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Suicide Squad's box office business plunges just like Batman v Superman's did
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"Suicide Squad is so bad it made my GF sick" MrToughPants- 2016
This is the core of the problem. People talk about executives meddling with Ayer and Snyder's visions (and they're justified in doing so) but the bigger issue seems to be that Warner and their film-makers are not on the same page at the start of production and then they have to cut everything down and re-edit it.
If the executives had had a clue they would have worked out early on that Batman v Superman did not need to be three hours long (it barely warranted being two-and-a-half hours long, frankly), and that they were going to alienate the child audience they needed to make the film profitable; or that Ayer's vision for Suicide Squad was too dark for the PG-13 blockbuster they wanted, a problem which was compounded by the decision to hire a marketing team who were not on the same page as the director to cut the trailers and then for some bizarre reason hiring them to help re-edit the film.
It's very simple to boil it down to "producers versus directors" but it's more that the two need to work in harmony. Directors on their own have plenty of terrible ideas. Warner keep hiring directors, letting them shoot a film, then realising that they're not going to work out. Much like with Thor 2, another film where this happened, the results are never going to be above "alright".
Langdon Alger
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So this huge drop off in box office performance is actually pretty close to normal.
Well I never seen this coming... Oh wait.
All the people shouting 'fuck the critics' when the first week box office was strong off the admittedly good advertising. Very premature, it's reviews and word of mouth that tanks these things.
I'm curious in what ways this'll cause WB execs to go panic mode and interfere with Wonder Woman? People complained about the lack of Leto's Joker? Give him 39 minutes of screen time in Wonder Woman.
All the people shouting 'fuck the critics' when the first week box office was strong off the admittedly good advertising. Very premature, it's reviews and word of mouth that tanks these things.
I'm curious in what ways this'll cause WB execs to go panic mode and interfere with Wonder Woman? People complained about the lack of Leto's Joker? Give him 39 minutes of screen time in Wonder Woman.
YesNOnoNOYes
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so.... was SS then made for the real people fans or not
now?
now?
Escape Goat
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Patty says this is a good thing. SS was great. I mean GREAT!!
The gap between GotG's -67.5% and Squad's -79.4% is massive
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Most drops are big but 80 means the film has Barbra Gordon legs.
Discotheque
Banned
and this piece of crap is outpacing guardians by almost 50 million domestic in the same time frame. but some people will downplay that by saying of course it should be since the joker is in it or some shit.
lets face it, despite the shite reviews this movie can't not be called a success at the moment. unless it just plummets off a cliff very soon.
edit: nv/m about that former sentence. that huge gap is mostly because of opening weekend difference lmao.
Second week drops are normal. 40-60% second week drops are considered normal but 60% drops is on the extreme side and can indicate weak future viewing. 80% is very bad.
DragonSworne
Banned
It's sad that these two terrible movies are going to finally compound and unfairly affect the WW movie which actually looks good.
Goddamn this Barbara Gordon Legs shit IS the killing joke!
YesNOnoNOYes
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wonderwoman will be amazing
Yeah just like the Suicide Squad Queen trailer did
The sad thing is at this point I feel obligated to say "Yeah, but we said that about Suicide Squad..."
Davey Cakes
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If Warner goes into panic mode with WW and JL, those movies will be equally bad.
They need to learn something.
They need to learn something.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Black Republican
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i still need to watch this, im sure its not that bad
Wonder Woman will save DC
broncobuster
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This Current DC fella isn't the DoP on the three connected films, though. And that crummy tumblr gif has the contrast blown out. Disservice to how gorgeous The Dark Knight actually looks.
ThoseDeafMutes
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It really isn't.
Discotheque
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Pfister aint been doing shit since Transcendence. I think WB should throw him on one of these projects since Nolan doesn't want him anymore. Dude did great work on the batman trilogy and inception.
Fong did good for BvS though. Looks much better than Man of Steel and SS.
Ah, gotcha, misread what he meant. Still, I'm willing to bet this weekend drop will be substantially larger than Civil War's. DC's movies have no legs at all. At some point they really need to make something that someone will tell their friends to go see.
While she's being portrayed by Gal Gadot? I doubt it.
We are talking friday to friday
Civil war dropped 74 percent
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=marvel2016.htm
compared to Suicide Squd 79
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=dc2016.htm
This thing is going to drop even further next week, its once thing to have huge drops like this its another if it doesn't have long legs or repeated viewings.
Messofanego
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YesNOnoNOYes
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79.5%
ThoseDeafMutes
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Basically Civil War had a 74% Friday-to-Friday drop, but only a 59% Weekend-to-Weekend drop.
In comparison, BvS had an 81% F-F, and a 69% W-W.
I'm having a hard time putting it into words without it sounding confusing, but basically Civil War's 2nd Friday was not quite as representative of it's second weekend performance overall as BvS's was, although in both cases the second Friday suffered much more than the Weekend did.
Civil War also opened quite a bit higher than Suicide Squad, though.
broncobuster
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Holy fuck Avengers dropped more on its friday to friday than Suicide squad
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=avengers2.htm
And yet i didnt hear anything on GAF about it
So its no longer about Percentages, but how much money each movie made?
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=avengers2.htm
And yet i didnt hear anything on GAF about it
So its no longer about Percentages, but how much money each movie made?
Yay, and then the cycle of "it's a bomb" "Thor 2 is shit" "executive meddling is bad" "APU full of executive meddling" "reboot pls" can go on and on for fifty more pages.
Like the fact there's people calling for a reboot after an SS film has made 300 million plus in less than two weeks is genuinely amazing.
Discotheque
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lmaooo. dear god his career just plummeted after TDKR huh.
Devilgunman
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The curse of Bat-Fleck shall be forever.
Youch. His career dropped off a cliff after transcendence. A real shame as he knows how to compose the hell out of a shot.
Where is the "good movie" option?
Memorial day. Plus it's age of Ultron, not Avengers.
And you heard plenty about it on gaf, you just chose to ignore it.
ArkhamFantasy
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If Affleck is directing the Batman movie i have confidence it will be good.
Does DC even have the same reach as Marvel? All I remember of DC as a kid was Batman and Superman. Batman being the most popular of all superhero across Marvel/DC.
I know the movies are bad, but for me, DC character never had the same draw apart from the 2 mentioned. I can name and get excited with lots of Marvel characters though, much of this is to do with awesome cartoons as a kid.
I know the movies are bad, but for me, DC character never had the same draw apart from the 2 mentioned. I can name and get excited with lots of Marvel characters though, much of this is to do with awesome cartoons as a kid.
Unless I'm reading this wrong didn't Age of Ultron drop ~75% vs Suicide Squad dropping 79%?
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