You'll still get the messages and random MP hopefully. But I bet any sort of invite coop will require ps+.
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Bloodborne's Chalice Dungeon explained (+Bundle)
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You'll still get the messages and random MP hopefully. But I bet any sort of invite coop will require ps+.
TimeEffect
Member
You guys think they'll include microtransaction options so that people can get quicker access to the procedural dungeons?
hydrophilic attack
Member
Don't forget:
$30/month for electricity
$1000 for a new sweet TV that can handle the nice PS4 graphics
$200000 for a house to play it in.
More people should call Sony out on this bullshit.
Look around for some bundles. IIRC there are some bundles with free PS+. Even then, I don't really recommend buying a system for only one game.
FF Seraphim
Member
Angry Customer: Fuck you Sony! I have to buy a house! This is Bullshit!
Sony: What?
Angry Customer: I'm going to SUE!! *hangs up*
Sony: What... what just happened?
Ingueferroque
Banned
No? This isn't an EA game.
Not to mention DeS is the easiest of the three.
I actually own all that already. Except $30 electricity which would be an amazing dream.
JudgmentJay
Member
I actually lol'd.
shiherlis21
Member
Procedurally generated dungeons! Aww yeah!
This Chalice dungeon thing sounds it might have some random elements to it.
I could, but I probably won't. Maybe when I get bored I might get tempted, I really do like the PvP in the Souls games and this one seems no different.
I could, but I probably won't. Maybe when I get bored I might get tempted, I really do like the PvP in the Souls games and this one seems no different.
Having to play for multiplayer sucks, but not being able to play The Last of Us or Bloodborne's PVP (please have PVP) would suck even more.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Wait, no 7.1 surround sound? Psssht, that's bush league.
That would be a travesty.
Lol at $30/month for electricity. I wish.
Naw but I could see them doing DLC to expand the random elements.
This isn't a PR trick. Sony owns both games so why would you even mention Dark Souls a 3d party one?
hydrophilic attack
Member
I'm not counting electricity that is not used for gaming. I'm trying to be fair here.
Bjomesphat
Banned
Yup, I'm in the same boat. Hopefully there's a bundle in the US. And unless I can get PS+ for free, there's no way I'm supporting that "service" just to play online.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Or...its just a cool Easter Egg
serversurfer
Member
What about the fact you can save and share the best iterations after beating them? Wouldn't that allow for your "attack the same problem a different way" gameplay? It would even give you the option of going back to solo a co-op run you made with your buddies, or vice versa.
Mihos
Gold Member
TangoAlphaLima
Member
FYI, that "service" is providing two very good PS4 games (Transistor and Rogue Legacy) and one potentially good, brand-new PS4 game (Apotheon) in the month of February at no extra charge. You aren't just paying to play online.
Yes, the share function is a brilliant take on it, I'm sure some other indie game did it before, but it was a genius idea anyway.
I still wish they went deeper in the share integration, and made it possible for you to invade people from the Live from Playstation thing. You just choose some fool who's streaming the game and click Invade. That would be so cool.
Red Liquorice
Member
Well you're renting them from a very select number of titles, but essentially it's just pay-to-play online if the limited titles are of no interest to you.
Just bitter because it's going to be a very long time before I get a PS4 
fuzzyreactor
Banned
my electricity averages 35 a month
I'm curious about all these games, but none of them are really must haves for me.
Still... Bloodborne...
This makes me weep for the future more than a mobile game or micro-transaction ever has. :/
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Bjomesphat
Banned
I've looked at PS+ over the months. It's mostly old games I've played years ago or have no interest in playing, or year old indie games that any savvy consumer could have gotten for real cheap many times throughout the year and actually own them forever. And then of course there are games that just aren't very good or on an outdated platform (PS3).
If I had PS+, it would just be to play online, and I'm against that.
Veritigo_X
Member
Procedural dungeons are not a new thing... I wouldn't even put them in the same league as mobile gaming or micro-transactions.
Games that have procedural dungeons:
Diablo I/II
Daggerfall
Rogue
Persona 3/4
Dark Cloud
What exactly is the problem with them? Plus it's just one optional dungeon.
I'll never understand this line of thinking. What does people's hype on a gaming forum have to do with how well a game turns out? Especially with the precedent of Demon's/Dark Souls under their belt.
Well, you did include a house a TV ;P
Bjomesphat
Banned
The only one I've played on that list is Persona, and the dungeon crawling is the worst part about those games. I just prefer hand crafted experiences.
No, but I do think they'll release DLC for the Chalice. I have no idea what he said in Japanese, but the translation seemed to imply post launch content.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Huh? Transistor came out last year! Rogue Legacy came out in 2013 on PC, but just came to PS4/PS3/Vita last year! Apotheon ain't even been released yet!!! There is zero chance all of these meet your criteria.
And heck, I bought Rogue Legacy on PC during the end of year Steam Sales for $2.24, the lowest I've ever seen it. But I bought multiple PS+ years when they were discounted to $30, so my monthly average for the service is $2.50! How could a "savvy consumer" purchase what PS+ offers for cheaper?
All this derailing is silly. PS+ is well worth the cost. Don't avoid Bloodborne's locked online features because of an unfounded antipathy towards PS+.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Is it, though? I played DkS first, and while it was absolutely challenging (in a very good and rewarding way) I never felt like I was stuck. Died many, many times, but got through it without ever feeling like giving up. Then I started playing DeS, and after the first few easy areas shit got TOUGH. Got stuck at that boss with the tongue, and haven't played it in quite some time now. The big dragon/demon thing was also a big nope. No idea what to do there. I guess this is just me not having figured those bosses out, but they feel more impenetrable than most of DkS to me.
(I WILL beat it before BB is released. Think I'm gonna jump back in tonight, actually.)
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
So do I, but remember that it's only a small optional part of the game, and honestly, the Chalice dungeon sounds like an actually interesting take on procedural dungeons. I know it's the first time I've ever been excited for a random generated dungeon anyway.
DeS is definitely the easiest, no contest. You can get so strong as to break the game and one-shot several of the bosses, and that's without that much effort.
So do I, but remember that it's only a small optional part of the game, and honestly, the Chalice dungeon sounds like an actually interesting take on procedural dungeons. I know it's the first time I've ever been excited for a random generated dungeon anyway.
When you put it that way... While randomly generated level design would make me go NOPE in any other game, Bloodborne actually has me saying "meh, I'll give it a try, I guess", which is already a lot more than it usually would be.
You're 100% right.
Can't wait for Fashion Beast
PensivePen
Member
I'll always prefer a crafted, thoughtful experience. But I've come to learn to enjoy the experience of having something new to play through each time in games like Diablo, and Spelunky, so I really appreciate that they're trying to give us the best of both worlds with this approach. I do hope there'll be a lot of variety in the types of layouts the Chalice Dungeon can have.
The Xtortionist
Member
Any reason why that hunter boss has a cloth over his eyes similar to Maiden in Black? It looks identical.
JudgmentJay
Member
So do I, but remember that it's only a small optional part of the game, and honestly, the Chalice dungeon sounds like an actually interesting take on procedural dungeons. I know it's the first time I've ever been excited for a random generated dungeon anyway.
DeS is definitely the easiest, no contest. You can get so strong as to break the game and one-shot several of the bosses, and that's without that much effort.
Very subjective. After ~500 hours and countless builds in each of the 3 games I still find DeS the hardest. It's easy to break the game in all 3, and I'd argue that Dark Souls is the easiest since it has Power Within which is basically a free +40% damage buff that requires no stat or soul investment.
Veritigo_X
Member
Umbasa is the reason for all.