IchigoSharingan
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that's a nice way of saying their marketing is garbage, which it is.
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TouchSense, a haptic technology, will be implemented in the Switch's touchscreen
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that's a nice way of saying their marketing is garbage, which it is.
gingerbeardman
Member
Like that but much improved, so that it tricks your mind info feeling shapes, textures, movement, etc
LordRaptor
Member
Not really, nor does:
They're specifically describing their product as "touch".
Not only does that word have very specific technological connotations, it is a weird way to describe a controller interaction.
Oh yeah. I have a 7 Plus.
I was talking specifically about none of the Switch software utilizing the tech yet.
Because that's how you interact with it, by touch.
Actually, it's the other way around; eating contest relies more on the IR camera capture in the joycon.
The best example would be the marbles game.
Graphics Horse
Member
It might not amount to much more than a patent license, but you'd be the one to ask. Immersion has history of litigation against console makers using rumble and were the reason ps3 launched without it.
BrettHeazy
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Coming out 2018 in the SwitchU
You did!
It's like we lost touch with reality.
PuppetMaster
Member
Your mind is being tricked, that's for sure.
Lol hardly what the mind trick is about. More like tricking you into spending 300 dollars.
LordRaptor
Member
I mean, this might literally be nothing more than Nintendo licenced this for their future mobile games and itsfuckingnothing.gif, but press releases for cross licencing of technologies are usually incredibly specific with regards to corporate branding, and it would be very unusual for Nintendo and TouchSense to be using differen terms for the same technology
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Thats still a very strange way to describe interaction with a controller.
Nobody is claiming the PS4 / X1 are "touch controlled".
AquaWateria
Member
I'm still surprised how Nintendo hasn't showed off their touchscreen.
I mean the DS4 has a Touchpad that is also "touch-based". I agree it's peculiar qualifier, but every controller that ever was requires touch despite "technological connotations"
chillybright
Banned
Are there any other sources reporting this feature?
Conkerkid11
Member
This gonna be the first Nintendo hardware with a decent touch screen then? Good.
Yep... it would be too much stuff to take in all at once.
Bring back the classics
Banned
The reason is the switch units where not fully finished units they where still finishing tweaks still.
Graphics Horse
Member
The switch does use Immersion's Touch Sense tech, but they don't specify if it's for the screen. It might be possible for the joycons either side to provide appropriate feedback on the screen surface, Nintendo has some patents on that a few years ago like the oval controller one where actuators in the handles provided touch screen feedback. All speculation though so far.
There is a patent... from a while ago...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=179179643&postcount=266
I think it relate to this one
I think it relate to this one
LordRaptor
Member
I just don't see a professionally written press release intended for tech news reports would use a deliberately confusing descriptor that invokes a technology it has nothing to do with as being more likely than this describes a touchscreen technology.
Skittzo0413
Member
Patents and trademarks aren't really related. I don't know if "HD Rumble" has been officially trademarked, but regardless, if Nintendo and Immersion have indeed entered into some sort of partnership for this technology (which appears to obviously be the case, whether for HD Rumble and touchscreen haptics is what's currently unknown) then there's no reason they couldn't use Nintendo's terminology. As KingSnake pointed out on the last page it could simply be that they want to push it as their own tech, rather than marry it to a Nintendo device. But I still think it's odd they they haven't at all specified that their "touchsense" tech is being used for the Switch's HD Rumble, even though they've stated that it is used in the Switch itself.
I agree overall with your point but the press release explicitly says this technology is used in the Nintendo Switch. In which area, or for which function who knows?
We really don't know at this point. Here are the facts as I understand them:
- Switch Joycons (and pro controller) have HD Rumble, licensed by Immersion
- Immersion sent out a press release discussing their partnership with Nintendo to bring their "touchsense" technology but doesn't specify whether it's for the touchscreen or the HD rumble.
- Some reports have surfaced that the Switch tablet includes rumble actuators, but we have no confirmation.
- Nintendo officially confirmed that the Switch has a capacitative touch screen but for some reason have shown zero applications which use it, even in the console UI.
So basically we're at the wait and see stage here. Anyone saying that this is confirmed either way definitively is jumping the gun.
Well, I made a thread before this one where I was speculating that Alps Electric designed the hardware for the HD Rumble.
Link here: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1334244
But I could be wrong, what I am trying to find out is if Immersion had any hand in designing the hardware. Either Nintendo just licensed the TouchSense software from them and Nintendo did the hardware themselves, or Nintendo used Alps Electric's Haptic Reactor.
Still, I could be wrong about Alps Electric although there is a picture of the product so at least a teardown in March could make it easier to see what the HD Rumble looks like.
Graphics Horse
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Considering they haven't presented a use case for holding the tablet by itself, I'm doubting (IGN's?) claims that the tablet itself has feedback. But as long as the rails don't cause an issue, the controllers should be able to provide some level of feedback across the whole device in handheld mode.
The Joy-Cons presumably have one or more sperate actuator at each end of the controller which can give you the feedback of balls rolling inside or milk squirting through etc similar to how stereo sound works. A joy con at each side of the grip/tablet could potentially give you this style feedback but in two dimensions instead of one.
The Joy-Cons presumably have one or more sperate actuator at each end of the controller which can give you the feedback of balls rolling inside or milk squirting through etc similar to how stereo sound works. A joy con at each side of the grip/tablet could potentially give you this style feedback but in two dimensions instead of one.
The value is the problem.
Skittzo0413
Member
They also haven't provided a use case for the touch screen at all, yet have confirmed it is a capacitative multi-touch screen. It seems more like they're holding back on revealing any touchscreen/tablet features for some reason.
What is abou the suden change in perception? Is there any else besides this that wasn't anounced?
Because bill of materials != value to the consumer
FunkyDealer
Banned
Why wasn't this mentioned in the presentation?!
Graphics Horse
Member
True! And I'm not being down on the touchscreen feedback, I've wanted it for ages! Just sceptical of it being built into the tablet.
callmeCata
Banned
So I guess Nintendo went with more odds and ends over raw power. Super strange this was not mentioned at all.
Also seems like an added expense for not much benefit if you mainly use the switch as a console. Looking forward to impressions when people get it hands on.
Also seems like an added expense for not much benefit if you mainly use the switch as a console. Looking forward to impressions when people get it hands on.
Skittzo0413
Member
Oh I mostly agree with you- I'm definitely not convinced this thread title is accurate, but there are certainly some factors which support it.
If anything, all of this misinformation (or straight up lack of information) has convinced me we'll get another Switch direct (or two) before launch. Which is exciting!