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DRIVECLUB |OT2| You Can't Rush Evolution

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SeeNoWeevil

Member
I still don't really understand drift scoring. I *think* it's wheel speed x slip angle, as I seem to score much lower if I do more controlled drifts in contrast to mashing the throttle and lighting the rears up.

Doing the Merc drift event in the latest DLC last night, really struggling in the AMG saloon, drifts were good on almost every turn but still falling short by at least a thousand points. Got in the AMG GT, did a sloppy as hell run and hit the requirement straight away!! Very odd.
 
Melchiah

Melchiah

Member
nib95 said:
Sense of speed just isn't nearly as impressive in exterior view, doesn't feel as immersive either. I'm more of a dash cam guy myself, but switch to bonnet cam and cockpit depending on mood, event and vehicle (some cars have stunning cockpits lol), chase cam only for drift events.
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I tend to use the first person view exclusively for the immersion and feel of speed, even for drift events. I guess I should try if I get better scores in drifting with chase cam though. So far the 1st rankings, and most of the 2nd ones as well, have been out of reach for me.
 
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nib95

Banned
Melchiah said:
I tend to use the first person view exclusively for the immersion and feel of speed, even for drift events. I guess I should try if I get better scores in drifting with chase cam though. So far the 1st rankings, and most of the 2nd ones as well, have been out of reach for me.
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I find drift events so much easier in chase cam. I've won quite a few drift challenges using it so it. I just find it's easier to keep an eye on your positioning and degree of traction compared to the other views.
 
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#1 defender

Member
Awesome, got 585/585 stars, first time i got 100% since i bought the game! The last 3 events i had to do were the two VUHL ones and Dusk 'til Dawn. The VUHL time trial was pretty infuriating until i just started taking corners very slowly, the short VUHL tour wasn't too bad. I actually beat Dusk 'til Dawn on my first try today, after 3-4 unsuccessful attempts over the last week. Well, i only came in 2nd, since i didn't want to risk making a mistake while trying to catch up to the Pagani Zonda in front of me, so i just defended my 2nd place for half the race while driving conservatively, but i was happy all the same. And as it turned out, i'm in good company on the leaderboards:

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Also, to anyone sill having problems with Venom Hot Lap 2, keep at it! I think HL2 is quite a bit more forgiving than HL1, just have a look at this clip of when i got the final star on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd7OWKpYzA8

As you can see, my driving in this clip is really sloppy, i botched a bunch of easy corners that i can normally hit much better (especially the first one), but still managed to catch up and overtake the ghost in the last third of the lap with proper throttle control in the corners, even though my lines were all over the place. I was actually surprised i still made it. I think HL1 had much less margin for error. If you beat that, you can easily do HL2. If you're getting frustrated, just take a break and come back another day, that often does wonders.

Unrelated to that, check out this funny stunt that happened to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZA9sHNpLI

I play single races in cockpit view, but i'm using chase cam while going after tour stars, don't judge me. ;(
 
Melchiah

Melchiah

Member
nib95 said:
I find drift events so much easier in chase cam. I've won quite a few drift challenges using it so it. I just find it's easier to keep an eye on your positioning and degree of traction compared to the other views.
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I'm taking a breather for now, but I'll definitely try the chase cam for drift events once the new tours and cars are available.
 
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mangochutney

Member
CLR_CMOS I demand you post a video of where you're deploying KERS in the C-X75 on Sentraltind. The time gap is just too much. I am struggling to make any time up and I have a lot of fastest times on that track.
 
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kie25

Member
I've just been going for venom hot lap 2 world record using a wheel which trust me is hard, my old time if 1.16.6 was using pad and external cam, decided to go hardcore and use wheel and dash cam managed to get 2nd in world and a 1.16.3, hopefully get into the 1.15s soon as I should done it a few goes. I'm uploading video now I'll share link when finished.
 
