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New previews for Dark Souls II
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SeventhSon
Member
From my point of view, that's the game working properly by matching up PvPers. That is, players don't just casually, for larks, invade. They are almost always players with very specific PvP bulids attempting to gank less experienced/geared players. The occasions when an invader encounters a host and phantoms waiting for him is simply matching up players with the same intention of fighting other players.
This is why I wish the PvP was either more specifically focused on matching up players who really want to PvP (PvP Arena, or the matchmaking matched invaders in a "neutral ground" zone), or there were more "built in" reasons for players to compete, such as some event or objective in the campaign that causes players to fight, so that you get "normal" players fighting, sort of like Old Monk, if that makes any sense.
It really was. Come on, dude. You can't be serious. And it does make sense. Just like you could summon your buddy Solaire over and over, you should be able to summon XXXDarkNinjaBladeSwagXXX multiple times.
The lore doesn't state that phantoms are mutes. In all seriousness though, I wouldn't like regular voice chat in Dark Souls either. It's a game that benefits from its atmosphere and the feeling of being lonely in this dangerous world. But the fact that it's not there unless you wear a ring makes it totally fine, since it won't have any impact on people who want to play the game like they're used to.
It really seems like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.
Deified Data
Banned
Oh shit, really? When was this announced? I must have missed it.
i like this screenshot:
voice chat, fast travel and coop with friends is bs imo.
Yeesh. That is either compressed to shit or a PS2 version.
All the official DS screenshots have terrible compression for some reason.
It was in the beta IIRC.
Deified Data
Banned
Cool, thanks.
Well, there is a covenant for people who like invading and there is a covenant for people who like defending the helpless and killing invaders.
Who knows about the other covenants, From has said they want to encourage roleplaying. There's also the covenant that is the equivalent of Forest Hunters from DS1.
Eventually the community will probably regulate the level range and places where to pvp and everyone will know about it.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Errr what? She elaborates and explains why she's wary of these things. You might not agree with her and that's cool, but she's not just saying "this sucks". Come on.
More like "I am concerned about a few things and here's why". Did you even read the article?
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
She thinks Peter Serafinowicz being a voice actor in the game somehow equals From selling out with celebrity endorsements. Enough said.
Most of the core "concerns" were already elaborated on in this thread, so the clickbait article is not worth anyone's time.
H_Prestige
Banned
I don't like the voice chat ring. I don't like the idea of other players chatting with each other. These games are about unspoken communication.
Yes, I don't want options in this game. Everyone should have the same experience, which is to say, the right experience. Voice chat is completely counter to the spirit of these games and was left out intentionally, not through accident. Poor move on From's part.
Yes, I don't want options in this game. Everyone should have the same experience, which is to say, the right experience. Voice chat is completely counter to the spirit of these games and was left out intentionally, not through accident. Poor move on From's part.
Northern Lights
Banned
Environments look the same this time around there will be some new locations.
What about party chat on the 360? People probably did that in Dark Souls. Not a part of the game's design, but it's essentially the same thing as having chat in the game.
eot
Banned
I don't play on 360 but I thought the game prevents you from being in a party?
H_Prestige
Banned
I thought party chat was disabled?
I completely agree, but I guess if players want to chat with each other (But it in no way hinders my solo experience...in other words, I cannot hear them), then...meh.
If they had different difficulties, then that would be terrible.
Couldn't have said it better.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Voice chat with a bud is perfectly fine. I just hope I can mute other folks. I don't want to hear ANYONE else coming through my tv. Not "Yo, you gotta mic?", "LAG, LAG, LAG! That's bullshit" nor "Praise the sun!". NOTHING!
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Ugh. People used Skype and hid in a weird place that only their friends could find when Dark Souls 1 was released. FROM is just acknowledging the fact that people were using the workaround and it's up to you to use it. Get over yourself.
Poimandres
Member
Burial, the fantastic musician, posted a message saying he may release new tunes this year but may not have time because he needs to play a lot of Dark Souls 2. I know that feeling!
If people use Skype, let them use Skype. You don't need to encourage it and put it in the game. Worked wonders for Diablo 3 and the real money auction house though, that option certainly didn't affect the game in a negative manner.
I don't think it's a huge deal, but I do think it's a negative and a bad sign that they put it in just because people wanted it to be a more traditional co-op game. I most certainly don't want it to be a more traditional co-op game, and I think giving in to those requests was a bad move and it doesn't inspire confidence for other decisions for this game (like fast travel from the start) or future games yet to come.
eot
Banned
Wow at the backlash for a voice chat ring and friend summoning lol.
Seem like good changes to me, although I'll never voice chat with randoms.
Being able to play with a friend easier doesn't suddenly make it a more typical coop game. You still have to beat everything in your own world. I like playing with friends sometimes and it's a pain in the ass and a waste of time in the first game.
Seem like good changes to me, although I'll never voice chat with randoms.
Being able to play with a friend easier doesn't suddenly make it a more typical coop game. You still have to beat everything in your own world. I like playing with friends sometimes and it's a pain in the ass and a waste of time in the first game.
Dwight Schrute
Member
WAIT there is a ring for psn/xbl friend summon and one for friend chat ?!
TheCongressman1
Member
Party chat was but not private chat.
