it now) to a SCD dock.

But in 2017? No way. 2018? Very slim chances.

 

[Kathian]

How on earth will Nintendo run two controller peripherals that aren't built directly into the system?

I mean is there maybe a practical example outside gaming because if there's one in gaming I'd be shocked.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

The controllera would probably charge when connected to the NX.

Or the Controllers have batteries themselves to power themain device.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Or the Controllers have batteries themselves to power themain device.

So why you detaching? lol

And then how you gon use it just as a tablet with both controllers on it? Now yall seeing how funky this is.

 

[Oregano]

I didnt say it was widespread issue.. how do yall be reading on here?

I said they break, which happens. Its a variable for the consumer. And if the device comes with 2 controllers packaged how goofy is that? You break 1, so you buy a pack now you have 3? hell lol

Wiimote and Nunchuk were sold separately. I think that's what they will be modelled on.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

So why you detaching? lol

And then how you gon use it just as a tablet with both controllers on it? Now yall seeing how funky this is.

You obviously don't need to detach them if you play alone, only for dual player games or TV mode.

 

[Leizt]

There's no logic in launching a hybrid device (who targets both markets) and then another device (for one of the markets) in a very short period of time. It's marketing disaster waiting to happen. There could be another device launching later down the road (maybe after 2 years), but that can be anything, from a revision of the hybrid (let's say X2 instead of X1 if they don't manage it now) to a SCD dock.

But in 2017? No way. 2018? Very slim chances.

I agree!

A controlled leak would be a complex PR/marketing move to pull it out (and fool so many different sites) and Nintendo PR/marketing can't pull anything.

 

[KingSnake]

So why you detaching? lol

And then how you gon use it just as a tablet with both controllers on it? Now yall seeing how funky this is.

You detach them to play local 2 players MP out of the box. Most probably on the TV. This is the assumption.

You attach them to have a full handheld for single player.

The concept is not that crazy, the execution is where it can fail.

 

[PdotMichael]

The joke about the docking idea is that the NX handheld would need to come with a cooling system included which would make the handheld more expensive and heavier.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

The joke about the docking idea is that the NX handheld would need to come with a cooling system included which would make the handheld more expensive and heavier.

The dock could provide cooling.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Wiimote and Nunchuk were sold separately. I think that's what they will be modelled on.

Thats fine, but there could be 4 pairs of wii mote and nunchuck connected simutaneously. Plus you didnt need 4, you need two for this apparently.

You obviously don't need to detach them if you play alone, only for dual player games or TV mode.

I understand that but dont the article say a seperate pro like controller come with it?

You detach them to play local 2 players MP out of the box. Most probably on the TV. This is the assumption.

You attach them to have a full handheld for single player.

The concept is not that crazy, the execution is where it can fail.

I dont think the concept is crazy, I think there is too much going on. It reminds me of people who play splatook with a pro controller with wii mote rubberband on it.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

I came up with an idea of how to implement shoulder buttons (L/R) for both configurations while mantaining symmetry and ergonomics by adding a protective rim around the unit wich would hide the buttons and obviously protect the system from falls. I would like to know your opinion about it. And man, what a ride! We are pretty much designing a system now and I am willing to bet NX it is going to end up being nothing like it.

Man I want this thing.

Nintendo hurry up and announced it already!

 

[javadoze]

Amongst all these mockups, now I'm wondering about the size/form-factor.

Would it be around the size of a 3DS XL or something closer to a WiiU gamepad?

 

[TLZ]

He's been pushing this "controlled leak" nonsense on his twitter insisting that there has to be this supercharged AMD x86 console. It's hilariously sad to see him break down like this.

Him having his own opinion is breaking down now?

Guy is out of his fucking mind. Claims 3DS Nvidia was fake, when it was a deal that fell apart after Nvidia failed to deliver on promises. But, sure, go ahead and use that to debunk Eurogamer. I'm glad he doubled-down and said Tegra will not be used, because he just sank himself with that statement when it is officially revealed to be the case. There is no x86 Nintendo console happening. Accept it.

He didn't say the tegra won't be used. He said it might be used for the handheld but not the home console, which he still believes is coming.

Please report right.

 

[Jpop]

Amongst all these mockups, now I'm wondering about the size/form-factor.

Would it be around the size of a 3DS XL or something closer to a WiiU gamepad?

I imagine it'll be 3DSXL sized but with less plastic an more screen real-estate.

