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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch

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Kaako

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Look at it this way, my xbone brethren. Any publicity is good publicity. So come launch day, if things don't work as expected regarding XBL/OS issues then they'll get a ton of publicity!

Win-win situation for MS, I say.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
Because almost everything you claim are buying the xbox one platform for (Snap, Xbox live matchmaking etc, Smartglass integration) May be broken at launch and may take months to fix.

Of all the xbox one fans on this forum, id expect this news to give you the most amount of pause as it means that the xbox one will not even close to the all in one multitasking machine you want it to be yet.

If true.

Exactly --"if true". Panicing at this point would be a waste of time if everything gets sorted out at launch.

The main reason I'm getting an Xbox One is due to it having games I'm interested in. Those should work at launch right? Or is there a new rumor that I missed? (haha)
 
Look at it this way, my xbone brethren. Any publicity is good publicity. So come launch day, if things don't work as expected regarding XBL/OS issues then they'll get a ton of publicity!

Win-win situation for MS, I say.

Lol at everyone trying their damned hardest to draw positivity from this.
 
Good to hear it's temporary issues, I guess?
Hopefully this'll be fixed when it launches here in "2014".

The bit about the group designing the OS not understanding why things need to be certain ways is what's worrying to me. Would solidify the idea of Microsoft's direction and spread focus diminishing the main thing I care about in a console.
 

Mondy

Banned
Look at it this way, my xbone brethren. Any publicity is good publicity. So come launch day, if things don't work as expected regarding XBL/OS issues then they'll get a ton of publicity!

Win-win situation for MS, I say.

Heh, better get that optimism checked out by a professional, I think it's defective.
 

Mr.Speedy

Banned
Is this "news" because it's worse than what's typically expected?

I think it's pretty obvious/blatant that both next gen consoles will have issues in this area at launch. Just trying to get/understand where the controversy (for lack of a better way to put it) is coming from.

Both consoles will most likely have OS problems at launch. That's a given and not necessarily a big deal in and of itself. The major problem is when a large majority of features from the OS are missing. Not only that, but if XBL isn't working at 100% at launch and people have a lot of trouble playing multiplayer games there will be a lot of angry customers. Multiplayer gaming is arguably Xbox's largest attraction. On top of that, people are paying for Live. If I was to buy a year of Live at $45 - $60 and had to deal with connection issues for a few months, I wouldn't be too happy at all.
 
0 chance of them delaying the hardware launch. It would be a death blow to next gen aspirations for MS, worst PR nightmare ever, and stockholders would more likely than not ask for hired hits on whoever is in charge.
 
I just can't really believe the system is as bad as described by the enthusiast press reporter. If I'm wrong then I made the wrong choice going with Xbox one over ps4.

Keep in ind that there's no confirmation though.

Still, I don't know if I would pick-up a Xbone at launch even if I wanted to.
My PS4 won't come until February, so till then, everything should be sorted out.
 

FranXico

Member
If this fiasco led to Microsoft plummeting in sales compared to Sony I think they would pull out of the market. If they did that I think the comparison would be a poor one.

Yes we'd have all the major companies on one platform, but in that era, despite Sony dominance, there existed strong competition fueling Sony's innovation because sega, Nintendo and the soon to be Microsoft insured Sony couldn't rest on its laurels just yet.

If Microsoft goes Sony only has to contend with a struggling Nintendo that has almost relegated itself to niche status releasing gen old hardware.

Even "struggling" Nintendo would be able to compete with Sony.
As for the "outspending" game, Sony would not exist in a vacuum either. With MS out of the way, maybe Apple/Samsung/Google might give it a shot, who knows?

Now, imagine the opposite: a world where Sony consoles no longer exist. How likely is it that others would compete with MS?
 

Jonm1010

Banned
Exactly --"if true". Panicing at this point would be a waste of time if everything gets sorted out at launch.

The main reason I'm getting an Xbox One is due to it having games I'm interested in. Those should work at launch right? Or is there a new rumor that I missed? (haha)
Well If online is deeply broken presumably multiplayer is gonna suffer no? And it may be difficult to get game updates that fix bugs no?

If the online is this bad I find it hard to imagine that it won't affect a number of titles.
 
You know, in a way this is bad news for even us Sony fanboys. Healthy competition is good competition - the further Microsoft pushed the boundaries, the further Sony would, and vica versa. To hear yet another problem regarding the Xbone is definitely a little worrying. How is it now two of the big three have fallen so far out of line with today's core gamer?

