Yeah This has been making waves with the streamers I watch every day like Swiftor, and RSQViper and MANvsGame. It's terrible that they've done this because all of the viewers are not at the same delay so when something big happens on stream, there are multiple waves of reactions. It totally sucks and I hope that they roll back or improve it in some way.
Seems like Twitch can do no right lately
I use the iOS app most nights and that has always had the 30 second delay going on so I am kind of used to it, but it's horrible for people who want to talk to the caster like they used too.
LethalFrag and ManVsGame seemed to be pretty niffed by it.
The new system does have a larger inherent latency then RTMP, but for the vast, vast majority of viewers it should be less than 45 seconds as long as they are not buffering after stream start. For most, it will be significantly better than that.
I can't imagine this benefits them. Why would someone sub with no interaction?
I haven't watched ManVsGame in awhile, but I can imagine he's losing his shit over it, and rightly so. He is the best caster on Twitch, and his show highlighted the potential of Twitch. This basically kills his cast.
What? Are they talking about the app?Let's start at the beginning. Twitch states that they are experiencing explosive growth which has been compounded by the service's release on Xbox 360 and Xbox One, as well as its impending release on PlayStation 4.
"Now for the effects. For large, commentary-based streams like eSports and large sponsored show there will be no immediate effect. Since there's no direct interaction between the broadcaster and the Twitch chat there's no need to worry about delay."
Anyone who's watched competitive gaming on a stream knows that this is about as far from true as it can be. It's like a crowd not being able to cheer for a minute after the a touchdown is scored.
What? Are they talking about the app?
No, they won't. They've had terrible quality-of-service in Europe for years straight and they've left obvious bugs unattended for long periods of time as well (some of them not even fixed yet) despite numerous complaints. Twitch management is utterly incompetent.You don't think that Twitch will listen to partner complaints more than Google? The interaction on Twitch is more important than youtube in my opinion.
This news post is full of somewhat-hyperbolic negativity and says nothing of the benefits the move to HLS brings.
Posts are full of hyperbolic negativity because Twitch has a stellar track record when it comes to not solving their widely-known problems, no matter how many years down the line. So all those benefits are ultimately only in theory for that site in particular, because whoever's running the place will find a way to screw things up yet again. At least they're using millions of dollars of investment money from outside sources to slowly choke themselves out though.Interesting comment thread from r/starcraft for those that would like to know more about the switch to HLS:
http://reddit.com/r/starcraft/comme...ate_imposes_delay_of_up_to_60s_in_all/ce5vn93
anti-consumer
If you're big enough, a good alternative is to set up a Steam group and just use the group chat function.
I'm starting to get tired of this word. It gets thrown around a lot and not always appropriately. For some it basically applies to anything a company does that they don't like. I'm not saying it doesn't apply here, but it's definitely a buzzword now.
Um I don't know what stream you're watching but from what I've observed, Twitch chats are usually decent. Especially if they are well moderated.
They expanded too quickly before getting their technical house in order, so they had to drop the quality of their service as a result; they figured it was better to make the experience worse for every single person who uses their service than give up the chance for more money.What is twitch.tv thinking?
The 15 second delay was bad enough, but a whole minute?
What is twitch.tv thinking?
2 or 3 years ago.When did streaming start being a trend? I haven't watched a single game on Twitch but I feel like I'm the only one.