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Assassin's Creed Origins screenshot leaks, new details (AC4 team, Naval combat, more)
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Masterspeed
Member
How would naval combat work in ancient Egypt?
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Naval combat is a huge turn off for me. It ruined ACIV.
MonkeyMan29
Member
Ding. Ding.
ScientificPizza
Banned
I think the naval stuff plays fine, but it's just ill fitting for this series. IV was their opportunity to spin it out into its own seperate pirate franchise but they missed their shot
It's a shame because a more pirate focused game without the assassin stuff weighing it down could be really good
It's a shame because a more pirate focused game without the assassin stuff weighing it down could be really good
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_navy
With all due respect, ever looked at where Egypt is on a map?
Linking a Wikipedia page saying that it existed doesn't make it an interesting gameplay concept.
Similar to how people were linked to Wikipedia pages when they feared BF1 combat might become shallow and repetitive.
WraithWalker1893
Banned
I love the fact that some want the modern/present day gone. It's simply not gonna happen. It gives me great satisfaction you want it gone knowing that it just won't happen. It makes AC well .... AC. You can't take away the fucking foundation. About a month ago, Aymar Azaizia, head of AC content did a AMA on reddit and said this about it all
"Present day is an important piece of AC identity IMHO, and that's why we pushed so much to have a lot Present in transmedia at large (comics, novels, movie...)
.In the game, it is hard to achieve what we would all like to see, but our team are well aware about the importance of it, so if we use modern setting, we will have to nail it, we agree on that
"
Someone also asked him a question about a return of a modern day protagonist and a strong modern day story and he simply replied with a smiley face. If that isn't proof that modern day will be in, then I don't know what is.
"Present day is an important piece of AC identity IMHO, and that's why we pushed so much to have a lot Present in transmedia at large (comics, novels, movie...)
.In the game, it is hard to achieve what we would all like to see, but our team are well aware about the importance of it, so if we use modern setting, we will have to nail it, we agree on that
"Someone also asked him a question about a return of a modern day protagonist and a strong modern day story and he simply replied with a smiley face. If that isn't proof that modern day will be in, then I don't know what is.
ScientificPizza
Banned
It's not just that it existed, but it also details battles and weapon types
Irishonion
Member
Can't wait, really like that this one has had a bit more time to be worked on.
Also love more exploration, favorite aspect of these games.
Also love more exploration, favorite aspect of these games.
To be fair, the battles in BF1 don't remotely accurately represent what warfare looked like. Not even WW2 had that kind of abundance in automatic weapons.
I think arrow-based and ramming naval fights can be accurate and incredible enjoyable, though.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Present day (despite being trash after they killed Desmond and Lucy) is a core part of this series identity. However its a massive drag to play. Its probably best relegated to transmedia like comics and webseries.
All the games really need is modern day cutscenes at the begining and end to bookmark the game and contextualise the transmedia narative for those that enjoy it.
All the games really need is modern day cutscenes at the begining and end to bookmark the game and contextualise the transmedia narative for those that enjoy it.
Masterspeed
Member
... I'm not an idiot, I meant it in a sense of fun. Will naval combat be quite slow? I know the Egyptians had quite good military equipment back then, but I don't know about them having artillery or heavy canons.
It was trash while desmond and lucy were a thing too. Was kinda interesting in 1 and 2 bit meh after.
SliChillax
Member
I hated naval combat. It's slow and it takes forever to travel the map. If I had to do it less often I wouldn't mind.
If it's set during Cleopatra VII's time, there's also the battle of Actium in which she and Mark Antony were defeated by Octavian.
Well, ships ramming each other was a thing (they had like these metal ram things on their bows to pierce open another ship's hull). (Not sure when exactly that started being a thing, though. I only remember for sure that they were used in the Hellenistic era.) And, of course, getting close enough to enemy ships to board them. Then there's archers, I guess... EDIT: Oh and didn't the Romans have those giant crossbow-like things? Ah, looked it up! Scorpios. I mean, I could see Egyptian ships maybe using those in the late Hellenistic era but definitely not if it's set before then.
ROUGE_BLOCK
Member
A world with no objective markers and is just "go explore" would work really well for an AC game.
ambar_hitman
Member
Naval combat means a no buy for me.
wesleyshark
Banned
Fucking in
IgotElbows
Member
Naval combat means the origins of the Assassin's isn't probably set like in the year 1000 or before right? lol
What year do we think/know the Assassin's were made?
