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[bigdaddygamebot]

Not exactly the best name to use.

I thought the very same.

 

[WinFonda]

For reference, this was VGleaks first Orbis leak back in June 2012

http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-ps4-in-deep-first-specs/

CPU went from 4core Steamroller to 8 Core Jaguar

GPU info has stayed same, but there's now additional info on it. It has less CU units but the TFlops and clock speed are the same.

RAM went from 2GB @ 192 GB/s to 4GB @ 176 GB/s, although in their initial leak they said 4GB was being targeted.

So basically, from their first leak to the latest, the major change has been the CPU.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

You mean Vision GT? I doubt it'd be like that. Kaz has said that the cars that they actually built cars for GT5 that are more suited for the PS4 than the PS3. It just comes down to the courses after that. Even limiting it to one course wouldn't be a bad thing. With GT2000 they ended up only using a Special Route course for its unveiling, and even eventually started showing of Seattle.

Yeah, I mean that.

Since they have now 2 teams I guess that whatever is shown for PS4 will be more advanced in development.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Everything looks really nice... except I was expecting 8GB of RAM.

OVERKILL

 

[daveo42]

Guys, a GCN 'render backend' has 4 ROPs.

8 render backends * 4 ROPs = 32 ROPs.

The 7950 has 8 'render backends' also, for example.

Can someone else confirm this as well? Not that I don't believe you in the first place gofreak.

 

[MeBecomingI]

Ugh, this platform is going to be expensive...

 

[Pachterballs]

Everything looks really nice... except I was expecting 8GB of RAM.

its DDR5 and faster than durango's ram

this was made clear in the xxxteeentth orbis threads.

 

[plainr_]

No mention of the break-apart DS4 controller? I want that to happen so we don't need a dedicated Move controller laying around doing nothing.

 

[moe6142]

seems like all the same stuff....wow "unveiled"

 

[Derrick01]

System will lose a lot of steam for me if that camera and move are forced into each console. It'll basically guarantee I never play a shooter of any kind online ever.

 

[Tobor]

Ugh, this platform is going to be expensive...

$399 is too expensive?

 

[Duffyside]

(It won't be $400) with 2 cameras and a Move controller.

And a redesigned dual shock.

 

[noffles]

I don't know whether I'll be dropping for Durango or Orbis, but holy fucking hell I don't want this thing going down like the Vita.

 

[Sid]

Yeah, I mean that.

Since they have now 2 teams I guess that whatever is shown for PS4 will be more advanced in development.

Both are working on GT i believe.

 

[seattle6418]

Sentence two doesn't go with sentence one.

I was expecting BDXL and the article doesn't bring anything new on that either. Saying it's a 6x one, is basically saying it's using the same one they said Durango would be using it.

 

[Pug]

Bar the memory setups they seem incredibly similar machines to me.

 

[Pooya]

18 Texture Unit
8 Render backends

look at a similar spec for a gpu in same scale as Orbis supposedly have:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7850/Pages/radeon-7850.aspx#3

64 texture Unit
32 ROPs

something is wrong with these specs, or someone wanted to cripple the hardware when designing on purpose . I'm gonna take a HUGE grain of salt with this certain vgleaks article.

 

[gofreak]

Can someone else confirm this as well? Not that I don't believe you in the first place gofreak.

I'm getting this from the architectural overviews of GCN and reviews of various cards e.g.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ws/49646-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review-4.html

While the main core elements have changed drastically, items like the Geometry Engines and render backends haven’t seen much in the way of architectural changes and some may even think they have been overlooked. There are still eight combined Render Output Units which hold four ROPs each, giving the Tahiti core a maximum of 32 ROPs

There's a block diagram of the architecture there too showing the 8 groups of 4 ROPs etc.

 

[metareferential]

System will lose a lot of steam for me if that camera and move are forced into each console. It'll basically guarantee I never play a shooter of any kind online ever.

They're just listing input peripherals.

There's no way you'll find a move, a ds4, and a new pseye in the box.

They're not that stupid.

 

[ghst]

Maybe what proelite alluded to. Extra CUs on the GPU that will assist the CPU at time to time. IDK hopefully someone clarifies.

no way is a 14CU southern islands chip pushing 1.86 TFLOPS.

 

[bigdaddygamebot]

Same, That goes against many trends we see happening in consumer tech, and I'd think they'd make a "lesser" version for price conscious consumers.

Fuck price conscious consumers.

If you're buying a virtual headset for you to play video games on/in...you don't get to be price conscious.

 

[daveo42]

And a redesigned dual shock.

With a touchscreen.

 

[jayb]

it's still GDDR5, right?

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

No mention of the break-apart DS4 controller? I want that to happen so we don't need a dedicated Move controller laying around doing nothing.

I would be surprised if we get any info on the controller that ish is on lockdown.

 

[Somnid]

$399 is too expensive?