I for one am scared of entering a generation with one clearcut winner - part of the reason this gen has had the diversity it has is because of the closeness in competition between the varying companies and the need to try outdo each other. What will happen without this?


The best way to promote healthy competition is to have someone play catchup. MS may have done a ton of 180's but they are still putting out a weaker console for $100 more. Don't expect that price to change anytime soon. MS is going to get that extra pound of flesh from all of the early adopters. Only through poor initial sales will MS lower its price since the way you combat the PS4 power advantage is with Price .

The Majority of people only buy 1 consoles so MS will do anything to try to gain market share next year if it needs to. They aren't going to roll over, but they also aren't going to provide any additional value unless it is forced to.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
Why are you trying to create equivalence that doesn't exist? The situations are only similar in that they're both launching consoles in the next month. There simply isn't the info backing up major issues around PS4's network at this point.

So only one console is being rushed? Heh, okay.How can I create equivalence when the equivalence is already (blatantly) there?

Anyway, I expected OS issues at launch on both systems before they were even revealed/announced. That's simply tech these days.

All I did was try to understand why this is more "controversial" than the typical issues at launch. That's all.
 

gaming_noob

Member
Look at it this way, my xbone brethren. Any publicity is good publicity. So come launch day, if things don't work as expected regarding XBL/OS issues then they'll get a ton of publicity!

Win-win situation for MS, I say.

I know you're joking but something good will (hopefully) come of this when they release their next next-gen console. Their division appears to still be restructuring including a CEO replacement coming up. The morons responsible for the planning and "market research" as well as competition research just wasted the last 3 years of R&D. I expect them to have at least better leadership and planning next time.
 

andycapps

Member
Exactly --"if true". Panicing at this point would be a waste of time if everything gets sorted out at launch.

The main reason I'm getting an Xbox One is due to it having games I'm interested in. Those should work at launch right? Or is there a new rumor that I missed? (haha)

Single player games should be fine. The question is how much they can fix in less than a month's time. That's just not a lot of time to go from multiple completely broken systems to rock solid. If you're getting an Xbone at launch, I'd prepare myself for some hiccups regarding the OS, parties, multiplayer, etc. If they get it sorted out in time for a launch day patch, then great.
 

Faustek

Member
First, sorry been away for a while. Got called in to a meeting but I got to yell at my closest "boss" and piss on his parade infront of the highest boss as well as thrown in a Churchill quote without that jackass getting it.


Give me a couple months to get launch out of the way. GAF is too stupid right now. I'll give you the biggest news you'll likely hear for a good few years then. Please be excited.


55 pages and Chinner makes more sense than all of you.

I'm abandoning my species and joining his.

But this g'damnit! Are you telling me Nintendo are finally revealing Zelda U? Majorask Mask HD? Or are you telling me that Sony finally got it's thumbs out of it's bum and are releasing The Last Guardian? Or the Fact that The Last Guardian is a lie?
 
I just can't really believe the system is as bad as described by the enthusiast press reporter. If I'm wrong then I made the wrong choice going with Xbox one over ps4.

When there's smoke, there's usually fire. Considering that the vast majority of xbox rumors this year have been spot on, I don't see why it's so surprising to believe these.

At this point, everyone's just waiting for someone to blow the lid on the latest batch of rumors, like game resolution, xbl issues...
 

Perkel

Banned
0 chance of them delaying the hardware launch. It would be a death blow to next gen aspirations for MS, worst PR nightmare ever, and stockholders would more likely than not ask for hired hits on whoever is in charge.

They already did that...

Xbox-One-Don-Matrick1.jpg


Who would they fire now ? There is no one currently that is responsible for Xbone..
 

Steroyd

Member
Look at it this way, my xbone brethren. Any publicity is good publicity. So come launch day, if things don't work as expected regarding XBL/OS issues then they'll get a ton of publicity!

Win-win situation for MS, I say.

That'd only work if that publicity doesn't tell people to stay the fuck away.

Exacerbated if Sony run into minimal problems.
 

Dragon

Banned
So only one console is being rushed? Heh, okay.How can I create equivalence when the equivalence is already (blatantly) there?

Anyway, I expected OS issues at launch on both systems before they were even revealed/announced. That's simply tech these days.

All I did was try to understand why this is more "controversial" than the typical issues at launch. That's all.

It's pretty clear that people expect features working on XBL now to work on XB1 and if they won't at launch, those are the issues that are being talked about. New issues like streaming/uploading video aren't as big of a deal because frankly they are new.
 
