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Andrew House: PS4 sold through 2.1 million units worldwide as of 12/1, 700K in EU/AU
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Chittagong
Gold Member
The demand for PS4 is incredible, provided they had supply they could realistically have hit 5M by year end.
It's well deserved naturally. The key factors giving the sales edge to PS4 in relation to Xbox One:
- Crystal clear positioning, 'the most powerful new generation console'
- Sharply defined target group, 'this is for the gamers'
- Hitting price sweet spot at $399 / £349
- Amazing year of exclusives immediately ahead - Destiny Beta, DriveClub, Infamous, 1886, possibly even Uncharted
- Excellent hardware design and innovative service design (PS+ free games)
- Truly global launch
Hard to find much fault in the plan and execution.
It's well deserved naturally. The key factors giving the sales edge to PS4 in relation to Xbox One:
- Crystal clear positioning, 'the most powerful new generation console'
- Sharply defined target group, 'this is for the gamers'
- Hitting price sweet spot at $399 / £349
- Amazing year of exclusives immediately ahead - Destiny Beta, DriveClub, Infamous, 1886, possibly even Uncharted
- Excellent hardware design and innovative service design (PS+ free games)
- Truly global launch
Hard to find much fault in the plan and execution.
It only adds more anecdotal evidence to the fire, but this is the case where I live (at least at two stores I've been to).
Aquamarine
Member
Fantastic result.
This should also mean that, given UK's debut and its relevance for the whole European market, sell through for the entire Europe should be 1 million / 900k. Leaving, then, around 100-200k sold in NA during the two weeks after the launch. PS4 IS severly supply costrained in US, as I've read almost everywhere, right?
It is. With this 2.1 million sell-through figure announced, I expect around 900K - 1 million for Europe / PAL as well.
Hong Kong
Indonesia
Korea
Malaysia
Singapore
Taiwan
Thailand
How many more PS4 will be sold there in December do you think?
500k maybe?
TheXfactor
Member
For some reason I think the x1 is going to drop like a rock after the holidays, Im just not seeing the demand, PS4 seems like its got some momentum though, but its not going to save the decline in console sales. We will see what happens though
WolfForager
Member
This is the best I can come up with for now (read notes below):
It's admittedly not the best comparison.
Caveats/notes:
All consoles except PS4 are for November + December of respective launch year. PS4 is just through December 1st.
PS4 is for every territory launched through 1st December.
PS3 is for Japan and US only.
Xbox 360 and Wii's European sales are for UK, Germany and France only. And NA sales don't include Canada.
Wii U's European sales are for UK, FR, GE, SP, IT, NE, BE only. And NA sales don't include Canada.
It's a damned good attempt anyway. Finding accurate numbers for a specific window is damned hard, hence why I asked someone else to do it
Looks like PS4 is off the to a good start anyway.
Aquamarine
Member
One estimate I've heard is 1.2 million consoles per month (at full capacity).
shinra-bansho
Member
Just NB, I initially in error forgot to add in the 360's Japanese numbers, so the image has been updated.It's a damned good attempt anyway. Finding accurate numbers for a specific window is damned hard, hence why I asked someone else to do it
Looks like PS4 is off the to a good start anyway.
Wolves Evolve
Member
Great. I hope both consoles go completely completely fucking crazy so we can stop hearing about tablet free2play social shitcaverns for fifteen seconds. This is great news.
WolfForager
Member
The Verge is claiming that the EU + Australia accounts for 700,000 of units sold.
I don't see that figure on their source anywhere (EU PS Blog).
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/3/5169646/sony-announces-november-ps4-sales
I don't see that figure on their source anywhere (EU PS Blog).
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/3/5169646/sony-announces-november-ps4-sales
wapplew
Member
Depend on how many unit available. Mainland China gonna import from HK, I think the demand is quite high.
And you know this how?
RedRedSuit
Member
Much as I enjoy Sony's work, you are getting WAY ahead of events.
- Destiny Beta: Destiny is an unknown due to its ambitious nature, and it's a BETA... a demo at best, not a noteworthy system-selling exclusive.
- DriveClub: It's an unknown. Could really go either way in terms of quality, and even given it hits the mark there could be a sales non-event.
- inFamous: The series has yet to hit it out of the park in terms of quality or sales.
- 1886: Complete unknown. A shooter from the makers of God of War and Daxter games on PSP? Technically it's going to great... gameplay-wise, complete unknown.
- Uncharted: Very unlikely.
Sony's upcoming year is not looking that good in terms of software... yet.
lol what ?
