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Performance Analysis: Assassin's Creed Unity (Digital Foundry)
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Neither are PCs or X1s. ;p
Yeah, this shouldn't be happening in any way on the PS4 version at all, considering that it's more powerful than Xbox One is.
Ubisoft have clearly sold themselves out to Microsoft on this title.
You can't be serious with this statement.
freenudemacusers
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well i'm not a technical person but isn't that like 10% more IQ vs 50% more makeup? I just think for open world games, which i like, the xbox is a better bet.
Glorified G
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SRTtoZ
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I didnt realize how many bugs are in this game and how often they appear. Watching Angryjoe stream for 10-20 minutes now and it seems like weird glitches EVERYWHERE, every few minutes, whether its climbing, combat, just walking around, etc. Even the death animations are glitchy! (Hes playing the PC version)
gundamkyoukai
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IQ is control by the gpu not the cpu .
PS4 will have better looking games don't matter what type of game it is once devs use the extra power.
markedbravado
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HA! Omg just stop trolling already. Jesus.
He's a joke poster
Muppet of a Man
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You're in luck. The PS4 GPU has approximately double the GPGPU compute power when compared to X1's GPU. When devs finally decide to use compute on GPUs, the performance gulf between PS4 and X1 will be significantly in PS4's favor in most situations.
I don't think you understand how insignificant a 10% cpu boost is on these cpu's. The upclock was a PR move and an attempt to close a significant gap between the two systems. What other open-world games have you seen to make you think this?
Why do people continuously charge that MS had something to do with Ubi's incompetence? All versions of the game seem like a hot mess. Maybe they put more effort to get the Xbox One up to snuff, but that doesn't really mean MS was literally paying them to do it or whatever.
Neuromancer
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Bam Bam Baklava
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It's also PS4 lead platform unlike AC Unity. Don't worry.
This coming from a guy who hopes Xbone is close to matching PS4 since I'm getting it on there.
DOWN
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I'm a little concerned with Rockstar having said that they have parity
killatopak
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uh oh.
Vroadstar
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Wow 10% or less upclock and now it's got a MORE powerful CPU and all that just based on ONE game which are both terrible, performance wise on both consoles...... meanwhile a 40% advantage on the other hand is called "slightly"
Vroadstar
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Here you go, this will help.... please take note of the keyword "g-e-n-e-r-a-l"
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Except that you can't use a GPU for CPU tasks.. (not all tasks, some are suited )so in one or more areas it won't help. But for GPU specific tasks, PS4 should be better, depends on the engine and time the dev puts in.
Phat Michael
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That's kind of funny.
OccamsLightsaber
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Deaf Spacker
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Do people honestly believe that Microsoft paid Ubisoft to gimp the Playstation 4 version of Assassin's Creed: Unity?
I know how this works
not all tasks.. also my remark for a dev taking time You have to write your code different. Which means you have to adjust your workflow. Which can be a big undertaking, we won't see BIG uses of GPGPU for atleast 2-3 years but maybe even longer.
You read up on what it takes to make a game, than come back.
Watch Dogs looked pretty nice, though, and delivered a very stable 30 fps with excellent motion blur.
Omnipunctual Godot
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He edited it from an earlier post, which said something along the lines of "There is no excuse for this."
markedbravado
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I know how this works
You have to write your code different. Which means you have to adjust your workflow. Which can be a big undertaking, we won't see BIG uses of GPGPU for atleast 2-3 years but maybe even longer.
You read up on what it takes to make a game, than come back.
Well that wouldn't be a problem for a team of 10,000. Shit is, MS pushed the narrative and parity was forced. No time to optimize on the Sony end. They spent more time on the weaker hardware and it shows. For u to continue to insist that its a huge effort to use the GPGPU is quite hilarious. 2-3 years, haha just stop.
GHG
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Here's the thing...
The game is supposedly CPU bound on consoles.
