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Anyone considering AC4 on PC BEWARE! Yet another port with terrible optimization!

Sinatar

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It's a wonder developers even include graphics options in games anymore. People seem to refuse to use them and just instant go off in a huff if they can't run everything absolutely maxed out.

The game tesellates *E V E R Y T H I N G* on very high environmental detail. That requires ridiculous hardware to pull off, so just bloody turn it down. It's not an affront to your honor if you turn the option down.
 

Camp Lo

Banned
I get 40-60fps on "High", 30fps on Ultra until I'm in certain areas where I drop to 15-20. That said, loving the game.
 

Damian.

Banned
It's a wonder developers even include graphics options in games anymore. People seem to refuse to use them and just instant go off in a huff if they can't run everything absolutely maxed out.

The game tesellates *E V E R Y T H I N G* on very high environmental detail. That requires ridiculous hardware to pull off, so just bloody turn it down. It's not an affront to your honor if you turn the option down.

Even a 4960x@5ghz and Tri-SLI Titan system can't run this game maxed out at 60fps. It's a serious CPU optimization issue that needs to be fixed. This is not a case of CPU/GPU usage maxing out and getting framedrops.
 

Paradicia

Member
It's a wonder developers even include graphics options in games anymore. People seem to refuse to use them and just instant go off in a huff if they can't run everything absolutely maxed out.

The game tesellates *E V E R Y T H I N G* on very high environmental detail. That requires ridiculous hardware to pull off, so just bloody turn it down. It's not an affront to your honor if you turn the option down.

I don't even want to run this game maxed. My system wouldn't be able for it, but when it comes down to it struggles even on the normal/low settings. This isn't right because every game in my collection so far has no troubles running at medium to high settings at decent resolutions.
 

MaLDo

Member
It's a wonder developers even include graphics options in games anymore. People seem to refuse to use them and just instant go off in a huff if they can't run everything absolutely maxed out.

The game tesellates *E V E R Y T H I N G* on very high environmental detail. That requires ridiculous hardware to pull off, so just bloody turn it down. It's not an affront to your honor if you turn the option down.


AC IV doesn't have tessellation. Why so many people spread fabricated info?
 
Even a 4960x@5ghz and Tri-SLI Titan system can't run this game maxed out at 60fps. It's a serious CPU optimization issue that needs to be fixed. This is not a case of CPU/GPU usage maxing out and getting framedrops.

You have two choices. You can turn down the settings from Very High to High and play the game at 60 FPS or you can keep complaining about it on a message board while nobody does a thing about it. Ubisoft clearly demonstrated that they have no concern for this issue and it will most likely never be fixed.
 

Damian.

Banned
You have two choices. You can turn down the settings from Very High to High and play the game at 60 FPS or you can keep complaining about it on a message board while nobody does a thing about it. Ubisoft clearly demonstrated that they have no concern for this issue and it will most likely never be fixed.

Why can't I do both? I will keep playing the game and keep mocking and shaming incompetent devs hoping it eats into their sales enough that they will actually give a fuck.
 
I think I'll wait for a patch or two on this. Even at 1080p, detail and textures high and everything else off I can't get a solid 60 (i5-3570k, 670GTX), and an inconsistent framerate drives me nuts. I might have a go at setting my monitor to 144Hz and limiting the framerate to 48FPS to get a perfect sync (I'll die before I settle for 30 :p).

I just can't get over that hideous dithering effect. It looks like the beaming special effect from the original Star Trek series, and it makes for one really ugly game.
 

Zomba13

Member
I can't even get it to fucking install from Uplay.
Piece of shit. Why the fuck do they have their own distribution platform if it's not even going to bloody work? At least Origin lets me download things.
 
It doesn't look too great, agreed, especially with that weird effect on the vegetation as you rotate the camera. Everything looks so rough, even with 8x MSAA.

I'm having fun though. Just keeping it locked at 30 fps and not worrying about the rest too much.
 

fade_

Member
So is there any solution to the 30fps lock with v-sync? I'm running a titan with the newest drivers in w8 and when I force triple buffering through control panel or inspector I still get the same problem...
 

Damian.

Banned
What's this may I ask?

It's a RAR I made of my D3DOverrider folder. I made this some time ago for a Guru3d user that was having trouble getting his specific version of the program to work on Windows 8.


So is there any solution to the 30fps lock with v-sync? I'm running a titan with the newest drivers in w8 and when I force triple buffering through control panel or inspector I still get the same problem...

the TB setting in the NVCP doesn't do anything for Direct3D games, it's an OpenGL setting. You have to use D3DOverrider to fix the games broken V-Sync.
 
