Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
Nah I'm not saying he's innocent. He's anything but. I was just thinking about how the fuck he came into this line of thinking being the son of two nonwhite immigrants. Him going so knee-deep into it is definitely past innocence. I just feel like he's become such a shitty person because was too plain stupid and ignorant too look at fucking facts or listen to other people. Everything he said in this interview just came across as extremely stupid to me. Like he had no actual idea of what he was even talking about. He's too stupid to look at things from another perspective and too stupid to properly back himself up. It was one of the biggest displays of stupidity I've ever seen.
Their really isn't a such thing as White culture. Now you could say French culture, Spanish culture, Dutch culture and etc but none of these should have a race requirement to them it's just collective works of Art,music, fashion, behavior quirks,etc found within a region. Typically those who complain about destruction of white culture isn't very cultured to begin with.
Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
I genuinely think Dick Masterson is 90% an act
Even if it's not, I feel like it's disingenuous to call it an alt-right podcast. She was introduced through a mutual friend, Asterios Kokkinos, who is a big part of the Dick Show and is pretty far left, constantly arguing with Dick over politics. A big part of the guests on his show are people that disagree with the general ideas he presents - liberals, mostly - and Dick definitely isn't made to be the smart one most of the time. And as for the fanbase, there are a lot of trump guys for whatever reason, but the response to Mike Cernovich being on his show was pretty much the biggest backlash I've seen.
JonTron, though, man, I feel like you could take reasonable approaches with some of the stuff on paper but watching the debate it's pretty damn clear he's in the wrong and might genuinely lean racist.
I think the "immigration destroying culture" thing doesn't apply to America, a nation of immigrants, as an America. But I also think that you're not racist if you make the same case for european nations, even if the decisions and reasoning that come from that are often not good choices...But I also don't really have a strong opinion, since, yknow, I'm not european.
Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
No No No it doesn't work that way.
You can be against taxation, against too much government, for a more deregulated economy and no one is going to call you a racist.
But if you come here and say that because I'm black I'm inherently more violent, that colonisation was a good thing and that immigrants are destroying every single country they are let into, you're racist.
That's not an opinion it's a fact.
He views "immigrants" as lesser people, I don't see why you would what to downplay that.
Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
In all fairness I didn't catch the summary of his Twitch debate, I was just reading the Tweets. Which whilst pretty bad, aren't on the same level.
So you agree with what he is saying?
In all fairness I didn't catch the summary of his Twitch debate, I was just reading the Tweets. Which whilst pretty bad, aren't on the same level.
People are calling Jon that because he's saying really fucking racist things.Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
If these are "right leaning views", then having "right leaning views" means Jon is a racist cunt.To recap (and I'm sure this is not all of what JonTron said), JonTron said, in what he thought was perfectly fine for a debate:
- Foreigners dilute the gene pool
- Black crime in America is the same as in Africa (like, he fuckin' brought this up TWICE)
- Racial issues can be summed up via mixing different colors of paint
- Statistical data means nothing because Clinton lost the election
- Destiny wants to kill black people
- Black Lives Matter is a violent organization
- the richest black man commits more crimes than the poorest white man
- Tribalism is a valid theory
- Immigrants are destroying every single country they are let into
- America is gonna become Mexico
- Racism is over
- Muslims are organizing to make it seem like Christians are protesting abortion clinics
And Destiny didn't even fucking ask the most obvious fuckin' question: "If you're so concerned about immigrants, why do you keep bringing up blacks?"
Not at all, I'm a Labour voter and massive socialist lol.
I'm growing tired of the shit hurling though, would rather discuss it with people. We're all getting more divided year on year.
Decided to start listening to the debate while I'm at work, and hooooly shit. I really hope Jon sees some serious blowback from this, since someone with this amount of smug delusion desperately needs to get shaken back to reality.
Not at all, I'm a Labour voter and massive socialist lol.
I'm growing tired of the shit hurling though, would rather discuss it with people. We're all getting more divided year on year.
We could be nicer when we discuss opposing viewpoints but no way you listen to that debate and come to the post you did if you didnt feel he had a point. I see now you only looked at the tweets but man, you have no idea what you just defended.