The yield issues rumours were a bunch of crap and disproven as soon as the consoles were opened up - the difference in die size between the PS4 and XB1 is a measly 4%.
Doubt they'll be released. MS wants the public to think they've sold as much as Sony.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Congrats Sony
Simple math, read my post from earlier
Fantastic result.
This should also mean that, given UK's debut and its relevance for the whole European market, sell through for the entire Europe should be 1 million / 900k. Leaving, then, around 100-200k sold in NA during the two weeks after the launch. PS4 IS severly supply costrained in US, as I've read almost everywhere, right?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Great job cant wait for the real games to come out
Magic Mushroom
Member
Because it's hard to find one.
Anyway, great result. Now tease some of your exclusives to us, Sony. Throw us a bone.
RAD have yet to make a bad game, I think The Order is in good hands. Also, why do you think an Uncharted release is unlikely? It had three years in the oven by the end of next year and Sony wants a big exclusive to counter Halo.
How could they do that? If the install base is huge for the PS4, how can they give up so much money to make 3rd party exclusives/not for Sony platforms? I don't think Microsoft will waste millions on the Xbox Division to keep that up. If they clearly lose in sales that means MS can't rely on Halo and multiplats. They have to keep the exclusives rolling like the launch period and the current 2014 lineup.
Remember when MS didn't have to worry about sales? Take a look at the last 3-4 years of the 360 exclusives.
If sold around 1 million on Europe and others, sales after day 1 in US are low.
ps: If this new number (700k for Europe+Australia is true), than sales in US are bigger.
Yeah, record breaking sales are very poor! Poor PS4 lol
You would expect sales of both the PS4 and XB1 to be very front-loaded. So the fact that XB1 doesn't appear to be totally sold out should be worrying to MS.
Looking at ebay PS4 is selling for as much or more than XB1, and it costs $100 less at retail. Which again indicates that demand is not outstripping supply.
TheXfactor
Member
well npd is coming next week, i dont think there is much hiding after that. 3DS and PS4, da sales monsters O.O
if that was true, it would confirm my theory that sony is aiming for Xbox centric countries , not forgetting the rest of Europe but a few more units seem to have gone to UK/US than Euroland
PS4 launched 2 days ago in EU.
after day one, need to draw for you?
Funny guy.
Americanmushroom
Banned
PS4 could have sold 5million easily if the stock was available. PS4 biggest problem is not the Xbox One, it's the manufacturing time.
Nightengale
Member
We have zero indication of how much Europe sold aside from UK.
And where's the stocks of PS4 on shelves, since they shouldn't be selling well by your account?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
LOL! I enjoyed the last year because as PS3 is my primary owner. Every game was a multiplatform game.
However, what saddened me was that even the exclusives that should be system sellers weren't that great anymore. Its like they weren't even trying (hyperbole, but excessively missing). Even the Mighty Halo went through some ridiculous changes, some that will even make Activision cringe.
So when the competition is tough, we will see some really great first party titles from all sides.
I want the next new IP from either one of the three to blow my mind like how "Gears of War" did when first announced all the way to their final theatrical and televised commercial.
I'm still upset about the Dreamcast, too, but this isn't cool.
The official press release is out.
http://scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/131203b_e.pdf
The number for the euro launch is 700k. So 1.4m in NA between launch and month end.
They say demand is overwhelming supply.
I know it will surprise some, but I figured they wouldn't have the same stock for Europe as NA.
http://scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/131203b_e.pdf
The number for the euro launch is 700k. So 1.4m in NA between launch and month end.
They say demand is overwhelming supply.
I know it will surprise some, but I figured they wouldn't have the same stock for Europe as NA.
How much did it sell after day one?
Source?
Pretty much. I remember the original reveal not being sure if they had just announced a controller for the Wii or a full blown new console.
That didn't stop certain industry people from FUDing though.
Or it could mean that Europe is supply constrained and PS4 sold out. Can't buy PS4 if there aren't any available.
Based on the infoscout report? If so, the report only accounts for ~1,500 receipts that had either a console and/or game sale on it.
I think there's plenty enough demand over here. Sportsbros keep asking me about it. I just hope Sony knows this and sends enough units our way.
Except you can't prove him wrong. And anecdotal evidence backs him up. Other than Wal-Mart guaranteeing a PS4 to anyone willing to wait in line for hours on Black Friday, who has been selling PS4s since launch? I've been looking everywhere locally and can't find one. I wouldn't be surprised at all if their sales numbers post-launch are low. Now that the European launch has happened, perhaps the US will get some more attention.