No one expects maximum settings on a console, I'd be fine with medium-high and 1080p.
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Battlefield 4 PS4 runs at 720p native [DICE: Incorrect]
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No one expects maximum settings on a console, I'd be fine with medium-high and 1080p.
1. Player count is mostly CPU based, and resolution really doesn't have anything to do with CPU power. Same goes with destruction.
2. Still, since when tweets by non-developers are considered sources?
Na they'd never force devs to do that. They can push for it but that'd be it.
MagicWithEarvin
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720p/60fps or 1080/30fps will be the norm for most titles next-gen, methinks.
I honestly for the life of me don't understand why people care about this?
I just don't see the problem. 30fps/60fps 720p/1080p. I have experienced both and honestly doesn't impact me what so ever, whether its 1080p , 60fps, or 720p, 30fps.
I guess I ain't sensitive to these things. and doesn't impact my enjoyment at all.
I am starting to think it's a psychological effect for some people.
I just don't see the problem. 30fps/60fps 720p/1080p. I have experienced both and honestly doesn't impact me what so ever, whether its 1080p , 60fps, or 720p, 30fps.
I guess I ain't sensitive to these things. and doesn't impact my enjoyment at all.
I am starting to think it's a psychological effect for some people.
I would say there is a good chance of that.
GitarooMan
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That suuuuucks. I expected nearly everything to run at 1080p on this gen. PC it is.
Considering how weak it looks compared to BF4 that is a given.
Unless I'm very much mistaken KZ doesn't have the insanely huge maps with air, sea and land vehicles and 64 players. So it's completely understandable.
Phire Phox
Banned
Um, most of the launch titles for Xbone/Ps4 or 1080p.
No clearly its something that doesn't bother you so this conversation will make no sense to you either. Nothing wrong with that but neither are we all just a bunch of crazy people.
If you honestly can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, especially in fast-paced FPS', then your problem isn't psychological - it's physical. Get your eyes checked.
Templar_Dante
Banned
Not Sure If Serious...
Edit: Oh yeah, wanted to ask, who the hell is the guy with the tweet? Has OP clarified?
For all we know... he is the guy designing the fish A.I in Ghosts and wont stop till he tries turn us off from the sexy BF4 Multiplayer trailer!
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
If BF4 is the only game you're interested in then yes,So I don't need to upgrade my 720p Plasma TV yet.
Every other game running on next-gen is 1080p though.
Uno Venova
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McHuj
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BF4 isn't a single platform exclusive. It's a lot harder to build the same game on at least 5 platforms ( x1, 360, PC, ps3 and ps4) and optimize them all for their specific architecture. This isn't surprising and until devs stop supporting last gen, expect more of this.
It doesn't have to be 60fps though rather just native 1080p. I know it's a launch game but is it possible that we really overestimated these next-gen consoles?
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Dont find this surprising at all to be honest. I expected devs would either be going 1080 + 30fps or 720 + 60fps for the most part. At least at first.
Reason is that most people are fine with 720p anyway. The 60fps is more noticable. Its still better than current gen that does sub 720 far to often.
Reason is that most people are fine with 720p anyway. The 60fps is more noticable. Its still better than current gen that does sub 720 far to often.
Phire Phox
Banned
This.
TheDrowningMan
Member
There will be a lot of games running at 640p sub-30fps this generation, let alone 720-60; the consoles simply aren't powerful enough to brute force anything and publishers will insist on whizz-bang particle explosions and ludicrous character models ahead of a performance-conscious middle-ground.
People obviously never played BF, realized what is going on in the screen, what 64 players provoke calculation wise.
BF scales up to the highest end. Unconditional 60fps@1080p on maximum (PC) will require high end hardware that exceeds the cost of a console by far. You better have a GTX 780 at least for this and I expect even that card not to deliver a minimum of 60fps.
BF scales up to the highest end. Unconditional 60fps@1080p on maximum (PC) will require high end hardware that exceeds the cost of a console by far. You better have a GTX 780 at least for this and I expect even that card not to deliver a minimum of 60fps.
Remember what deferred AA did to BF3 on consoles? Added an entire frame of video latency. Its why there was a patch to disable AA to squeeze the pipeline down and get rid of a frame of "controller lag".
Here's hoping the next-gen experience will not use the same shit AA.
Will pass on consoles. This gen I double dipped to play with friends on PC/PS3 - not doing it this time.
What do you tell the doctor?
"Hey doc, I have some issue seeing 60FPS in games."
"How did you measure this? Did you watch a video on YouTube?"
"Are you kidding me? YouTube only supports 30fps. I was obviously on Gamersyde."
"Okay sorry. So please stand up and take of your clothes. First I need to check the rectum."
1st Course
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matrix-cat
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I'd much rather see 720p, 60FPS than 1080p 30FPS, so they made the right choice.
TheDrowningMan
Member
Just wait a couple of years.
cobragt4001
Banned
Are 670s and 680s still considered beefy? I would give beefy to 770 and 780, of course the titan as well. But yeah, when I was rocking my single gigabyte 670 my fps would be a minimum of 34, usually when I hope in a tank and start blowing shit up. Luckily the 670 is at a cheap price now for anyone looking to upgrade from the 4xx series and are on a budget.
Future PhaZe
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but....but Cerny and 8gb GDDR5
This is just the reality of consoles. You're not going to match high end PC hardware with a 400 dollar box.
Still though its going to be a great game and I think console fans will have a considerably better time with it than BF3.
GitarooMan
Member
Your thinking about max details though. Lower some of the graphic effects and you can run at 1080/60 on a much wider range of machine.
770 is just an overclocked 680. 670 isn't far behind.
Judging by some of the ridiculous posts I've seen on this side of GAF that was true months ago.
I am just saying what the deal actually is. Also to prevent a few elitists to come in and throw GTX660s around because it supposedly is so cheap to achieve parity.
childplease
Banned
BOOM there it is.
Sign of things to come.
I wonder if this has to do with the Cpu being so weak and bottle necking the gpu.
Bf4 is essentially just Bf3 reskinned even my gtx 580 runs Bf3 at 1440p with everything on ultra at 60 fps.
Then again I also got a highly overclocked i5 2500k.
Sign of things to come.
I wonder if this has to do with the Cpu being so weak and bottle necking the gpu.
Bf4 is essentially just Bf3 reskinned even my gtx 580 runs Bf3 at 1440p with everything on ultra at 60 fps.
Then again I also got a highly overclocked i5 2500k.
hydragonwarrior
Member
Quit ruining our next gen dreamz!
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
This
1080p would have been better but 60fps should be and is the target first and foremost. I can live with 720p if the game is running smoothly
Really? Take a look at the major franchises..
COD, BF, Halo.TR. Nope!
Oh.. and look at assassins creed 3. 720 yes.. framerate down to 20 in some parts. Killzone 3 is 720 and runs at a non constant 30 frames..
There are a FEW exceptions. of course they are. However for the franchises that everyone plays resolutions and frame rates are compromised.
Give me a machine that gives a constant fixed framerate at a decent resolution and good image IQ over a 1080 framerate mess.
BF4 at 720P60 with a good image IQ will be great. As the gen develops and more power can be squeezed out of the machines i'm sure it'll get even more impressive.
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