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[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

What if the screen is 3D?

Does anybody cares about 3d? VR is next till it fades away and people realize it's a gimmick

 

[Alebrije]

The lack of news,leaks or rumors has left us with just price speculation and 10k stuff

 

[Bronetta]

Dies anybody cares about 3d? VR is next

Next as in the next big thing no one will care about?

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Next as in the next big thing no one will care about?

Just edit it I wasn't done writing

 

[L Thammy]

Nintendo's been collecting plenty of data about whether or not people were playing 3DS games in 3D mode. I don't think they're going to want to spend money on that feature in the near future.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

If they're trying to sell a handheld at that base price they're insane. That price seems highly unlikely given what we have heard about the target audience.

I agree, but New 3DS XL is still $200 and the price cut leaks seemed to have only applied to 2DS and New 3DS so I don't really see both 3DS XL and NX being $200.

Bracing myself for $250. If its above that then no chance of getting it day one. I do hope its $200 but just don't see it.

 

[James Scott]

It's gotta be $199.99 without a game or $249.99 with a pack in game, since Nintendo want this to be affordable and not repeat the mistake the 3DS had. And Wii U.

That is almost impulse buy territory if they nail the hardware and software for it at launch and beyond.

$179.99 they could fly off the shelves. No expensive 3D screen this time, so just maybe ... but wishful thinking.

Games priced at $50, half way point between standard handheld games and console games prices. Harder pill to swallow if the games are full $60, which they might very well be at launch, and because of cart costs.

That's my reasoning.

If Nintendo can manage a pack in game as appealing as Wii Sports was, and the above price points, they are onto a potentially big thing.

$180 maybe a year or two down the line depending on th sales. Can't see it launching at that.
Completely agree with the $50 price for software. Games will cost considerably less to make than on ps4 and the price should reflect it just like on Wii...I wonder if they'll do that at launch, can't imagine they want to do that to BoTW, but I think it's wise.

 

[Discomurf]

Just listened to the new episode of NVC, and at the end of episode Jose Otero announced that he's going on vacation - and I could swear, and maybe this is (probably) just paranoia - but it sounded as if Jose, Peer and Brian were all acting like they know SOMEthing and were choosing their words very carefully discussing NX...

Not sure what sense it makes... but I have a feeling Jose knows what's up.

Agree, I listened and they know something, they sounded giddy. They were just at the Apple event and talked to Miyamoto... I noticed a few media outlets (including IGN) got to interview Miyamoto about Super Mario Run and no one asked any NX questions at all? C'mon, its all happening soon and my guess its going to be a video event next week. Jose telling Peer and Brian to "compile all the data that the is out in the world next week to determine what NX is", etc.

Very soon people, believe. Get your 'there it is' gifs ready.


EDIT: link to the podcast - (start listening after the 45 min mark and determine for yourself)

 

[Malus]

Completely agree with the $50 price for software. Games will cost considerably less to make than on ps4 and the price should reflect it just like on Wii...I wonder if they'll do that at launch, can't imagine they want to do that to BoTW, but I think it's wise.

Wasn't this already the case with Wii U? Has it gotten cheaper? I dunno I fully expect $60 standard with the occasional $40-50 title.

 

[Sadist]

Hey guys I've got September off too.

Call me Nintendo xoxo

Serious post; Whatever happens with third party games on NX, I really hope Nintendo will still try to get games like Ace Attorney. Playing AA Spirit of Justice right now... I really hope we'll get to see new games in the series on NX, not just mobile or tablets.

Edit: I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to ask reporters not to discuss NX during the Super Mario Run hands-on.

 

[Kinsei]

Hey guys I've got September off too.

Call me Nintendo xoxo

Serious post; Whatever happens with third party games on NX, I really hope Nintendo will still try to get games like Ace Attorney. Playing AA Spirit of Justice right now... I really hope we'll get to see new games in the series on NX, not just mobile or tablets.

If there's one third party I don;t think we have to worry about leaving Nintendo behind it's Capcom. They seem to have a really good relationship. Epona is even in the new Monster Hunter!

 

[Nanashrew]

I expect the full gamut of prices from small to AAA $60 pricing as they do right now. Just now on a single system.

 

[10k]

Saw th 10k rumor, bit disappointed he regressed.
A portable unit and a home console unit would still fall under the Eurogamer rumor if the NX hybrid plugs into a dock.
A portable unit as an option to a dedicated home console doesn't sound like something Nintendo would do. It's the Wii U gamepad mixed with Vita's streaming capabilities and it doesn't sound too appealing.
Unless he's missing more info that's less unique than the hybrid concept and more like Wii U (something Polaris Truthers have been saying would discredit EuroGamer's post)
Don't see it happening, if the source is actually trustworthy I'm pretty sure either 10k misinterpreted or the source is confused

I regressed?