Garcia
Member
For those who are against the implementation of Fast Travel from the beginning, go play La Mulana and check out how wonderfully it works when implemented the right way. It doesn't hurt the game one bit and it is the best incentive a designer can give to the player who wants to experiment with a trial and error approach. You really enjoy exploring every corner of the world and you actually feel pushed into further discovering new secrets.
That very feature has pushed me further into pre-ordering Dark Souls 2.
That very feature has pushed me further into pre-ordering Dark Souls 2.
I will be summoning my friends and use voice chat with them.
And summon 1 invader with all friends in.
You would want to break your screen after the 50th time hearing the same drivel.
Can you imagine hearing Capra or O&S saying the same quotes over and over?
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I just don't get why it's a problem or why people are getting upset. It's an option that you can use if you choose to. I love that you're on your own and working your way through the world and I imagine that most times people won't be talking anyways. I sure as hell won't be using chat unless I'm playing with a friend in which case I would be using skype. It's just removing an annoyance.
I don't think that telling someone to get over themselves when they get on a high horse and dictate how to people should play a game the right way is an insult.
super-famicom
Member
I don't like the idea of the voice chat ring, feels like FROM just gave in to demand. It goes against the experience of a Souls game, in my opinion.
Oh man, I can see it now.
Capra Demon: FRESH MEAT! x 50
Oh man, I can see it now.
Capra Demon: FRESH MEAT! x 50
ShockingAlberto
Member
I feel like, if anyone is allowed to decide what FROM intends with the Souls games, it is probably FROM.
Demon's Souls practically have fast travel from the start, but since it's a hub world, I guess that's understandable. Still, it saves you from unnecessary backtracking. In DeS, when you want to go to 1-1 from 1-3, you will use archstone right? Not traversing through the wall and all the goddamned enemies again.
Also I hope that voice chat is only enabled when you wear the ring. I don't want my game ruined by incoherent rambling and shrieking when invaded.
Also I hope that voice chat is only enabled when you wear the ring. I don't want my game ruined by incoherent rambling and shrieking when invaded.
H_Prestige
Banned
Realistically very few people would be using Skype together. If there's an in game item then that changes things drastically. It would just be a weird feeling getting summoned into a world with two other players who are obviously talking with each other while you are the odd man out. I like the feeling in Dark Souls that every one is literally on the exact same page.
And while we're talking about questionable changes, I still don't think warping right from the beginning is a good move. It will remove all of the tension from traveling far from home. Blighttown wouldn't have been the same experience if you could just warp out whenever you wanted. Part of the insanity of that whole place was knowing that the only way to get back to Firelink was to keep pushing forward.
Primethius
Banned
Used skype on 360 when playing Dark Souls so I could chat with my buddies. I don't mind the option at all, especially since I only ever intend to coop with my friends.
Sanctuary
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9n01J8_kws
Beginning of the end. I'm not completely opposed to repsecs in all games, but for a series that has gameplay based off of the pre-regenerating health bars and respec nonsense, this isn't good. Unless you can only do it once per character, but even then it's still a bit much. It's not even that you can either use it or not use it, it's the fact that it's pandering and in the game.
Nemesis was the aspect that I thought was totally contrived in RE3 and also why I didn't really like that game. It wasn't "scary", it was annoying.
Garcia
Member
Seems like you're selectively forgetting about Homeward Bones and their ability to take you out of any uncomfortable situation you were put in. Blightown was my favorite part in the whole game because of what you mentioned. It's not fast travel what hurts a game of this nature, it is terrible bonfire(checkpoint) placing.
Sanctuary
Member
Many people love to claim how much harder Dark Souls was than Demon's, but the bonfires always made it seem much easier to me, regardless of whether or not a boss might be slightly harder. It was overall just much easier to get back to your bloodstain, especially with the connected design that had shortcuts.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Good points. I get where you're coming from now. I apologize for saying "get over yourself". I get a bit rash when people start talking about the souls series and playing the game the right way.
H_Prestige
Banned
The homeward bone wouldn't do you any good if you already rested at the bonfire inside blighttown.
SeventhSon
Member
You couldn't get stuck in Valley of Defilement. You could always use the archstone to return to the Nexus and go somewhere.
You could get actually stuck down in Blighttown with no way out but through.
Sanctuary
Member
How does one get "stuck" in Blighttown? It's one of the more tedious areas when you're going through it from the start, but there's only one section where the only way to go is down, and it's only a small section. I don't recall ever being stuck anywhere in Dark Souls. How many people actually replay the game without the Master Key anyway after their first time?
Besides that, there is still more than a single bonfire in Blighttown. I was commenting on how much easier it was to get back to your bloodstain anyway, not how quickly you could leave an area (which you could at any time anyway with the Homeward miracle or bone).
Well, there were two bosses that spoke to you in Demon's Souls (
Maiden Astraea and the real Allant
Miralda
H_Prestige
Banned
Don't forget Smough's laughing. My mind was blown when I found out about that.
TheCongressman1
Member
I agree. My love of Dark Souls has a lot to do with that tension.
Being able to warp isn't bad, but being able to do it freely any time before even halfway through is way too early. Unless of course there is a penalty or a limit to warping, which could work well with the tension. I'd much rather this be the case.