Any publicity is good publicity.

That is so wrong no matter how many times people repeat it. For some musician that just wants attention? Sure the bad attention of them smoking crack might be better than nothing, for a product (and a very well known brand), having bad things said about it? That's never good.
 
Is this "news" because it's worse than what's typically expected?

I think it's pretty obvious/blatant that both next gen consoles will have issues in this area at launch. Just trying to get/understand where the controversy (for lack of a better way to put it) is coming from.

To be fair, Sony did demo the PS4 UI on stage at Gamescom, and that was 2 months ago. So while both OS will be coming in at the last minute, only one of them has been shown live on a stage being demoed before.
 

Perkel

Banned
So what's the enthusiast press saying about this? Lemme guess.... flippin fuck-all?

They beat around bush for now. Few people mentioned they have something on their hands but they do not share anything for now.

And there is Kotaku dude who said in this thread : "Stay tuned" when he answered exactly the same question as yours.
 

E92 M3

Member
MS Engineers:
We still don't know if we can resolve these issues before launch. We need more time.

MS Suits:
You WILL get this fixed by launch if we have to tape your eyes open and work you in 36 hour shifts. We are launching on November 22nd, period.

The meddling from upper management is so obvious in this console. They were hell bent on launching with Sony when they clearly were not ready. I think this is going to be a mega PR disaster for them come November.

Yes, it's very unfortunate that the Xbone was designed by 15 different departments that each wanted a piece of the profits. In my dreams, J Allard returns, fires everyone responsible for this ass storm, and writes an apology letter to the fans.
 
I expected the XB1 and PS3 OSes to be superior compared to ps3 and 360. MS especially. They make them for a living. Missing/delayed features is one thing, broken is another. Nintendo is in their own stupid little no online multiplayer world. Anyways, with your logic, no one should discuss anything about a console they don't have.

Discuss and discuss away but what more is there to discuss really?
 

Des0lar

will learn eventually
That is so wrong no matter how many times people repeat it. For some musician that just wants attention? Sure the bad attention of them smoking crack might be better than nothing, for a product (and a very well known brand), having bad things said about it? That's never good.

It was also a joke
 
I've never seen a cboat 'megaton' I couldn't have guessed at
like 'xbox games will be lower resolution' (after ryse has been revealed as 900p mind you)
err obvious much? if 900p allows for ryse quality graphics why would they not use it most often? If they have a weaker system they have to make good looking games somehow.

Dude Ryse is made by Crytek

Different studios are capable of different things. Crytek built its business off creating amazing graphic engines and making hardware cry in the process. They are far more capable then Rare, for example.

On the Sony side, Naughty Dog and GG are probably the pinnacle of technical proficiency. They will almost always push systems further then anyone else. Polyphony and Santa Monica Studios are next in line I would say.

On the 2nd party side, it used to be Insomniac until they turned traitor ( j/k ) and it seems Quantic Dreams is moving along quite well technically.

With Sony though, the first party teams from what I have heard over the years, they do work together quite a bit and share tech and ideas and tricks. So in Sony's world anyway, you may not have a massive divide between one first party and the next, but overall you still have teams that are far more capable then others. I don't think Media Molecule, for example, could ever match up with Naughty Dog technically.
 

Crisco

Banned
Pretty bad if one of your major strengths vs the competition doesn't work at launch. So it's $100 more, crappier looking games, and the UI is a mess? No good. At least the PS3 had Blu-ray.
 
Exactly --"if true". Panicing at this point would be a waste of time if everything gets sorted out at launch.

The main reason I'm getting an Xbox One is due to it having games I'm interested in. Those should work at launch right? Or is there a new rumor that I missed? (haha)

Smartglass is borked so hope it isnt DR3.

And this is silly. Its rumour with good backing. Nobody is panicking but it has be repeated shown throughout this year that microsoft is unprepared, beating at a far different drum than 2005 and has a much different set of priorities.

So its fair to comment on how bad things have been. Regardless of where we are this time next year, this will now be the textbook example how NOT to develop, market and launch a games console/entertainment device.

No matter how quickly MS right the ship, its still the biggest clusterfuck in console history IMO.
 
Yes, it's very unfortunate that the Xbone was designed by 15 different departments that each wanted a piece of the profits. In my dreams, J Allard returns, fires everyone responsible for this ass storm, and writes an apology letter to the fans.

The direction MS has taken as a whole pretty much damns this dream for eternity. The Windows ecosystem has no room for J Allard's dream.
 
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