cobragt4001
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Why not save money and put in another 670, that's if you can spare the wattage of course. IMO that's the best course of action.
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BF4 demo at AMD event was running one 290X card @ higher than 3K resolution
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Why not save money and put in another 670, that's if you can spare the wattage of course. IMO that's the best course of action.
It doesn't matter. And your CPU will be fine for gaming for quite some time, especially if you do some overclocking. I'm still on a Sandy Bridge and all is well. Though we haven't had many games to punish the hardware with lately but they are starting to come out, BF4 right around the corner.
There's not much competition on the CPU side right now so Intel is just sailing along, more focus on lowering the power consumption.
GK110 has a lot of resources dedicated for the professional market, if Nvidia wanted they could have only went for gaming and made a similar sized chip (or probably even smaller). Die size is hardly a criteria for anything if you dont know the components and the design strategy of the ASIC.
flying dutchman
Neo Member
I realize it was offscrean and low quality youtube stream but that wasnt that mind blowing. For the power of around 5tflops gpu and a i7 cpu it should be showing a gap between itself and the ps4 than it is doing. I expected more.
Phire Phox
Banned
And most people still won't give a rat's ass.
Did you get a deal?
Ol No Bones
Banned
Price?
And it wont be mantleable will it >_>?
hemtae
Member
It uses the GCN architecture so I don't see why not.
Definitely a lot of interesting developments between Mantle and Valve's new ventures. Excited to see where these developments lead to.
'Lil bit.
Dat feeling when there are folks with monitors whose vertical pixel count is the same as or more than mine's horizontal ;_;
ColdBlooder
Banned
Amazing reactions to my previous post, lol!
IMO Wii U and PC give me the best of both worlds. The best exclusives (IMO) and the multiplats with the best graphics.
You don't have to understand it. You don't have to like it. But you have to accept that this is my opinion.
And i'm not "just" jumping on the PC train right now. Im labeled a "Nintendo fanboy" on GAF but im a PC gamer for way over a decade, SHOCKING NEWS!
Just not really participating in PCGAF much...
Anyone who modified autoexec.bat and config.sys to get enough of the damn conventional memory free for certain games are true PC oldschoolers like me. Man there were some amazing and frustrating days, lol
The 290x really looks like a damn beast, Especially if it goes into beast mode using Mantle.
Also interesting. 290x + Mantle + SteamOS = Banderas.gif
IMO Wii U and PC give me the best of both worlds. The best exclusives (IMO) and the multiplats with the best graphics.
You don't have to understand it. You don't have to like it. But you have to accept that this is my opinion.
And i'm not "just" jumping on the PC train right now. Im labeled a "Nintendo fanboy" on GAF but im a PC gamer for way over a decade, SHOCKING NEWS!
Just not really participating in PCGAF much... Anyone who modified autoexec.bat and config.sys to get enough of the damn conventional memory free for certain games are true PC oldschoolers like me. Man there were some amazing and frustrating days, lol
The 290x really looks like a damn beast, Especially if it goes into beast mode using Mantle.
Also interesting. 290x + Mantle + SteamOS = Banderas.gif
StoppedInTracks
Member
Bu bu bu PS4 will have the definitive version because no single PC is "definitive"and your pal can always one up you and have 8 TITAN cards!
/W_D thread
(you see how stupid this line of thinking is? it's illogical, it makes my brain physically hurt)
/W_D thread
(you see how stupid this line of thinking is? it's illogical, it makes my brain physically hurt)
Dreams-Visions
Member
$549, please. I'm in.
MrRoderick
Member
I am extremely curious to see what, if any, correlation Mantle will have to steam machines. From what it sounds like with the performance gains, and especially the multi-platform compatability, it'd be quite the hyper-combo for AMD to team up with Valve for the steam machine GPUs.
I am so glad 4k performance is becoming a thing.
I am so glad 4k performance is becoming a thing.
At the end of the day, it's up to individuals to decide what they feel is good value for them. My cousin, for example, just bought a 55" 4k LED TV for £3,300. I think it's terrible value personally, especially considering it doesn't look as good as plasmas half the price (in my opinion), but he thinks it's good value so who am I to say otherwise?
There's expensive, niche goods in virtually every market. Why should gaming be any different?
Yeah, but it's not like you're being forced into buying those cards. There's still plenty of mid range options available that won't break the bank. The mid range cards generally have better performance per $ than the more expensive cards, too.
These super expensive cards are for a small niche of users who have very unique requirements. They use buckets of AA, downsample, and play on huge monitors with crazy high resolutions. These people need these ridiculously expensive, ridiculously powerful cards to satisfy their needs. The vast majority of people, however, won't need them at all.
These super expensive cards are for a small niche of users who have very unique requirements. They use buckets of AA, downsample, and play on huge monitors with crazy high resolutions. These people need these ridiculously expensive, ridiculously powerful cards to satisfy their needs. The vast majority of people, however, won't need them at all.
Prophet Steve
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I think the difference in performance between the flagship and other versions are a bit higher now. For a lower price you can still get very good cards.
I'm sorry, but there's simply no way there is this amount of gain due to an API or "to the metal" coding or whatever you want to call it. When I quote ~90 FPS with 3x Titans at 5760x1080 I'm speaking in the literal sense and not the bullshit that most people spout because they see the FPS peak at that and call it that.
The demo could very well have peaked from time to time at 60 FPS - but there's no way the average is anywhere near that with a single card. Even with "Mantle".
Emerson
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Hey guys, just a bit of a basic question from a relative PC gaming noob.