Was I in rehab lol?

Look, all the source said was Nintendo's focus on was the home console right now and that what's going to be revealed soon is the home console. They werent very specific to avoid breaking NDA but there's some kind of portable aspect to this device but it wasn't specified.

And it's just one source vs the many saying hybrid so don't put much stock into it.

 

[James Scott]

Wasn't this already the case with Wii U? Has it gotten cheaper? I dunno I fully expect $60 standard with the occasional $40-50 title.

3D World, MK8, Smash, and other big titles were $60 while smaller titles like Captain toad and DK were like $50-40.
When Wii U came out the standard was still PS360 at $60, it's been 4 years since then

 

[Skittzo0413]

As far as we know so far the NX has no super expensive features which both the Wii U and 3DS had at launch, with the brand new proprietary streaming tech and the brand new stereoscopic screen tech. Therefore it should cost Nintendo much less to manufacture, and looking at similar devices with similar chip sets (Shields) I think $200 is a pretty reasonable price.

It really doesn't matter what the Wii U and 3DS are currently priced at, since those prices in no way reflect manufacturing costs, especially compared to newer parts with newer manufacturing processes which actually could be cheaper than old processes (like that for the Wii U chips) since fewer companies are capable of manufacturing those old chips.

I'm honestly expecting $200 with a pack in Wii Sports style system demo game, and maybe a $250 Zelda bundle.

 

[Malus]

3D World, MK8, Smash, and other big titles were $60 while smaller titles like Captain toad and DK were like $50-40.
When Wii U came out the standard was still PS360 at $60, it's been 4 years since then

Yeah I know all that. I'm still kinda surprised DK was priced at $50 but it doesn't exactly look big budget I guess. Content-wise its well worth it and you'd think Retro of all studios would get to make a bigger budget game.

Nontheless, I'd be pleasantly suprised to see them price games at a maximum of $50. I think they'll charge what they believe they can get away with and people are used to $60 now.

 

[Babymario26]

I regressed?

Was I in rehab lol?

Look, all the source said was Nintendo's focus on was the home console right now and that what's going to be revealed soon is the home console. They werent very specific to avoid breaking NDA but there's some kind of portable aspect to this device but it wasn't specified.

And it's just one source vs the many saying hybrid so don't put much stock into it.

if it makes you feel any better i have a high hope for a console, so i have faith in your rumor. I mean either way w/e it is im still going to buy it so eh.

 

[Nanashrew]

3D World, MK8, Smash, and other big titles were $60 while smaller titles like Captain toad and DK were like $50-40.
When Wii U came out the standard was still PS360 at $60, it's been 4 years since then

I can see major Mario and Zelda titles being $60 while spin-offs and side games being lower priced and handled by different teams/studios. Smash and Mario Kart would likely remain at $60 too as they would only need one for years with additional content added over time until the next game.

I can easily see Animal Crossing and Kirby staying around $40. I dunno where Fire Emblem will land with its recent popularity but I could also see it staying around $40. It depends on their budgeting and where they want to take the Fire Emblem series.

Donkey Kong? I dunno tbh.

Mario & Luigi could stay around mid-tier budget pricing as well at $40.

I think a lot of their handheld only titles and spin-offs will keep the same model.

 

[OCD Guy]

Every day I wake up hoping to find some sort of leak or new information on the NX.

I honestly can't wait to have the official announcement, hardware reveal and countless videos on launch games and upcoming games.

I don't care what it is, or what gimmick it has, I just want some shiny new Nintendo hardware with some great games as usual.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Agree, I listened and they know something, they sounded giddy. They were just at the Apple event and talked to Miyamoto... I noticed a few media outlets (including IGN) got to interview Miyamoto about Super Mario Run and no one asked any NX questions at all? C'mon, its all happening soon and my guess its going to be a video event next week. Jose telling Peer and Brian to "compile all the data that the is out in the world next week to determine what NX is", etc.

Very soon people, believe. Get your 'there it is' gifs ready.


EDIT: link to the podcast - (start listening after the 45 min mark and determine for yourself)

Weird they need to compile a list of NX news and they didn't talk about NX this week? They've commented on NX before saying "yeah it sounds like it'll be this hybrid thing"...Jose is gone for two weeks...Hmm

 

[James Scott]

I regressed?

