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[Madao]

man this game is great

The only 2D F-Zero I had played previously was the GBA version and I really didn't like it at all. I'm glad that it seems to be a problem exclusive to Maximum Velocity, because F-Zero SNES is super fun.

if you weren't tapping the accelerator while taking a corner, then that was the problem.
once you learn that, it handles a lot like the SNES game.
the devs made a bad job at making that mechanic required to play well (the game itself teaches it to you if you leave the game running at least)

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

I looked this morning and it still wasn't on the eShop.
WHY?! ;_;

 

[Robin64]

Because you're in Europe.

On another note, it's a shame the Wii U doesn't add leaderboards to VC titles, but we do at least have Miiverse screenshot posting to show proof of our times. Perhaps some form of GAF leaderboard could be bodged together?

 

[Ken Masters]

kinda sad this isn't on the 3DS XL

why would you expect Nintendo to do something that makes sense?

 

[MysticX]

Is it up on EU eShop now?

still can´t see it

 

[wilflare]

why would you expect Nintendo to do something that makes sense?

quote for truth

 

[Robin64]

still can´t see it

Give it another few hours. It's never updated this early before.

 

[gingerbeardman]

I'm getting anxious

 

[AkimbO_Arcana]

It's online in europe via search! Go, go, go!!!

 

[meppi]

It's online in europe via search! Go, go, go!!!

Downloading now.

At least something worthwhile happened in the past 24 hours.

 

[zroid]

if you weren't tapping the accelerator while taking a corner, then that was the problem.
once you learn that, it handles a lot like the SNES game.
the devs made a bad job at making that mechanic required to play well (the game itself teaches it to you if you leave the game running at least)

Maybe so, I'll give it another try

 

[Jucksalbe]

It's online in europe via search! Go, go, go!!!

And it is indeed 60Hz.
Somehow I still doubted them.

 

[Robin64]

Does the EU one have some kind of warning that it's 60hz?
Just wondering how they'll handle this.

 

[Prez]

What's up with people who want to play (or don't mind playing) in slow motion because that's how they played it back then? I guess they wouldn't care if movies they watched as a child were released on Blu-Ray in crappy VCR quality as well?

 

[Yes Boss!]

Downloading now.

At least something worthwhile happened in the past 24 hours.

Let us know what you think. Turns out the compression artifacts on the Gamepad are a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Gonna be playing it on the TV.

Man, I really need one of those new fancy controllers.

 

[meppi]

What's up with people who want to play (or don't mind playing) in slow motion because that's how they played it back then? I guess they wouldn't care if movies they watched as a child were released on Blu-Ray in crappy VCR quality as well?

Some people just like to be backwards I guess.
Been talking about this somewhere else and besides them being highly misinformed and thinking they got the better version due to PAL having a slightly higher resolution (despite games almost never using them, thus black bars), their only reasoning seems to be: because I played it like that before. :-/

I'm actually fearing that those kinds of idiots might ruin it for all the rest of us in the end.

 

[AkimbO_Arcana]

The magic is still there

Feels like 1992 again, only 17,5% faster!

 

[Robin64]

What's up with people who want to play (or don't mind playing) in slow motion because that's how they played it back then? I guess they wouldn't care if movies they watched as a child were released on Blu-Ray in crappy VCR quality as well?

I don't have time for those people. As long as they don't get Nintendo to change their mind back to releasing 50hz games, anyway.

 

[meppi]

Let us know what you think. Turns out the compression artifacts on the Gamepad are a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Gonna be playing it on the TV.

Man, I really need one of those new fancy controllers.

Only played the first cup on the gamepad right now since I'm sick at home and in bed right now. Doesn't seem to bother me that much tbh.
I do notice when there's patched of dirt on the road, that they blur together starting at a certain distance. Not sure if that's because of the lack of scan lines or not.
Otherwise everything seems fine.
TV play is naturally preferred, but then again, being able to play these games in bed is a huge plus for me.