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bananafactory

Banned
kie25 said:
I've just been going for venom hot lap 2 world record using a wheel which trust me is hard, my old time if 1.16.6 was using pad and external cam, decided to go hardcore and use wheel and dash cam managed to get 2nd in world and a 1.16.3, hopefully get into the 1.15s soon as I should done it a few goes. I'm uploading video now I'll share link when finished.
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God damn dude you are a legend.
 
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>-Baron-Spamedi-<

Member
Anybody know if Evolution have any plans to purge the World Leaderboards?

I really can't see the point in even having leaderboards if so many of them are going to be topped by glitched/cheated times.
 
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DHC-Shannow

Member
benzy said:
Imagine if Evo had you set the times for upcoming dlc tour events. People will break their controllers.



Where are you seeing glitch/cheated times?
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I wonder how Evo do set the challenge times - is it just the AI doing the course on different difficulty levels to give the 1,2 & 3 stars? I wonder how the AI driving lines are set too - could be that their done by analysis (computer repeatedly drives the lap and eventually finds the quickest way) or by calculation.
 
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>-Baron-Spamedi-<

Member
benzy said:
Imagine if Evo had you set the times for upcoming dlc tour events. People will break their controllers.



Where are you seeing glitch/cheated times?
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Yesterday I looked on some of the leaderboards for the times for some of the races in the basic tour. Quite often at the top there would be times 2, 3 or even 4 minutes faster than the majority of the rest of the times.
 
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kie25

Member
There are bugged times all over leaderboards but rushy is aware of these and they are going to delete all of them :) there on the new dlc as well if you look at the midnight dusk till dawn event I should be on top with a 12.12 or summit, however there are a few above new on 4mins ha. It's not that they glitches the times it's a bug within the game.
 
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Shaneus

Member
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Thing is, I can see about another half a second I could shave off of it. But nerves and frustration stopped me from doing better this time around. I might give it another go down the track with no pressure and see how I do.

Fuck that was fun, though! Now I can finally complete the rest of the DLC (that's the thing about wanting to complete everything consecutively!).

Edit: PS, bumper cam all the way. Have such a better indication of how quickly/slowly the car moves through corners. I'm even noticing that I'm doing a lot of weight transfer-type maneuvers just because it feels right with that POV. Don't really get that with any of the others (with the exception of the in-car ones, I guess.
 
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DHC-Shannow

Member
kie25 said:
There are bugged times all over leaderboards but rushy is aware of these and they are going to delete all of them :) there on the new dlc as well if you look at the midnight dusk till dawn event I should be on top with a 12.12 or summit, however there are a few above new on 4mins ha. It's not that they glitches the times it's a bug within the game.
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I've had the issue with a challenge I put out based on the night lights tour event - The actual challenge is for 4 laps around Kobago with the Atom (there's 2 of us with times in the 6 minute range) yet for anyone doing it now the number of laps is set to 1. I get lots of single lap race challenges which make me think this is an ongoing issue.
 
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Rushy

Member
All of the details for update 1.12

The eagerly awaited Replay feature, big changes to Drift Mode and the Ferrari 599XX Evoluzione are the headlines, along with the Lamborghini Expansion Pack, plus many more improvements based on your continued feedback - so please keep it coming!

Full details of Update 1.12:

» Adds Replays to the game for all Single Events and Tours. You can now save a Replay at the end of any single player event and view it later from the Replays section.
» Photomode can be used from within a Replay at any point.
» Introduces a new Driver Level 50 reward: You can now unlock the Ferrari 599XX Evoluzione for your Garage!
» Refines Drift Mode scoring to increase the points scored for momentum, control and staying on the track.
» Adjusts the drag reduction when veering off road, so that accidentally leaving the track slows you down more gradually.
» Adjusts the drag penalty on world collisions, to remove the possibility of gaining any advantage after colliding with a wall.
» Adds the option to control screen brightness in-game (new Display Option).
» Adds the option to change the volume levels on individual SFX channels (new Audio options in Settings).
» Adds the option to make the AI opponents in a Single Event drive in the same car as the one the player chooses.
» Adds the option to select factory paint jobs for AI opponents (new Display Option).
» Removes the voicechat icon for any player you have chosen to mute in Multiplayer while you are driving.
» Adds new categories for downloaded Livery Packs within the Bonus Designs in Customisation.
» Adds status information about friends playing DRIVECLUB™ to the Social Hub.
» Immediately centres the camera view behind the car automatically whenever you reset to the track.
» Adds support for live streaming via Twitch and Ustream while playing Multiplayer.
» Improves the atmospheric visual effects further by improving heathaze and introducing mirages, which are visible on the road when light is refracted by hot air.
» Includes more minor bug fixes, performance improvements and usability tweaks.