Was I in rehab lol?

Look, all the source said was Nintendo's focus on was the home console right now and that what's going to be revealed soon is the home console. They werent very specific to avoid breaking NDA but there's some kind of portable aspect to this device but it wasn't specified.

And it's just one source vs the many saying hybrid so don't put much stock into it.

Just don't see Nintendo going back to it after Aonuma who was specifically working on an NX game (the first confirmed NX game) bad mouthed the concept of the Wii U as an excuse to why they won't include GamePad functionality in BoTW

 

[ggx2ac]

That's assuming they still use those letters. It's certainly possible to just use colors, for instance, or symmetrical letters or shapes like O, I, X... and something else?

Not that I see them giving up the letters, but it's less of a problem to overcome I'd say.

There should be ways to design button identifiers in a way that's symbol agnostic. Colors and braille numbering (1 bump, 2 bumps, 3 bumps, 4 bumps) could work.

How about just the colours.

Have we forgotten how I mentioned a long time back about colour blind people? Are there any colour blind people on here that can see the colours on the SNES/New 3DS buttons? Not just on the device itself, would they even be able to see the prompt on screen if Nintendo decides to go with colour only buttons?

The other thing you guys still don't get turning the controller on its side shifts the buttons, I said it before:

(Y)(X)
(B)(A)

-> (turned on its side.)

(B)(Y)
(A)(X)

It won't matter if you replace it with symbols, you'll still get the same problem.

This isn't the same as the Wii Remote because the Wii remote was simple with its numbers:

(1)
(2) in vertical

(1)(2) in horizontal.


Do you know why the above made sense for Wii? Because people should know how to count. You can see it is in an increasing order in a straight line.

You don't get that with diamond shaped buttons even if they were numbered.

(1)(2)
(3)(4)

turned on its side

(3)(1)
(4)(2)

The majority of people don't do linear algebra, they're not going to suddenly get how to follow the order or pattern.

Edit: I just tried this pattern too for the, "follow the numbers in the Clockwise direction"
The part that could be perceived as confusing is when it is shifted to its side, the top most button becomes 4, 1 starts on the right.

(1)(2)
(4)(3)

(4)(1)
(3)(2)

 

[J@hranimo]

Agree, I listened and they know something, they sounded giddy. They were just at the Apple event and talked to Miyamoto... I noticed a few media outlets (including IGN) got to interview Miyamoto about Super Mario Run and no one asked any NX questions at all? C'mon, its all happening soon and my guess its going to be a video event next week. Jose telling Peer and Brian to "compile all the data that the is out in the world next week to determine what NX is", etc.

Very soon people, believe. Get your 'there it is' gifs ready.


EDIT: link to the podcast - (start listening after the 45 min mark and determine for yourself)

Hmm, it really just sounds like they're going to talk about all of the recent NX rumors and formulate what their idea of the platform will be. You guys might be reading (hearing?) too much into this.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Agree, I listened and they know something, they sounded giddy. They were just at the Apple event and talked to Miyamoto... I noticed a few media outlets (including IGN) got to interview Miyamoto about Super Mario Run and no one asked any NX questions at all? C'mon, its all happening soon and my guess its going to be a video event next week. Jose telling Peer and Brian to "compile all the data that the is out in the world next week to determine what NX is", etc.

Very soon people, believe. Get your 'there it is' gifs ready.


EDIT: link to the podcast - (start listening after the 45 min mark and determine for yourself)

Or....Nintendo reps told journalists "if you want to interview Miyamoto today, no NX questions" and they were like "ok". And that was that.

 

[ckfy63a]

Have we forgotten how I mentioned a long time back about colour blind people? Are there any colour blind people on here that can see the colours on the SNES/New 3DS buttons? Not just on the device itself, would they even be able to see the prompt on screen if Nintendo decides to go with colour only buttons?

The other thing you guys still don't get turning the controller on its side shifts the buttons, I said it before:

(Y)(X)
(B)(A)

-> (turned on its side.)

(B)(Y)
(A)(X)

It won't matter if you replace it with symbols, you'll still get the same problem.

This isn't the same as the Wii Remote because the Wii remote was simple with its numbers:

(1)
(2) in vertical

(1)(2) in horizontal.


Do you know why the above made sense for Wii? Because people should know how to count. You can see it is in an increasing order in a straight line.

You don't get that with diamond shaped buttons even if they were numbered.