I'd say so. PS3 didn't sell until it got down around $300. But that's saying that it's even $400 which I doubt.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

System will lose a lot of steam for me if that camera and move are forced into each console. It'll basically guarantee I never play a shooter of any kind online ever.

no matter what is included, the Dual Shock will always be the standard for playstation until something outright replaces it. People who think otherwise are kidding themselves.

 

[iamshadowlark]

Can someone else confirm this as well? Not that I don't believe you in the first place gofreak.

No he's right.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_7950/2.html

 

[amstradcpc]

Nice my source was right.
I thought for sure we were getting Durango info but this is great. Excellent specs and its good that they are more or less confirmed.

The hardware is there now we just have to wait for the games.

Are you sure wasn´t you who inspired this piece of news?. mmmm

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Both are working on GT i believe.

I thought one was working on new GT5 content and the other on GT6?

 

[Vinci]

$399 is too expensive?

Where are you getting this price from?

 

[Lunar15]

Remember that time we were all really impressed by the Vita specs, and then it had no games and no one bought it?

Yeah I hope that doesn't happen here.

Spoiler

Kaz, pls

 

[Orayn]

it's still GDDR5, right?

Yep, that 176GB/s figure is consistent with GDDR5 and seems to have been locked in for a while now.

 

[grimshawish]

Sounds good. Still think hard drive should be additional but am fighting a losing battle there I suppose.

All sound excellent otherwise thought. RAM is better than people expected before the leaks began, so it all seems good.

 

[MeBecomingI]

$399 is too expensive?

Yeah, if the price is around that I think it is. It'll be worth it, but it'll be a lot money.

 

[Fezan]

Hd10xx card is new. So next gen architecture ?

 

[Zeal]

Damn, Sony ain't fucking around anymore.

Headquarters better "step yo game up".

 

[Maxrunner]

$399 is too expensive?

Do you really believe this? i mean wiiu is being sold at a loss.....and this thing even has a move and camera included???lols

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Just realized that RAM bandwidth has been reduced from 192GB/s to 176GB/s.

 

[The Last Wizard]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD AT THIS GIF!

Best. gif. evah!

One SKU? Thank you.



OT but who is this dude?

Men's world number one Tennis champion...Novak Djokovic!

Courtesy of SunhiLegend.

 

[i-Lo]

No he's right.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_7950/2.html

Thank you for the verification.

Still, the texture unit count (deficit) is rustling numerous jimmies, including mine.

 

[Grief.exe]

Maybe a dumb question (and I apologize if it's been asked to death)...

But how does this compare to current high end PC builds? I'm looking at that 3.5gb dedicated to games, and weeping at my 2gb GTX680 sli.

I wonder if this gen will push dedicated memory past 2gb. I know Max Payne did with the high res textures.

That is total system ram though.

In these consoles they are using one set of RAM to account for graphics memory and general system memory.

To compare to a PC, you probably have 8 GB of DDR3 system RAM, some of which is used by the OS. And 2 GB of GDDR5 on your GPU for graphics memory.

Latency on VRAM is a considerable factor in a good GPU, and Durango seems to have a fairly slow latency, Orbis seems to be faster.

 

[gaming_noob]

Sony is ready to regain the number 1 spot. Well done!

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Are you sure wasn´t you who inspired this piece of news?. mmmm

If it was Kotaku than yes but not VGLeaks. My guy is extremely solid but it was the first hardware related info that he ever gave me to put on Gaf.

Remember that time we were all really impressed by the Vita specs, and then it had no games and no one bought it?

Yeah I hope that doesn't happen here.

:_ ( My Vita NOOOOO

 

[H_Prestige]

Perfect.

Sub-$400 is not happening.

LOL, I remember when everyone here was convinced the Vita would cost $400 when the specs were unveiled.

This will be a $350 launch. Bank on it.

 

[Beerman462]

I'm not sure that's what that means...

It means if they make a chip with 18 CUs you can get chips with bad CUs and you would have to throw them away if 18 is the target. If you target 14 but make 18 you can have 4 bad units and the chip is still viable. If all 18 are good then 4 will be deactivated or just not utilized.
I'm not saying this is what they mean with that statement, but it's my guess.

 

[Draft]

I hope it's good because I do want a console but I definitely don't want the WiiU and I don't think I want MS console.

 

[Saint Gregory]

One SKU? I'll believe it when I see it.

And exactly as it should be at launch. Multiple launch SKUs only confuse customers and makes it difficult to properly judge demand between SKUs for the manufactuer. I'm still shocked that Nintendo followed that stupid trend after the successful single SKU Wii launch.

 

[Vinci]

Sony is ready to regain the number 1 spot. Well done!

Sony didn't get the number 1 spot from tech specs.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

What? no blurry pics ? Booooo!

 

[amstradcpc]

no way is a 14CU southern islands chip pushing 1.86 TFLOPS.

They are counting the 18 CUs for 1.86 Tflops, but 4 may be placed between the GPU and the CPU.