Update 1.12 Add-ons (coming to PlayStation®Store March 24-26):

» Adds support for the Peugeot Onyx Concept, coming to PlayStation®Store as a free download.
» Adds support for the Lamborghini Expansion Pack, coming to PlayStation®Store as a premium/Season Pass add-on.
» The Lamborghini Car Pack includes: Lamborghini Aventador LP 720-4 50° Anniversario, Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4, Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Squadra Corse and Lamborghini Veneno.
» The Lamborghini Tour Pack includes 10 new Events and 5 new Trophies.
» Adds support for the Pacesetter Tour Pack, coming to PlayStation®Store as a premium/Season Pass add-on.
» The Pacesetter Tour Pack includes 12 new Events and 5 new Trophies.
» Adds support for 2 new livery packs, coming to PlayStation®Store as a premium/Season Pass add-on. Each Livery Pack contains 5 new livery patterns to customise your cars with.

Important developments to be aware of (coming after 1.12):

» Continual server upgrades: to keep improving online stability and performance for all current players and to enable the
release of the PS+ Edition and DRIVECLUB companion app.
» Private lobbies: Development of Private Lobbies for Multiplayer is ongoing alongside development of server improvements.
» Replays for Multiplayer races: these require further development and testing and will come in a future game update.
» Lots more cars: We're only half way through the Season Pass that runs to July and we have many more commonly requested cars and manufacturers coming to DRIVECLUB!
» New ranks: because many of you are at Level 50 already. In the mean time, please enjoy exclusive access to the Ferrari 599XX Evoluzione as a reward for your dedication and success.
» Additional audio options for cockpit camera.
» Lots more! Please keep sharing your feedback about DRIVECLUB with us to help the game continue to evolve around you.
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kie25

Member
Just look at the update list, evo in my view are the best developers in gaming, the support they have given Driveclub is amazing.
 
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boredandlazy

Member
nib95 said:
I find drift events so much easier in chase cam. I've won quite a few drift challenges using it so it. I just find it's easier to keep an eye on your positioning and degree of traction compared to the other views.
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I do all drift events in chase cam, it's just much easier to keep track of where exactly your car is.
 
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Denur

Member
Another great update. Really looking forward to the replays.

@Rushy:
I understand that it is easier to play DriveClub with a controller than with a wheel. Is that by design or more of an unfortunate coincidence? Are there plans to even-out the playing field for wheel players?
 
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mangochutney

Member
Denur said:
Another great update. Really looking forward to the replays.

@Rushy:
I understand that it is easier to play DriveClub with a controller than with a wheel. Is that by design or more of an unfortunate coincidence? Are there plans to even-out the playing field for wheel players?
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How is it easier? I thought wheel is where the advantage was at.

Better throttle control with pedals.
 
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Summer Haze

Banned
#1 defender said:
This will make a lot of people happy.
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Yup. This is awesome for me.

I wonder if the new brightness options are intended to be a fix for the brightness/contrast issue when using dash/cockpit view...or has that been fixed independently?

Either way, great update. Being able to use photo-mode at any point during a replay sounds great.
 
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Cuthbert 80

Member
@Rushy

Thank you so much for the amazing new update coming next week, especially adding the option to adjust screen brightness in-game.

In the new replay feature, will the cars wheels/tires blur in motion like they do in all of your trailers and other racing games like Forza or Gran Turismo 5/6?
I only ask as they dont appear to blur in-game.