(1)(2)
(3)(4)

turned on its side

(3)(1)
(4)(2)

The majority of people don't do linear algebra, they're not going to suddenly get how to follow the order or pattern.

I think it'd be interesting if you got some kind of extremely small display on the buttons -- such that the text on the buttons can change when the orientation of the controller changes. Maybe this has to do with that free form display deal we've heard about with Sharp in the past.

 

[ggx2ac]

I think it'd be interesting if you got some kind of extremely small display on the buttons -- such that the text on the buttons can change when the orientation of the controller changes. Maybe this has to do with that free form display deal we've heard about with Sharp in the past.

I already mentioned SHARP free form screen tech, how expensive are we talking here for those buttons? How do they feel pressing? How much battery power would they consume seeing as you wouldn't be looking at them all the time.

It feels like a Wii U Gamepad idea, I'd hope the engineers wouldn't consider that idea so they can save money and not bother having sideways controllers. Only then we'd have to see if they can be used standalone in Wii Remote style for local multiplayer.

(This rumour from Eurogamer is the only thing I am suspicious of, even IGN said something about it before.)

 

[AdanVC]

Starting to get a lil' pissed with all this secrecy from Nintendo's part. They are treating NX like if they just re-invented the wheel or something.

 

[LegendofLex]

Or....Nintendo reps told journalists "if you want to interview Miyamoto today, no NX questions" and they were like "ok". And that was that.

This is by far the most likely scenario, judging from past experience with how Nintendo approaches interviews.

I think it'd be interesting if you got some kind of extremely small display on the buttons -- such that the text on the buttons can change when the orientation of the controller changes. Maybe this has to do with that free form display deal we've heard about with Sharp in the past.

Oh, wow, that's an awesomely elegant solution.

Nice!

 

[J@hranimo]

Starting to get a lil' pissed with all this secrecy from Nintendo's part. They are treating NX like if they just re-invented the wheel or something.

You're being irrational. I believe it is a part of a strategy, and so far it's working because no one can pinpoint it properly, not even the analysts. Only day 9 of 30, remember that!

Edit: Sorry if that came off as imflammatory

 

[Dark Cloud]

Starting to get a lil' pissed with all this secrecy from Nintendo's part. They are treating NX like if they just re-invented the wheel or something.

Just have to be patient. I'm sure they've planned it out and they don't want to mess this up like they did the Wii U. You have to make it for another weekend.

 

[WesFX]

Being a dedicated portable in the mobile era is pretty irrelevant. Nintendo enthusiasts are also price sensitive, just look at the 3DS.

At 300 the NX is likely DOA unless some miracle happens.

I think it was most people waiting for an inevitable XL version.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I already mentioned SHARP free form screen tech, how expensive are we talking here for those buttons? How do they feel pressing? How much battery power would they consume seeing as you wouldn't be looking at them all the time.

It feels like a Wii U Gamepad idea, I'd hope the engineers wouldn't consider that idea so they can save money and not bother having sideways controllers. Only then we'd have to see if they can be used standalone in Wii Remote style for local multiplayer.

(This rumour from Eurogamer is the only thing I am suspicious of, even IGN said something about it before.)

Well the local multiplayer rumor only has these issues if it turns out that Emily Rogers asymmetrical sticks rumor is true. It's very likely that a good amount of these rumors turn out to be not true for the final retail unit, so I wouldn't necessarily discount the Eurogamer local multiplayer rumor over the offset sticks rumor.

Or small free form displays could indeed be cheap and power efficient, who knows! Could be a very cool hook for the mass market.

 

[ggx2ac]

Well the local multiplayer rumor only has these issues if it turns out that Emily Rogers asymmetrical sticks rumor is true. It's very likely that a good amount of these rumors turn out to be not true for the final retail unit, so I wouldn't necessarily discount the Eurogamer local multiplayer rumor over the offset sticks rumor.

Or small free form displays could indeed be cheap and power efficient, who knows! Could be a very cool hook for the mass market.

Would they just only be on the face buttons on the right side? Nothing for the split D-pad on the left?

That's why I feel it seems kind of pointless.
I pointed out before that the D-pad has no problem being put on its side just like the Wii Remote because the Wii Remote D-pad only had lines so people just had to know what direction is left etc when turning the Wii Remote on its side.

 

[Discomurf]

Hmm, it really just sounds like they're going to talk about all of the recent NX rumors and formulate what their idea of the platform will be. You guys might be reading (hearing?) too much into this.