What year do we think/know the Assassin's were made?
I loved the modern-day stuff in 1, 2 and Brotherhood. From Revelations onwards those sections started to become worse and worse but that doesn't mean that the concept is bad. They just need to go back and execute it well again.
If Alexandria is one of the game's main locations, it'll actually be more Greek than Egyptian.
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
Sorry man, completely misread that post. Guessing it would involve ship ramming, shooting fire arrows etc.
Ascenion
Member
I never said Evie was bad, I just said Evie was unnecessary and not critical to the story. She literally was just Jacob's babysitter and her arc with Lucy Thorne which was better than Starrick and Jacob ended by like the 5th memory if not sooner. So again if that is how they do two protagonists I'd rather they put all that effort in to making one good one instead of two half assed ones. And give Ubi credit, they've made a lot of diverse protagonists.
The fact that one of the sources in the article mentions Skyrim, and that it's 2 protags again doesn't really fill me with hope. We're probably 1-2 games from just having a character creator and a historical sandbox with no real plot. I imagine some will like that, but I'm out if that's where this is going.
gaf always seems to say evie was better than jacob so plainly like its fact when evie was incredibly dull and had zero development throughout the campaign
jacob's storyline with roth was better than evie's entire nonexistent arc. even his stuff with starrick showed how he grew as a character where as evie stayed the exact same.
jacob's storyline with roth was better than evie's entire nonexistent arc. even his stuff with starrick showed how he grew as a character where as evie stayed the exact same.
WWG is still very new (less than a year old) but also growing very rapidly.
You'll be hearing from us much more in the coming months and years -- trust me on that one. I didn't write the article, but I did help facilitate Liam coming to do some work for us. I believe he's working on something else Ubi-related for us that you may want to check back for in the near future.
Off-topic: I'll be interviewing Patricia Summersett (Princess Zelda) next week, so I'll be sure to drop that here if she shares any new info. I'll see what she's willing to share about Zelda's role in the second DLC release coming later this year for sure.
rockman zx
Member
Can't wait for the reveal this month if rumors are true, I hope is not a CG trailer, just a small gameplay sneak peak.
shadow_shogun
Member
Gaddamn it...The naval aspect of black Flag is the very reason I haven't finished it.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
No way they'll do CG anymore.
It would kill the franchise. They have to prove this game is legit immediately or it's DOA as a franchise.
icecold1983
Member
all i interpret from that is more collectathonning and even less narrative. no thx ubi
I could see them release a CG trailer alongside some gameplay footage. Pretty sure that they've done that before for AC games. (Like, IIRC, one E3 they had a CG trailer for ACII at their conference and some gameplay footage of it at Sony's or sth like that.)
rockman zx
Member
They changed their marketing approach with Syndicate but because this is a new AC, new in many things, I'm going to guess they will save the gameplay for E3. We will see, a live stream or video with some of the key members talking about the game and a small sneak peak will do it for me
Guess I shouldn't be, but I'm kind of surprised to see so many shitting on the navel combat and BF in general. Black Flag was my favorite Assassins creed game, it was definitely the most fun to play as a whole package.
Also kind of funny that for a place that cries out for a game set in Egypt as often as I've seen here, so few seem to know much about its actual history.
MC choice is cool, though I'd personally rather just have a character creator.
Also kind of funny that for a place that cries out for a game set in Egypt as often as I've seen here, so few seem to know much about its actual history.
MC choice is cool, though I'd personally rather just have a character creator.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
When was the last time Ubisoft revealed an AC game with a CG trailer?
They want the player to "create their own narrative".
Take that as you will.
VanCityGamer
Member
Pretty much my fear. If they say it's like Skyrim, they need to similarly fill it with tons of interesting side quests and places to explore. Not just make the map the size of Skyrim, fill it with things to collect, and reduce emphasis on story.
ROUGE_BLOCK
Member
Its kinda traditional that the people dismayed by a feature are more likely to respond than the ones who enjoy it. Just internet logic by this point. On a side note the naval combat would work completely differently than what it was in Black Flag, since there's no cannons, motors, barrels of gas etc.
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
Very nice. Loved the naval combat in BF and Rogue. Can't wait for E3!!!
Warablo
Member
Honestly, if they wont give us a modern AC. They should at least do this.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Sounds interesting. Would like to get hype, but me and Ubisoft don't have the best of relationships nowadays. We had something years ago, but now it's just the occasional booty call.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
does this mean no more animus wankery bullshit? if it does then count me in