 

[Guerrilla]

I imagine it'll be 3DSXL sized but with less plastic an more screen real-estate.

Imagine how small the detachable controllers would have to be then. I can't imagine it being smaller than a wiiu gamepad. I don't think this will be a "pocketable" device :/

 

[KingSnake]

He didn't say the tegra won't be used. He said it might be used for the handheld but not the home console, which he still believes is coming.

Please report right.

When is the home console coming? Still PS4 Neo levels?

 

[TLZ]

He was never believable in the first place. All of his predictions were wrong, the rumor he started about the NX in 2016 was wrong, and the only legit thing he did was leak out that marketing document and that ended up being pointless to us and extremely dangerous to release.

It's still weird people took him seriously in the first place.

It wasn't a rumor. Everything he posted was right. Of course people will take him seriously after that and not other fakes. The NX was pushed back to March 2017 and we all know it. All the games plus the marketing plans being pointless to you doesn't make it wrong.

Why are you being so aggressive and hateful?

 

[Clessidor]

Thinking about the system and how it is described, I wonder how much will having two possible Wiimote style Controllers for local multiplayer in every system influence the game library of it. I mean could it cause more platform coop games and fighting games developed for it by handheld thirds and indies?

Because I could see kids visiting their friends/going to the schoolyard with the console and play one round of a Contra-style game together on one screen instead everyone sitting there playing on his smartphone side by side.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

Heres my opinion/speculation of how it'll work.

The system is the handheld. The dock is just a dock, no special thing to make it more powerful because that'd just be pointlessly adding to the cost and Nintendo doesn't really care from what I've seen. Which is fine with me. The cheaper it is, the more games I can buy at launch! Bring on that X1!

HOWEVER...I think all games will be madated for atleast 720p or 1080p on home. That is the only thing I see (540 on handheld) since I think even Nintendo knows 520 on a tv looks weird lol. No graphics/framterare upgrade since...

You literally put the screen in the dock and it powers off the screen to play on tv. The dock is just a dock, with a hdmi, power cord, and usb ports for stuff.

Its literally one system, which means the cartridge in handheld works on tv, and all digital games work on both since your connecting the handheld to dock. So no more VC cross buy whiners! Tho I do expect to pay again lol. But this time it WILL work on both which means...

Save data, activity log, and all other data works on handheld and tv since its all the same system. There is no transfering, you just dock the screen and detach the controllers and your good to go!

I am unsure if the two parts make one controller, or two seperate controller. It seems like its two, which like wiimotes with WiiU, suggests fewer buttons for multiplayer. If so I expect an additional part that acts like the handheld but with no screen to work as a connect to both sides for a controller. That may be sold seperately, since both parts can do that anywayz like a Wiimote/nunchuck. This also means you can play touch screen only games without the parts. In addition, you could connect one controller part for vertical games.

I've seen some terrible ideas in this thread, eapecially as I don't really care about graphics at all, but the most dumb is the idea that theres not going to be a touch screen. Seriously, wth is the matter with you? Nintendo would never drop it, and it would turn off casuals...and seriously no touch screen?

Now now, I know what your thinking "but that would mean some games aren't 100% compatible with TV!" NOPE! Try again! Because I am pretty confident I figured out how Nintendo planned this part out, and thats the IR sensor from WiiMotes built into controller parts, which can simulate a touch screen perfectly. The sensor bar could also be built into the dock. And this means Wii VC too for both since you could use touchscreens as pointer controls.

And I saw people suggesting no D-Pad. Seriously stahp.

 

[duckroll]

HOWEVER...I think all games will be madated for atleast 720p or 1080p on home. That is the only thing I see (540 on handheld) since I think even Nintendo knows 520 on a tv looks weird lol. No graphics/framterare upgrade since...

That doesn't make any sense. Why would there be a different resolution at all? Phone screens go up to 4K now.

 

[TLZ]

There's no logic in launching a hybrid device (who targets both markets) and then another device (for one of the markets) in a very short period of time. It's marketing disaster waiting to happen. There could be another device launching later down the road (maybe after 2 years), but that can be anything, from a revision of the hybrid (let's say X2 instead of X1 if they don't manage it now) to a SCD dock.

But in 2017? No way. 2018? Very slim chances.

At this point, this is just a handheld with a tv out. It isn't a hybrid. The rest is all speculation.