I don't know... I mean its subjective but I listen to this podcast pretty much weekly and they definitely sounded to me like they were hinting that there will be news next week and Jose was going to miss the party... Peer mentioned how sad it will be that he's not going to be there etc.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Would they just only be on the face buttons on the right side? Nothing for the split D-pad on the left?

That's why I feel it seems kind of pointless.
I pointed out before that the D-pad has no problem being put on its side just like the Wii Remote because the Wii Remote D-pad only had lines so people just had to know what direction is left etc when turning the Wii Remote on its side.

Hmm then maybe both controllers would have dpad arrows and they do away with letters for the face numbers all together. I doubt that will happen but it seems like a decent solution.

 

[Earendil]

10k never completely joined team not-completely-batshit-insane. I was ready to open him with open arms 😧

That's a bit macabre, isn't it?

 

[Roto Prime]

What if the screen is 3D?

I would be very, very happy.

 

[ggx2ac]

I would be very, very happy.

Not happening. 720p screen in 3D like 3DS, 1280 horizontal resolution increases twofold.

2560 x 720 resolution in 3D. That would be a huge battery drain especially when we were talking about that with regards to 1080p screens draining more battery than 720p.

 

[fossi8]

It's just matter of time to wake up with a leaked photo from the real device and get in the following day a Nintendo Direct for NX revealing.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

ScrewAttack's Top 5 Reasons Nintendo NX Will Be Awesome

 

[J@hranimo]

I don't know... I mean its subjective but I listen to this podcast pretty much weekly and they definitely sounded to me like they were hinting that there will be news next week and Jose was going to miss the party... Peer mentioned how sad it will be that he's not going to be there etc.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

You're probably right as a frequent listener

I'm just giving my objective stance on it.

 

[Samemind]

Would they just only be on the face buttons on the right side? Nothing for the split D-pad on the left?

That's why I feel it seems kind of pointless.
I pointed out before that the D-pad has no problem being put on its side just like the Wii Remote because the Wii Remote D-pad only had lines so people just had to know what direction is left etc when turning the Wii Remote on its side.

So the other possibility is to label each button with an arrow pointing away from the center. Now top face button is just "top face button" and so on. When you rotate the pad, they're still just directional arrows that remain legible. If each piece is used individually, you now have two sets of directional buttons. Which, since the circle pad would be used for moving, grants us parity for both players. Which then leads to "well now how to do you explain the difference between the D-Pad and face buttons when used together like a regular controller" I say to that, you put some sort of secondary characterisitic like colors or button shape to differentiate. Now your buttons have a main primary commonality but a means to differentiate.


All of this is really irrelevant, tbh. I don't think they would have a debuted a new branding that prominently features the ABXY cross if they weren't going to use moving forward.
http://67.227.255.239/forum/showpost.php?p=203261689&postcount=1

 

[ASIS]

Hey guys I've got September off too.

Call me Nintendo xoxo

Serious post; Whatever happens with third party games on NX, I really hope Nintendo will still try to get games like Ace Attorney. Playing AA Spirit of Justice right now... I really hope we'll get to see new games in the series on NX, not just mobile or tablets.

Edit: I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to ask reporters not to discuss NX during the Super Mario Run hands-on.

I hope we get sequels to Wii one offs and franchises on the NX.

Trauma Team
Zack and Wiki
Red Steel (following the second design obviously)
Pandora's Tower
Little King's Story

etc.
I would love to see them make a return.

 

[ggx2ac]

So the other possibility is to label each button with an arrow pointing away from the center. Now top face button is just "top face button" and so on. When you rotate the pad, they're still just directional arrows that remain legible. If each piece is used individually, you now have two sets of directional buttons. Which, since the circle pad would be used for moving, grants us parity for both players. Which then leads to "well now how to do you explain the difference between the D-Pad and face buttons when used together like a regular controller" I say to that, you put some sort of secondary characterisitic like colors or button shape to differentiate. Now your buttons have a main primary commonality but a means to differentiate.


All of this is really irrelevant, tbh. I don't think they would have a debuted a new branding that prominently features the ABXY cross if they weren't going to use moving forward.
http://67.227.255.239/forum/showpost.php?p=203261689&postcount=1

No, what it means is that I find the standalone sideways controllers rumours to be very unlikely to occur.

I can see the Wii Remote style happening but it still has the issue of the shoulder button if that would still be used.

As someone else said, maybe there are no more shoulder buttons, maybe they are just triggers because we haven't seen shoulder buttons on any mock-ups and Emily probably had a miscommunication with her source on the difference between a shoulder button and a trigger.