If I were to pick one of these up eventually, or something comparable, how long would it last me? I don't game at crazy resolutions or anything. Basically how long would a card like this be able to play new releases at 1080p and max or near max settings?
If I were to pick one of these up eventually, or something comparable, how long would it last me? I don't game at crazy resolutions or anything. Basically how long would a card like this be able to play new releases at 1080p and max or near max settings?
This card, or any other card in the top range of AMD or NVIDIA will let you max anything out at 1080p for quite some time. It's overkill, arguably - but it's also your build so feel free to spend how you like.
I would definitely wait until the new AMD cards drop and pricing is fully revealed before buying a new card. They will likely be the single card price/performance kings. NVIDIA will probably respond with price cuts - so, all in all, great for us.Great thread for help for a PC noob: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600246.
A really long time. Last time I bought a GPU was over 4 years ago when I got my 5870, I maxed everything for a few years, at this point, console ports generally still run max at 60fps. PC exclusive or ports that add a lot I have to choose either maxed at 30fps or reduced shadows, use SMAA, and disable stuff like SSAO for 60fps.
I'll upgrade again at the end of the year during the holidays and be good again.
I don't get this snark.
KojiKnight
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A good deal of PS4 games aren't even running 1920x1080p... This is running the exact same game as a PS4 can at over 3x the resolution. You also can't really compare them accurately because, as you said, it's a low quality youtube video
You seem to be under the impression that somehow the lithography process is the main cost associated with these products and that GPUs will and must get cheaper if the process isn't shrunk. You say prices increase "without a reason", when you don't understand all the costs required to create this GPU.
If you don't like the cost, don't buy it. You can stay at your preferred price-point. Your posts come across as though you're mad that the market for discrete GPUs can now support a greater range of price-points than a few years ago.
BF4 was reveal was at 3K if I remember correctly, thats ~18% less pixels than this as noted in the OP.
Actually if you go back and look die size is generally a really good indicator of speed. Especially when you are looking at a card that is just a revamp of it's predecessor. A predecessor which lost to the card with the smaller chip until it was up-clocked several months after release where even then it only tied.
I wouldn't mind being wrong here. I haven't bought a 'next-gen' card yet I just think AMD is always shisty with their pre-release hype.
About as much as I would expect from you.
This card, or any other card in the top range of AMD or NVIDIA will let you max anything out at 1080p for quite some time. It's overkill, arguably - but it's also your build so feel free to spend how you like.
Great thread for help for a PC noob: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600246.
hi5
i just added a third titan to my rig, feels so godly.
Again, a bigger die doesnt necessarily mean better performance if you dont dedicate the resources to resources that directly impact gaming performance. See;
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6760/nvidias-geforce-gtx-titan-part-1
I'm not the one constantly pushing conspiracy theories.
guys i need your help here. I dont think i want the 290x. I dont know yet. But i do want an upgrade from my XFX Double D 7950.
The problem with my xfx is that i cant even overclock it. Not even a little bit! it crashes the benchmark for some reason. So i googled a little bit and found out that they suck at overclocking.
I was thinking about selling my XFX and getting a sapphire because ive heard that they overclock really good. Maybe getting 2 sapphires and crossfire em and thats it or maybe 2 7970's or just wait for the R280's and do those instead but that would cost me the same as a R290x i guess, right?
I heard that if i crossfire the 7970's its gonna bottleneck my CPU. So whats the deal with the R290x then? Do i have to get an i7 if i get those or a R290x?
My setup right now:
FX 8350 (no oc)
XFX 7950 DD
16GB Gskill
MSI 970A-G46
The problem with my xfx is that i cant even overclock it. Not even a little bit! it crashes the benchmark for some reason. So i googled a little bit and found out that they suck at overclocking.
I was thinking about selling my XFX and getting a sapphire because ive heard that they overclock really good. Maybe getting 2 sapphires and crossfire em and thats it or maybe 2 7970's or just wait for the R280's and do those instead but that would cost me the same as a R290x i guess, right?
I heard that if i crossfire the 7970's its gonna bottleneck my CPU. So whats the deal with the R290x then? Do i have to get an i7 if i get those or a R290x?
My setup right now:
FX 8350 (no oc)
XFX 7950 DD
16GB Gskill
MSI 970A-G46
What is Wii U trying to be? lol
Nintendo spent three E3s being unable to specify this. We will never know.
Its an existing engine and game.
fx sucks in crossfire. So you either get a better cpu or just buy only one of these cards.
Right the point you are missing is that we have already seen these archs in action and everything so far points to nvidia having better performance per size. Unless the 290 is a major major departure from it's original incarnation which history has shown us doesn't usually happen there's not much reason to think this card will be faster then the top end competition considering the size difference combined with kepler being more efficient.
Even the eeally great updates like fermi 2.0 were only a few percentage points faster per clock.
I also umderstand that many compute features were stripped out of the 680. I just still don't see it.
Sincerely I don't expect big differences with the 290x, at best 10fps or less mantle included.
Taco_Human
Member
I wish I had money for a new rig.
The Janitor
Member
Atleast with Nvidia you can 4K downsample and force SGSSAA.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Nvidia typically has better driver features but AMD usually has a better price\performance ratio. Overclocking the 7950 to 7970 speeds should be cake. I guess you have to choose the solution that meets your needs within your budget.
That would be fantastic. I really hope that feature becomes standard for a lot of games. As someone that is still bitter about Aureal this is as big a deal as anything else coming out of that meeting.
Steambox is nothing but a powerful enough PC with Linux with some soft by Valve running on top of it.