Thanks again for the incredible post support for this amazing game.
 
iFootball

iFootball

Member
Denur said:
@Rushy:
I understand that it is easier to play DriveClub with a controller than with a wheel. Is that by design or more of an unfortunate coincidence? Are there plans to even-out the playing field for wheel players?
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Based on kie25's comment, it doesn't seem like the wheel has a disadvantage:

kie25 said:
I've just been going for venom hot lap 2 world record using a wheel which trust me is hard, my old time if 1.16.6 was using pad and external cam, decided to go hardcore and use wheel and dash cam managed to get 2nd in world and a 1.16.3, hopefully get into the 1.15s soon as I should done it a few goes. I'm uploading video now I'll share link when finished.
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... meanwhile, after more than a couple of hours trying I'm still stuck at 1.20.4xx using the controller... UGH
 
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lordxar

Member
mangochutney said:
How is it easier? I thought wheel is where the advantage was at.

Better throttle control with pedals.
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Lol friends of mine were asking the same thing so I tested it out. The controller is competetive in times but not in ease of use (not the best words to use) or smoothness. It just felt more stressful I guess is a good way to put it like I had to work harder to do the same run. With a wheel you get smooth movements in turns, throttle and braking but on a controller it feels like some janky cyborg learning to walk but it is competetive as we see a lot of the top times on controller.
 
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Denur

Member
mangochutney said:
How is it easier? I thought wheel is where the advantage was at.

Better throttle control with pedals.
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I was referring to this post:

DHC-Shannow said:
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The attachment is Rushy's tweet he mentions.

Personally I think there's pluses and minuses to both - the pad gives you the ability to countersteer quicker but the wheel potentially allows finer movement, more precise throttle and tactile feedback once you get used to it.
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Duallusion

Duallusion

Member
Great update with a couple of nice surprises. Can't wait to see top drifters' replays since people will actually have to properly drift now.

My wishlist for upcoming updates:

- no-damage toggle in settings (for replays)
- starting position listed at the end of every MP race
- MP middle-of-the-race quitters should at the very least be listed as such at the end of the race, instead of just vanishing. Some sort of penalty wouldn't go amiss either, since they are so common - a 2 minute ban from joining another MP session or something like that.
 
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kie25

Member
For the people saying wheel is easier than pad, you may be correct if your not pushing the car to the max, once you start maxing out a car the pad is allot more forgiving, rushy has already confirmned pad is easier a few times on twitter and as a user of both i agree. If you look at leaderboards they are dominated by pad users.
 
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nib95

Banned
kie25 said:
For the people saying wheel is easier than pad, you may be correct if your not pushing the car to the max, once you start maxing out a car the pad is allot more forgiving, rushy has already confirmned pad is easier a few times on twitter and as a user of both i agree. If you look at leaderboards they are dominated by pad users.
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Does it tell you if users are using pads or wheels on the leader boards? I thought it didn't have that information? I feel like most of the world record times I've watched on YouTube are from people claiming they're using wheels.
 
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Khalifa Jayy

Banned
kie25 said:
I've just been going for venom hot lap 2 world record using a wheel which trust me is hard, my old time if 1.16.6 was using pad and external cam, decided to go hardcore and use wheel and dash cam managed to get 2nd in world and a 1.16.3, hopefully get into the 1.15s soon as I should done it a few goes. I'm uploading video now I'll share link when finished.
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That's absolutely insane. Wow.
FireSol said:
March update trailer is up http://youtu.be/UhOlOr5hxJY

Free car: Peugeot Onyx Concept

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So gooooooooood.


Rushy said:
All of the details for update 1.12
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Man, between this and the official 2.50 update, Sony and teams are doing work! Nice!

Also, are we ever getting split times added during multi-lap races? I'm pretty sure I've yet to see that, and it's something I've really liked in other games as it allows you to see yourself getting quicker and quicker as you complete more laps. Has anyone ever heard of anything on that front?
 
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