It was 3K, so 18% less.
Also note that 7990 is about 20-25% faster than Titan (if you trust ixbt labs, which I do).
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BF4 demo at AMD event was running one 290X card @ higher than 3K resolution
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It was 3K, so 18% less.
Also note that 7990 is about 20-25% faster than Titan (if you trust ixbt labs, which I do).
Nvidia's actually been pissing me off driver-wise with how their new drivers seem to barely work with 4xx and 5xx cards. Is this sort of an anomaly for them, or have they gotten terrible about continued support of not-so-old cards?
ss_lemonade
Member
When was BF4 shown running 4K resolutions on a 7990? IIRC, it was shown at a lower res than 5760x1080
Also, has a flagship single gpu of the next gen ever bested dual gpu setups one gen below?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
It's hit or miss for both. Architecture reuse is the main reason why the older cards are seeing benefits from newer drivers, because that's definitely not the focus for AMD and Nvidia.
Yeah that's what I've been hearing. I decided I'd give up the nvidia control panel and injector for GCN architecture and mantle. (Nvidia may end up getting buggier due to the consoles using the GCN architecture?) Of course this could all just be PR bullshit. I fell for it with bulldozer and I regret it.
I'm not missing the point, you are.
What you are saying .. bigger die = better performance.
What I'm saying .. we need to know the configuration of the bigger die.
GK104 (680) doesnt have the fluff, big caches, DP performance etc. and is MUCH better than the GK110 (Titan) in terms of performance/mm2. AMD can make a Titan equivalent with a smaller die if they dont go for the same compute requirements like Titan's (& so can Nvidia).
fastford58
Member
I'm still running an old gtx285...would this card drop in to my machine? I have no idea what has changed since I built my old comp.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Lmao....how much does this cost and how much does the PS4 cost.....exactly. Sony and Ms could of made cutting edge machines but it would be expensive and people will not buy it.
Your whole rig probably needs an upgrade. More than 4 years old?
No reason to worry. AMD/Nvidia wont release a card without letting the reviewers test and review it.
polyh3dron
Banned
But coding to the metal is a stupid buzzword thing like blast processing right guys
We will find out in Nov/Dec.
It is. A thinner API layer is not "coding to the metal".
But it does offer a performance advantage, regardless of the phrasing.
And that's the context it is used in.
It's sad that I already see people in threads stating they're going with AMD based on "Mantle". Marketing is doing its job very well.
fastford58
Member
Yeah...pretty old now. i7920 on an Asus Rampage 2E, 16 gb RAM...can't even remember the type.
Your motherboard would just need to except pci-e which it does. It will go in your machine fine but the card will be bottlenecked by the CPU.
lmao ok im lost on that one
ugh! seriously!? and here i was thinking about OC'n it
I imagine it's more something of a tiebreaker or another angle being kept in mind, maybe they didn't care for PhysX, or AMD's offering a more appealing product for the amount of money necessary, or they had recent bad experiences with nVidia and want to see how this works out. More likely Mantle would just push something like BF4 from PS4 to PC "just in case" since at worst it'd still run better than PS4 anyway probably.
I thought around $600? Substantially cheaper than Titan is what I recall being thrown around
Yeah, but it just seems to me that if the performance were significantly better than 780/Titan, they'd have been showing hard figures.
If they would, you would see people crying and begging people to take them with truckloads of salt and rightly so. AMD (& Nvidia) provided benchmarks are cherry picked, besides starting with 0.8 or 0.9 on the y-scale
Coding to the Mantle.
I'm not saying a bigger die always means better performance I'm saying we have already seen 1.0 and if 2.0 follows in the footsteps of its predecessors there is not enough of a bump to topple big kep.
Regardless we will know who is right soon. Like I said I wouldn't mind being wrong. A six hundred dollar titan killer would shake up the market in an awesome way.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
I would rather pay $1K for a rig that could play games at more than twice the framerate, graphics, resolution and not have to pay for online play.