I have a pretty aged PC these days (Core2Quad, 4gb RAM, 560Ti) and I had no issues with ACII, AC:B, AC:R or even ACIII. I also had no problems with Far Cry 3 or Blood Dragon. They were all fine on my PC.

The recommended specs are still quite reasonable for this, even though I haven't bought it I'd be fairly confident that by the time it's on a Steam sale it'll work quite well for me. Perhaps it's because I tend not to buy these games at launch, but wait a couple of months. They're probably patched (mostly) by then anyway.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
So is there any solution to the 30fps lock with v-sync? I'm running a titan with the newest drivers in w8 and when I force triple buffering through control panel or inspector I still get the same problem...

that setting is for OpenGL only, you need to use D3Doverider, or if you want a newer program use radeonpro (it works on nvidia cards too) it has a setting for forcing tripple buffering.
 

wiggleb0t

Banned
1200p maxed out / GTX 780 / i5-2500k / barely 40 or 50 FPS.

Un. In. Stall.

Thanks but no thanks. Game did not even look especially impressive.

770Sli 3770k 4.7
2560x1440 downsampled to 1080p, everything maxxed 2xmsaa 50-60fps 90%+ gpu usage - so good sli scaling.

It's lol about the cpu usage, 90-100% on core 1.
20-40% on the rest of the 7 cores (hyper threading on)

Could look a lot nicer given the hardware required to run it. Still looks pretty though more room for improvement.
 

R1CHO

Member
Benchmark with fraps.

Running around and fighting some guys in the middle of Havana:

Frames: 4307 - Time: 112953ms - Avg: 38.131 - Min: 31 - Max: 47

The ship battle at the beginning of the game:

Frames: 4692 - Time: 136437ms - Avg: 34.389 - Min: 27 - Max: 54

Running through the jungle behind and fight with the assassin.

Frames: 5564 - Time: 183672ms - Avg: 30.293 - Min: 26 - Max: 44

The settings:

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EVERYTHING at maximum (but AA and with no Vsync whatsoever).

This is with a GTX660, again, a gpu similar to PS4's.

Why is this terrible optimization? Because it's not 60 fps? WTF! PS4 is 30 fps, i don't see a terrible port at all.
 

fade_

Member
the TB setting in the NVCP doesn't do anything for Direct3D games, it's an OpenGL setting. You have to use D3DOverrider to fix the games broken V-Sync.

that setting is for OpenGL only, you need to use D3Doverider, or if you want a newer program use radeonpro (it works on nvidia cards too) it has a setting for forcing tripple buffering.

Thanks alot guys. Thought d3doverrider was for AMD only for some reason. Works great now!
 
I don't know anything about D3Doverrider, only had my pc since August. Will this eliminate the crazy 60 plummet to 30 fps thing with no inbetween on vsync? Or get rid of the mass screentearing with vsync off?
 

R1CHO

Member
Open your eyes. The port is terrible because it does not properly utilize a multi-core system. The game was designed to work with 5 year old CPUs and dual core systems. It's a fucking joke.

Ok, old engine not very good usage of cpu, i get it.

And it may be a big bottleneck for people on the higher end side of things.

I wouldn't call it terrible but whatever.

What i am trying to say is that the game runs fine, at least on my pc, same or better graphical quality that ps4, similar performance... that's all.

It runs good on the city, better than AC3.
 

Bittercup

Member
I don't know anything about D3Doverrider, only had my pc since August. Will this eliminate the crazy 60 plummet to 30 fps thing with no inbetween on vsync? Or get rid of the mass screentearing with vsync off?
Yes, you should have no tearing and fps between 30 and 60.
Deactivate vsync in the game and force vsync and triple buffer with D3Doverrider instead.
 

Damian.

Banned
Ok, old engine not very good usage of cpu, i get it.

And it may be a big bottleneck for people on the higher end side of things.

I wouldn't call it terrible but whatever.

What i am trying to say is that the game runs fine, at least on my pc, same or better graphical quality that ps4, similar performance... that's all.

It runs good on the city, better than AC3.

To those without standards, anything that isn't GTAV levels of FPS probably does seem to run smooth. :D
 
Benchmark with fraps.

Running around and fighting some guys in the middle of Havana:



The ship battle at the beginning of the game:



Running through the jungle behind and fight with the assassin.