 

[GayForMaster]

Of all games to put at 30 cents... why this?

 

[canonj]

For the first time on the Wii U, I'm getting some major compression artifacts when playing this game on the gamepad. Other than that, feels great.

I'm seeing this as well. It must be the extremely busy backgrounds that makes it difficult to compress well. Oh well...I normally play on a TV anyways.

Also, I was looking through the data management settings of the Wii U and noticed that F-Zero only takes up around 8 MB (not including the save data), which is strange because the download was 39 MB. Balloon Fight has a similar discrepancy between download size and storage size. I wonder where those extra megabytes go?

 

[Prez]

The magic is still there

Feels like 1992 again, only 17,5% faster!

21% faster actually. I think? My math isn't that great.

 

[arit]

As much as I like the 30ct it costs now, the 7,99€ it will cost after the promotion period seem rather high to me.

 

[StrikerObi]

As much as I like the 30ct it costs now, the 7,99€ it will cost after the promotion period seem rather high to me.

That's how I feel about almost all of the games in this promotion except Super Metroid which is so damn good it's still worth at least $30, let alone 30 cents.

 

[AkimbO_Arcana]

21% faster actually. I think? My math isn't that great.

Mine neither, the 17,5 was the number thrown around here last month when 50Hz Balloon Fight launched and the Hz backlash started.

Too busy playing this to waste time with math right now...

 

[Jucksalbe]

21% faster actually. I think? My math isn't that great.

60Hz is 20% faster than 50Hz.
50Hz is 16.67% slower than 60Hz.

 

[noffles]

Will be downloading it later tonight because of reasons.

 

[Prez]

60Hz is 20% faster than 50Hz.
50Hz is 16.67% slower than 60Hz.

Ah this is correct, I was going by the 17.5% figure.

 

[Frankfurter]

Downloaded and already played a few minutes on the Gamepad. Aged incredibly well imo.

 

[MysticX]

Downloaded and already played a few minutes on the Gamepad. Aged incredibly well imo.

yeah, was better than I had hoped

now all nintendo needs to add are leaderboards!

btw, I added some money onto my eshop, can that be used in the wii shop as well?

 

[Robin64]

So who's going to be first to post their Mute City time? Let's get the ball rolling!
(I would but I am at work )

btw, I added some money onto my eshop, can that be used in the wii shop as well?

Afraid not..

 

[Sendou]

Of all games to put at 30 cents... why this?

Gotta make the franchise known before the full-blown sequel for Wii U.

 

[AkimbO_Arcana]

So who's going to be first to post their Mute City time? Let's get the ball rolling!

First run, there's room for improvement

 

[Yes Boss!]

I'm seeing this as well. It must be the extremely busy backgrounds that makes it difficult to compress well. Oh well...I normally play on a TV anyways.?

It is that transparent grad-filter they used to create the psuedo-effect of the road coming faster at you. Seems to wig out the system, even at slow speeds. I've played a few cups but eventually it became too noticable for me, like I've got a cataract. This game will likely be the exception given all the bitzy filigree that populates the track....not too worried about it.

I am very impressed how SNES VC looks at the 1080 upscale. Nice, nice quality.

 

[mclem]

21% faster actually. I think? My math isn't that great.

60Hz is 21% faster than 50Hz
50Hz is 17.5% slower than 60Hz

Percentages are fun.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Posted this in the older Wii U VC thread before seeing F-Zero had one of its own:

I notice the scaling is much less blurry on F-Zero than Balloon Fight. I wonder if this is a general change for the better, whether their scaling settings will be different for different systems, or something else.

Based on F-Zero not taking up full height of the TV screen in 1080p, I'm guessing it uses a cleaner-than-bilinear 4.5x scaling in each direction for an 1152x1008 image. HOWEVER, on the Gamepad it's taking the full height. If that full height is 480, that would make its scaling more like 2.143x. Much less even, and it shows in that the Gamepad image looks worse.