When is the home console coming? Still PS4 Neo levels?

No one knows anything yet.

 

[Branduil]

That doesn't make any sense. Why would there be a different resolution at all? Phone screens go up to 4K now.

Well, if they unlock the Tegra while the NX is docked, it will be capable of higher resolutions when used as a home console.

 

[KingSnake]

At this point, this is just a handheld with a tv out. It isn't a hybrid. The rest is all speculation.

It doesn't matter if it fits your personal definition or not, it obviously tries to target both markets.

No one knows anything yet.

I thought your lovely Trev knows everything and has the best sources. Better than Eurogamer, IGN, Kotaku, MCV and WSJ together.

 

[Neoxon]

That doesn't make any sense. Why would there be a different resolution at all? Phone screens go up to 4K now.

This is a dedicated game system, not a smartphone. And those big resolutions take up battery power & horsepower. By going at 540p, it can go above the Wii U's visual fidelity.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

That doesn't make any sense. Why would there be a different resolution at all? Phone screens go up to 4K now.

Because I don't see Nintendo going for a screen above 540p, maybe 720p, since that'd be a battery drainer, and shoot prices even higher. I'd imagine it would be atleast 720p when docked since 540p would just look blurry, or atleast I assume that it would like Wii does on HDTVs. But I really don't know that much about resolutions.

 

[KingSnake]

That doesn't make any sense. Why would there be a different resolution at all? Phone screens go up to 4K now.

For better battery life. If it would render at 1080p as portable the power draw would be too big for a decent batery life. The same with playing games on the phones with screens up to 4k.

 

[ArtHands]

I have seen someone posted a comparison of Tegra X1 with PS4. Is that an accurate representation of how we'll be expecting to see NX games?

NVIDIA Tegra X1 Mobile Superchip Demo & Conference (CES 2015)

PS4 Elemental Unreal Engine 4 demo

If you are telling me that NX can deliver something like the first gif while on the go, I think I am ok with that

 

[legend166]

Imagine how small the detachable controllers would have to be then. I can't imagine it being smaller than a wiiu gamepad. I don't think this will be a "pocketable" device :/

I get the desire for the device to have a small form factor and I agree, but no one is putting a handheld in their pocket any more. Heck, I'm surprised that anyone ever did. The only one small enough was the GBA Micro.

 

[brainchild]

I have seen someone posted a comparison of Tegra X1 with PS4. Is that an accurate representation of how we'll be expecting to see NX games?

NVIDIA Tegra X1 Mobile Superchip Demo & Conference (CES 2015)

PS4 Elemental Unreal Engine 4 demo

If you are telling me that NX can deliver something like the first gif while on the go, I think I am ok with that

At the very least, that demo was coded for that specific chip. Most of these other comparisons are irrelevant because they're just standard Android ports.

I think you could make tailor made ports of ps4/XBO games, but that would require extra work that devs may not be inclined to do.

 

[SpokkX]

Here's SuperMetalDave/Trev's take on the whole leak.

Ooook. Expected an analysis, got tin foil hats

That is one person i will never listen to again

 

[Dark Cloud]

I don't understand how people can complain about "graphics" for the NX not being like the PS4 when we're talking about a handheld doing such great graphics like we believe it will already do.

 

[KingSnake]

If you are telling me that NX can deliver something like the first gif while on the go, I think I am ok with that

Not on the go, unless it has active cooling. And if it has active cooling it will be quite bulky.

 

[Neoxon]

Ooook. Expected an analysis, got tin foil hats

That is one person i will never listen to again

What if I told you that this was the same guy who leaked the entire Wii U/3DS schedule for 2016 (at least as of early this year before Zelda got pushed back).

 

[Dark Cloud]

What if I told you that this was the same guy who leaked the entire Wii U/3DS schedule for 2016 (at least as of early this year before Zelda got pushed back).

So? Is he supposed to know everything now? He was able to get a contact for that info. Now he's using his "power" to make people think he knows things when he doesn't know. He's just mad because he doesn't want a handheld and wants a "powerful console".

 

[KingSnake]

What if I told you that this was the same guy who leaked the entire Wii U/3DS schedule for 2016 (at least as of early this year before Zelda got pushed back).

Yes the same guy who got a good source and blow it because he wouldn't listen to anybody telling him to be careful what he posts and instead posted the marketing costs that were in no way relevant for the leak. That well reasoned guy, yes.