I am torn between next gen and buying a new rig. I have a fairly powerful machine running SLi GTX 570's which has served me well the last couple of years. My reasoning for console is "dat exclusivity" and the more accessible price points means I can play with friends.
But still it's a tough call especially when info like this comes out
But still it's a tough call especially when info like this comes out
KojiKnight
Member
Wait it out 6 months. Next gen will have started, the new AMD cards will be out, and you can see if there are any big exclusives coming out in the next year that you want.
You don't always have to rush into a decision you may regret a little later
Voice of reason. You are absolutely correct,Wait it out 6 months. Next gen will have started, the new AMD cards will be out, and you can see if there are any big exclusives coming out in the next year that you want.
You don't always have to rush into a decision you may regret a little later
I just hope my willpower will not get suckered in by lots of adverts with shiny colours.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
imagine what they could do if they used those resources in something other then pushing a crossgen game to 3k, then again it's nothing different to what people do with their high end PC's, still waiting to see Doom 1 in 4k ;-)
nah but seriously if I had a imax cinema for my gaming room, this is what I'd have
nah but seriously if I had a imax cinema for my gaming room, this is what I'd have
lmaoo!! screw it. ill get the 290x and keep my fx. in mantle i trust.
I agree there, it probably wasn't a consistent 60. I'm not necessarily saying it's all thanks to Mantle either, BF4 surely has other optimizations so it may end up running better than BF3 in some areas.
I just can't imagine it was running at 30 FPS or something, considering they try and make things look as good as possible for press events like these. Seeing as BF4 is also targeting 60 on consoles, it seems like it would be really odd if it was running less than that at a PC-focused event.
No idea if Mantle will deliver and it definitely hasn't sold me on a 290x. I want to see numbers first.
Compared that to last gen launch when a $300 360 could match or outperform a $1500 PC, at least the price reflects what you're getting this time around.
cobragt4001
Banned
As long as you're doing 1080p, you should be fine. If you feel that's not enough get another one.
maneil99
Member
When Did the xbox launch for 299? And COD2 and nearly all the day one games looked worse then on PC. Get your nostalgia out of your eyes.
Mantle works on all GCN cards so everything that AMD announced this week should run BF4 within Mantle.
That's times when Athlon's reigned supreme, you could get a good mobo for 50 Euro etc etc.
I don't think so.
cobragt4001
Banned
BF3? If so, what settings are you rocking?
Spazznid
Member
Ultra. I post regularly in the Screenshot threads.
Lowest it will go is 40, if there's a lot of crap being shot at my screen, and the stupid suppression effect.
cobragt4001
Banned
Nice. You're set with that 780 for many years to come. I hope the Maxwell 870 is as powerful as a 780 or titan, because if it isn't there won't be a reason for me to upgrade from my two 670s.
Spazznid
Member
It's going to be hard not to upgrade to the 880 for me. Once you go 4K, it's kind of hard to go back, especially when you like to screenshot. Gonna try to wait till the 980. GAF give me strength.
If anything, the only things I've noticed BF4 improve upon is some shaders, maybe motion blur, probably slightly better textures. Hopefully, I'm wrong, I want to be impressed. We'll see on Tuesday. (unless the limit the settings, or something.)
Launched in 2005, alongside the better version with HDD and wireless controller for $399.99. Though I imagine it'd more accurately be keeping up or outperforming a $600-800 computer, I'm sure with a $1500 computer you were curbstomping the ever lasting shit out of the 360.
Yeah, I remember reading about how Quake 4 was inarguably better on PC (though that was a rushed, poorly optimized port... which may be foreshadowing) and Oblivion which came out that spring was definitely better on PC if you had a rig that could run it well. Incidentally, first instance I saw brought up where they seriously weighed "which do you want more: achievements or mods?" which at least had the novelty factor but still sounded stupid.
TOAO_Cyrus
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Check out the die size and you will see why.