 

[Robin64]

First run, there's room for improvement

Woot!

I quickly put together a page to keep track of scores. We can make it nicer if it gets popular. But who knows! For now it's there, and if anyone else posts times, I'll add to it.

 

[StrikerObi]

I saw a kid post on Miiverse asking if this is the game that Captain Falcon came from. Then I realized F-Zero is 23 years old, and I wanted to punch that kid for making me feel old (I'm 29). Grumble grumble </oldmanrant>

 

[Robin64]

I saw a kid post on Miiverse asking if this is the game that Captain Falcon came from. Then I realized F-Zero is 23 years old, and I wanted to punch that kid for making me feel old (I'm 29). Grumble grumble </oldmanrant>

As I recall, isn't Captain Falcon not even mentioned in the game? Rather, like a lot of things back then, it was up to the instruction manual to add flavour to the game.

But then I wonder if it was the same in Japan. A lot of western manuals were just plain batshit insane (Super Mario Bros. having people turned to bricks), or did NoJ really like NoA's naming and then adopt it back.. Hm.

 

[CoolS]

So this is actually 60Hz in Europe? Was the Wii VC version 60Hz as well or did Nintendo actually listen on this one?!

 

[MisterHero]

As I recall, isn't Captain Falcon not even mentioned in the game? Rather, like a lot of things back then, it was up to the instruction manual to add flavour to the game.

But then I wonder if it was the same in Japan. A lot of western manuals were just plain batshit insane (Super Mario Bros. having people turned to bricks), or did NoJ really like NoA's naming and then adopt it back.. Hm.

Captain Douglas Jay Falcon is on the F-Zero boxart. Just like Ness is on EarthBound's box!

They're like noticing a tiny Abraham Lincoln on the backside of memorial pennies.

 

[gingerbeardman]

I notice the scaling is much less blurry on F-Zero than Balloon Fight. I wonder if this is a general change for the better, whether their scaling settings will be different for different systems, or something else.

At least in Europe, Balloon Fight was 576 scaled down on the Gamepad to 480. At least in my brief look at things.

The Gamepad is introducing JPEG artefacts in the streamed video, which is unfortunate. Not the end of the world but it'd be nice if they could tweak that out.

So this is actually 60Hz in Europe? Was the Wii VC version 60Hz as well or did Nintendo actually listen on this one?!

They listened!

 

[CoolS]

They listened!

That's actually really awesome then!

 

[Jucksalbe]

I quickly put together a page to keep track of scores. We can make it nicer if it gets popular. But who knows! For now it's there, and if anyone else posts times, I'll add to it.

Nice. So we just post screenshots here or is mentioning the time enough?

 

[Robin64]

Nice. So we just post screenshots here or is mentioning the time enough?

A quick snap should be okay. Heck, post to Miiverse if you don't have a camera and tell me to check your posts.

 

[HeySeuss]

Picked this up last night and played for about an hour on the gamepad. Game seems harder than i remember and I couldn't even finish the knight cup

Stupid ai seems to crowd you and make it almost impossible to not get bumped into the wall. Fucks me up every time. But I have no doubts I'll get the hang of it again soon enough.

 

[massoluk]

Bought, at 30 cents, it's a steal. Still fun, but make me wish there is online multiplayer. Also, all other drivers are jerks, pushing me against the wall.

 

[meppi]

As I recall, isn't Captain Falcon not even mentioned in the game? Rather, like a lot of things back then, it was up to the instruction manual to add flavour to the game.

But then I wonder if it was the same in Japan. A lot of western manuals were just plain batshit insane (Super Mario Bros. having people turned to bricks), or did NoJ really like NoA's naming and then adopt it back.. Hm.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Here's my first try on Mute City I (the second time is from my Grand Prix race):

Did F-Zero have a boost start? I don't remember.

 

[meppi]

Did F-Zero have a boost start? I don't remember.

It certainly does. Can't get the timing right anymore though. I always try to go at the second beep like in Mario Kart.