If that is the case and the PS4's GPU is 40-50% more powerful than the GPU in the XB1 then if they had increased the resolution to 1080p on the PS4 there would be minimal difference in performance compared to what it is now at 900p.
So the question is, why did they not at least increase the resolution on the PS4 considering the performance is piss poor at 900p anyway?
The game is supposedly CPU bound on consoles.
If that is the case and the PS4's GPU is 40-50% more powerful than the GPU in the XB1 then if they had increased the resolution to 1080p on the PS4 there would be minimal difference in performance compared to what it is now at 900p.
So the question is, why did they not at least increase the resolution on the PS4 considering the performance is piss poor at 900p anyway?
It would mean a even bigger undertaking... getting everyone aligned in such a big company. The bigger the companies the slower it all goes, maybe small teams have more luck.
Ill talk to you in 2-3 years.
freefornow
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I would of thought that these sorts of statements would need supporting evidence.
Pretty bold claim.
JeffG
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Probably never for multi-plats.
It would add complications when developing across platforms. Way easier to treat the XBone and PS4's as PC's and not do anything specific.
alexandros
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Probably.
markedbravado
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All it takes is for 1 game to come out and put the industry on its knees in terms of technical performance. Gears of War did it when it debut on 360. Then Uncharted 2 set that benchmark along with God of War 3. I have a feeling Uncharted 4 will do the same at 1080p/60fps. Once it drops, no way will u see 3rd party developers put out games that won't compete with its performance. These guys have egos and too much pride. They will utilize the GPGPU. Who knows, maybe Sony will send their x team next time to help out haha.
Nope. When GPGPU compute starts to become a trend in game development, you'll realise that Sony are the forward thinkers here
markedbravado
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Let alone where the franchise happens to sell more units on. AC sold more on PS than Xbox if i am not mistaken. They rushed it out for the holidays.
How many movies have you watched with a variable frame-rate?
El-Pistolero
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Garbage on all fronts, and it is going to sell like hot cakes. Just depressing...
Net_Wrecker
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Mark Cerny specifically talked about aspects like GPGPU not having a huge impact until year 3 or 4 of the console. It's not going to happen as quickly as you think.
I'll leave this here https://account.xbox.com/gameclip/e16edbc8-a184-485f-8985-7f05d777b63b?gamertag=FbtmoPenguins&scid=03a80100-9ff3-46ea-be76-e00e7fe465df but yeah the game is just not running so admirably on either of these consoles for there to be a discussion of Xbones CPU being the reason it runs a little less shitty because it's running pretty bad regardless.
PS4 pushes ahead in cutscenes, where CPU isn't pushed as much as in the gameplay. Expected. However, I didn't figure the extra 175MHz on XB1's CPU would make for a huge difference--if that is indeed the reason behind the "better" performance.
I read in the article that Microsoft could possibly have a better compiler. How much of a difference could that make, realistically?
I read in the article that Microsoft could possibly have a better compiler. How much of a difference could that make, realistically?
Panajev2001a
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True, it also matches the result of those Ubisoft tests, but it does seem weird considering other developers's comments about both CPU's in the past and both consoles's draw call cost (see Witcher 3 Tech Lead interview and earlier Bink benchmarks for example) which would count when you are dealing with lots of objects and would help the slower CPU.
Still their AI and animation code is probably the big decided there.
What about the rooftop scenes though? Open vistas with a much reduced NPC count...
KratosEnergyDrink
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I read once that the PS4 has 4.5 GB RAM for games and the XOne 5 GB, the rest of the memory is reserved for the OS.
Under some circumstances developer could use more RAM on PS4, but they can never rely on using more than 4.5 GB.
Taken together with the faster CPU of the XOne this would explain the performance difference.
Under some circumstances developer could use more RAM on PS4, but they can never rely on using more than 4.5 GB.
Taken together with the faster CPU of the XOne this would explain the performance difference.