The settings:

itpVFPwnZpmdj.jpg


EVERYTHING at maximum (but AA and with no Vsync whatsoever).

This is with a GTX660, again, a gpu similar to PS4's.

Why is this terrible optimization? Because it's not 60 fps? WTF! PS4 is 30 fps, i don't see a terrible port at all.

It runs fine for me as well (780, i7-950) with txaa on. Not 60 fps but greater than 30. If people want 60fps turn down environment and use fxaa.
 
Hmmm I get about 20 more fps if I drop 1440p to 1080p which should mean GPU does matter somewhat.

Dunno man, I had it running at 1080p and there was some stuttering and FPS was dipping, I dropped to 900p same thing, dropped it all the way to 720p and still, same shit. I'm like no fuckin way, I put everything on low and still...

I put everything on high again and dropped the HBAO and magically the game run smooth as butter. I dunno wtf, but all my other games run fine on my old rig with HBAO on.
 

Gothos

Member
Just another example why most of us should stop buying games on Day-1. Rome II taught me that lesson - never again!
 
I don't get why people say Ubi ports are that bad. I've never had problems with AC games and they were without fail some of the best looking games I played on PC in the year they came out. AC3 I couldn't max out, but that's fine cause my rig isn't top of the line.

Far Cry 3 I could run almost at max, SC: Blacklist fully maxed, the Rayman games obviously didn't give me any problems.

Guess I'll wait and see with AC4, but I expect I'll manage just fine.
 
Should be no problem leaving it open. For me only fraps got in the way.

Just had a quick shot man, and that seems to be working great, definitely alot smoother and way above 30fps. Does d3D have an actual fps counter I can pull up though, so I can tweak around a little, since I can't boot fraps right now. Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it ha.
 

hlhbk

Member
I don't get why people say Ubi ports are that bad. I've never had problems with AC games and they were without fail some of the best looking games I played on PC in the year they came out. AC3 I couldn't max out, but that's fine cause my rig isn't top of the line.

Far Cry 3 I could run almost at max, SC: Blacklist fully maxed, the Rayman games obviously didn't give me any problems.

Guess I'll wait and see with AC4, but I expect I'll manage just fine.

If I turn off the next gen features there is no reason I shouldn't able to run this at 60 FPS on my rig.
 

RankFTW

Unconfirmed Member
I must be in the minority because I'm playing this game at 1440p with all but 2 settings maxed and it's a constant 55-60 fps, runs way better than ACIII.
 
I must be in the minority because I'm playing this game at 1440p with all but 2 settings maxed and it's a constant 55-60 fps, runs way better than ACIII.

Well my problem was it wouldn't do 55. Its either 60, or if it drops even slightly, it just drops all the way to 30 and locks, all or nothing. D3D overrider seems to have solved it. If the vsync stuff was normal, I'd be fairly happy but I didn't want to play at a) 30fps every time the game dropped to say 58fps, or b) play with massive massive screentearing while vsync is off.
 

JackHerer

Member
My rig has a gtx 690 and i7 and I can confirm that the optimization is poor. One of the most taxing features seems to be the HBAO+. Turning it from low to high drops an average of 10 fps.

Granted I play at 2560x1600, but I doubt that even in 1080p I could run the game at 60fps with everything maxed. Right now I'm getting about 45-55 fps with environment detail on high, and HBAO+ (low). Everything else is maxed (no AA). It's acceptable but I should but running a stable 60 fps easy considering that this game doesn't look that good.
 

wiggleb0t

Banned
My rig has a gtx 690 and i7 and I can confirm that the optimization is poor. One of the most taxing features seems to be the HBAO+. Turning it from low to high drops an average of 10 fps.

If you're not and same applies to everyone in this thread sporting Nvidia make sure you're using latest drivers 331.82: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_331_82_whql_driver_download.html

It's not going to fix miracles, though at least it's released with AC in mind along with sli profile for AC. Since you've got a sli card it's utilizing SLI near perfectly with 95% usage on both gpus.
 

fade_

Member
Titan and 3770k on w8 with the latest nvidia drivers, get between 45-60 fps in Havana so far with everything on max 1080p.
 
GTX 670 (4GB)
8GB RAM
i5 3570k
1920x1080p (distance such that no AA = OKish)

How do you think it would run?

(Would love a demo....)
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
GTX 670 (4GB)
8GB RAM
i5 3570k
1920x1080p (distance such that no AA = OKish)

How do you think it would run?

(Would love a demo....)

Leave HBAO off and set environmental detail to high instead of very high and you'll have no problems.
 
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