Like, if you want to make a point about "the backlash is overblown" you have an obligation to actually listen to the content being discussed. I'm saying this with zero snark. Like the things he says in this video are full blown racism.
I'm growing tired of the shit hurling though, would rather discuss it with people. We're all getting more divided year on year.
We could be nicer when we discuss opposing viewpoints but no way you listen to that debate and come to the post you did if you didnt feel he had a point. I see now you only looked at the tweets but man, you have no idea what you just defended.
Like, if you want to make a point about "the backlash is overblown" you have an obligation to actually listen to the content being discussed.
Bro, they are on the same level because there's no such thing as a racism spectrum. If someone says racist shit, they'll be labeled as a racist.
don't forget gyros and beer
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Is this a witch Hunt....
The only thing that will break his delusion would be getting deported by one of those new orders President Bannon is cooking up over at the White House.
Is this a witch Hunt....
The one 'good' thing about this Trump foolishness is that it's bringing the worms to the surface, all newly empowered by having someone stupidier than them in the Whitehouse and all happy to profess their ignorance and bigotry. Still, at least we know who these cunts are now.
Lol "right leaning views", "knee jerk".Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
Please create a safe space for the racists. The left really has to learn to find common ground instead of criticizing people!!!!
Not at all, I'm a Labour voter and massive socialist lol.
I'm growing tired of the shit hurling though, would rather discuss it with people. We're all getting more divided year on year.
You don't think vilifying right leaning people to extremes strengthens their cause? Has that not happened to some degree within the last four years?
You had people on the fence in the UK with the referendum vote and they're called racist for expression concerns about over-immigration. How does that help persuade them of anything at all? Discuss it with them and maybe they'll see your point of view. It's not rocket science this.
Probably the only question here and worthy of debate and discussion.
Instead, many are calling him a racist and a cunt?
People who have some right leaning views are instantly labeled and vilified nowadays... isn't this knee-jerk labeling and judgment something liberal minded people are meant to be against?
Fuck it, Pie says it more eloquently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
Personally, disappointing from Jon. Reaction seems a bit much though.
You had people on the fence in the UK with the referendum vote and they're called racist for expression concerns about over-immigration. How does that help persuade them of anything at all? Discuss it with them and maybe they'll see your point of view. It's not rocket science this.
The worst part is that his fans are like "lol you did great man Destiny couldn't keep to point" and " a little more polish and you'd have him pinned"
It's like what? Do these people hear a different reality? Is this delusion?
God it's so annoying.
The worst part is that his fans are like "lol you did great man Destiny couldn't keep to point" and " a little more polish and you'd have him pinned"
It's like what? Do these people hear a different reality? Is this delusion?
God it's so annoying.
To recap (and I'm sure this is not all of what JonTron said), JonTron said, in what he thought was perfectly fine for a debate:
- Foreigners dilute the gene pool
- Black crime in America is the same as in Africa (like, he fuckin' brought this up TWICE)
- Racial issues can be summed up via mixing different colors of paint
- Statistical data means nothing because Clinton lost the election
- Destiny wants to kill black people
- Black Lives Matter is a violent organization
- the richest black man commits more crimes than the poorest white man
- Tribalism is a valid theory
- Immigrants are destroying every single country they are let into
- America is gonna become Mexico
- Racism is over
- Muslims are organizing to make it seem like Christians are protesting abortion clinics
And Destiny didn't even fucking ask the most obvious fuckin' question: "If you're so concerned about immigrants, why do you keep bringing up blacks?"
Jon learning about red states taking more in federal funds is amazing.
I don't think any big YouTubers/Streamers who would normally consider defending Jon will be touching this with a 10 foot pole. There is no way to back JonTron after this and not be labeled a racist yourself.Has h3h3 defended this yet?
The concept of race culture is so fucking stupid and obvious if you bothered to look at reality. Black people in New York and New Orleans don't have the same culture and that's in the same country.
It homogenizes everything and assumes people of color are the same everywhere. The concept of "white culture" is nothing but racist.
Um they were immigrants initially.
Listening to the Destiny interview.
WHAT THE FUCK AT 40:00? Mexicans come here for free handouts so they can turn the USA into Mexico?