 

[Not]

It's just matter of time to wake up with a leaked photo from the real device and get in the following day a Nintendo Direct for NX revealing.

Yup. Any day now. Annnnnny dayyyy now

 

[Malus]

ScrewAttack's Top 5 Reasons Nintendo NX Will Be Awesome

Reason 4: Better third party support.

yeeeeeeaaaaah we'll see

Reason 1: Nintendo really fucked up the Wii U. It couldn't possibly be worse.

lel

Well I guess it's true. Most likely.

 

[AdanVC]

You're being irrational. I believe it is a part of a strategy, and so far it's working because no one can pinpoint it properly, not even the analysts. Only day 9 of 30, remember that!

Edit: Sorry if that came off as imflammatory

Just have to be patient. I'm sure they've planned it out and they don't want to mess this up like they did the Wii U. You have to make it for another weekend.

Absolutely. At the end of the day though, it's nice they are taking their time to reveal this since it means they are probably analizing even the tiniest bit of detail to don't mess this one up like they did with the Wii U and all the stuff Nintendo has been doing lately, at least in terms of brand recognition has been beyond stellar (Mario on the closing Olympics ceremony, Miyamoto on the Apple event to announce SMRun) so I hope that's a sign that NX will have the same amount of explosive recognition.

ScrewAttack's Top 5 Reasons Nintendo NX Will Be Awesome

This was a cool little vid. I like their enthusiasm and they are right this might be an amazing console now that Nintendo learned from their mistakes with Wii U.

 

[Samemind]

No, what it means is that I find the standalone sideways controllers rumours to be very unlikely to occur.

I can see the Wii Remote style happening but it still has the issue of the shoulder button if that would still be used.

As someone else said, maybe there are no more shoulder buttons, maybe they are just triggers because we haven't seen shoulder buttons on any mock-ups and Emily probably had a miscommunication with her source on the difference between a shoulder button and a trigger.

Ok my bad, I meant to say the whole "how do you make a cross of buttons work in two different orientations" thing doesn't matter. I agree with the unlikeliness of using a half controller per player.

 

[The Boat]

All sorts of tablets are available at low prices, much lower than $300. Both PS4 and X1 are already available at lower prices right now, e.g. you can get X1+Game for $249.99. That is without e.g. taking into account that the current PS4 model will only drop in price with the release of Slim/Pro and without looking for any particularly cheap deals.

Both consoles and tablets have an enormous amount of games available, not to mention (in particular true for tablets) a plethora of apps. Unless NX uses an established ecosystem (such as Android), it will be far behind for a long time.



Except they would be (much) more expensive than their competition, presumably with a significantly smaller library and (regarding consoles) with much less hardware power*. There is also the (presumed) lack of backwards compatibility, not to mention how consumers see Nintendo (e.g. regarding their so far laughable online approach).

*I am not up to date, but I recall rumors put the hardware power even below X1? Understandable for a handeld I assume.



If you think that a handheld is going to fly off the shelves at $249, then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not saying it is unreasonable regarding the specs, I'm saying that it's unreasonable to assume such a device would sell all that well. Have you all forgotten how the 3DS performed until the price drop? They would need to have a sensational ace up their sleeve to sell it at that price. *Maybe* $249 if they can drop the price quickly enough and have an amazing line-up for the first year.

If you start comparing it with every tablet and phone, then yeah it's going to seem expensive no matter what.
I usually don't take deals into account when comparing prices, perhaps that's a mistake on my part, but I think that the majority of the market looks and buys at the "normal" retail price. Otherwise discussing prices is a clusterfuck.

Here's the thing, you see this as just a regular handheld, when it isn't, the pricing, marketing and value isn't or doesn't have to be the same, the situation isn't the same as it was for the 3DS. Even if you minimize it to "it's just a handheld with TV out", that's not how they're going to sell it.
It all depends on how they present it and how they market it, if they can sell it as a console that you can take on the go and play the types of games you usually only play on the TV on a console, there is a lot of value there to justify a higher price than you'd pay for a souped up 3DS. We live in a world where tons of people, even those who don't have a lot money, pay more than 500 bucks for phones and tablets.

Again, I'm not saying a lower price point isn't possible or desirable and I'm not saying they don't have a lot of obstacles on their way, I just think that you can't simply take the pricing logic you'd use on a regular handheld and apply it here, especially without knowing details.

 

[WesFX]

I would be very, very happy.

I would too. Several of the StreetPass dioramas make my mouth water at having more power with a 3D display.