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Cabal me excited - Destiny 2 Gameplay today!
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Smokey_Run
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Obliterator
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Lots of "No 60fps, no buy" nonsense for sure gonna happen.
franklyshankly
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Can't wait for them to not discuss the framerate, and then we have another month of people speculating based on the stream video until we get more info.
This will be Bungie's biggest test on PC. Thankfully PvE is what drives the endgame content but I would have no interest playing trials on PC.
Pretty much.
They probably won't, but the people who are there will have a good enough eye to spot it.
god I wish I had an invite..was gonna pre order for beta access.. still might if possible
Stein has a Scorpio image in his avatar... I'm sure he's praying it to be false. Just imagine you were hyping Scorpio for a year.. then Sony swoops in and kill all the thunder in one day.
You are assuming because Destiny 1 was a cross gen game it wasn't pushing PS4Bone at all and as such a sequel that is built for current gen can hit 60FPS. Two massive flaws in that logic:
1) Don't you think a game that's cross gen, looks worse and has smaller/less dense areas has a better chance of running at 60FPS than what we Destiny 2 ends up being ? If the first game can't hit 60 then what chance does a sequel, built to take advantage of modern rendering features with bigger areas and better visuals, has at hitting 60FPS? I mean wrath of the machine even pushes the consoles so far to cause frame drops below 30 due to the higher enemy count (which is why ROI doesn't exist on PS360)
2) Do you also not think that whatever advantages a new engine brings, while being natively developed for current gen, would be exhausted on bigger areas and better visuals? You cannot get bigger areas, better visuals AND 60FPS at the same time while using the same machine that manages 30FPS in Destiny 1 with little remaining overhead. For that to happen Destiny 1 would had to have a severely unoptimised rendering code on the current gen consoles to a crippling level.
franklyshankly
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I promise there will still be debates over the actual framerate unless it is explicitly stated.
The Lamonster
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haha yep this got me too.
Dynasty8
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Stuff I actually prefer to turn off. Sounds like a good fit for me considering it's around $40-$50 compared to the Razer/Nacon which are over $100+. Would you say the overall feel is similar to the Xbox One controller (not the Elite, but the regular)? I consider the X1 controller to be the greatest controller ever (IMO). Love the analog sticks, the triggers, and everything else about it.
Of course, it's NeoGAF after all. But that's a part of the fun.
MrBenchmark
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Very similar other than the triggers being digital. It is very very light and has a nice long cord.
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AjufrbgHr7UmgaZ9lizwGjsmhRMSnQ
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AjufrbgHr7UmgaZ7d2UIOdAtZfL1Gw
it'll be 59.95fps. drama.
Agreed, but regardless I can't invest in this thinking it'll be bug-free.. just hoping for less patches/nerfs/overall fixes..the honing should become less, and less after all these hours
EDIT.... not eventually indefinite of course
franklyshankly
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I really don't get how a throwaway post gets so much credence with zero corroboration. Including belief in a new Sony console because of it.
Tomeru
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It is my opinion that the problem is not the ds4, but you. And I have facts to back that up:
Look over what you post before you act surprised at the responses.
cross-play? good luck with that one tbh!
Herp Derpington
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That's not what I said. I didn't realize people thought the DS4 is superior for shooters. There's a clear difference. I don't mind the DS4 overall it's just a poor substitute for shooters.
Well I'm being hyperbolic of course but in all seriousness the DS4 is an inferior shooter controller. In my opinion at least. I'm sure there are those that disagree but then again there's those who said the Gamecube controller was acceptable and we all know how wrong those people are.
As for what you linked to, ironically it resembles the prototype DS3 Sony debuted with the prototype PS3. Pretty funny.
Hah, I dunno... There's a lot of things I find fun about GAF, and FPS arguments are definitely not one of them.
veloxStrix
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So after analyzing this Youtube footage, I can conclusively say that Destiny is not 60fps.
Now now, let's not say anything we can't take back
I'm with you, I didn't necessarily mean arguments about just that, but weird arguments over all.
Looks 60fps to me on this Twitch stream. Buttery smooth.
Let me get things straight first: I don't really care if it ends up 30 or 60, and there is no technological reason why Destiny 2 can not run at 60 FPS (I wouldnt be suprised if they push PvP to 60 FPS tho). But for the sake of argument:
1 & 2: Without access to any kind of proper profiling tools it's hard to say, but given the fact that, excluding WROTM, the game ran without very few framedrops and was pretty much identical across PS4 and and the less powerful X1 (with vsync engaged) makes me think that yes, there already was some overhead. Now, Bungie seemed to have pushed the D1 engine to "its limits" with Rise of Iron (and only in certain scenarios) but there are many ways to improve framerate AND graphical fidelity. Things will still be CPU bound, but something like adaptive resolutions and a bigger memory pool can surely help. Also, rendering technology doesnt sit still, and it wouldnt surprise me if Bungie's engine team has optimised certain things to shave off the necessary ms to improve frametimes. I know these games arent 'MMO Shooters' like Destiny, but if you look at an 'open world game' like MGS5, and shooters like Battlefield 1; I see very little reason why Destiny 2 "can not" be 60 FPS. Also, a big part of Destiny's visual appeal is the art style; which is more abstract/stylised than 'photorealistic'. For example, does the game 'need' something like a real time 'time of day' lighting support, or can stuff be baked in? It all comes down to if Bungie wants it to be 60 FPS.
Still I believe Sony and MS want a form of parity between their regular and enthusiast consoles, so whatever the framerate(s) ends up being, it will be the same for PS4 / PS4 Pro and X1 / Scorpio
Herp Derpington
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Dre_G_Writer
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Ima be completely honest, I'm one of those people.
I plan on getting the PC version because of that very reason plus being able to change the FOV. So ima be keeping my ear to the street and observing with a sharp eye.
I liked the game a lot, but the close up field of view and the 30 frames kept me from playing a lot. It may not seem like a big deal, but when all the games you play are on PC running at 60 frames and the ONLY game I own on console runs at 30 frames, its like a big shake up on my head and eyes and I sometimes get headaches when playing destiny.
Im so used to playing at 60 and jumping to 30 feels weird.
couldnt even enjoy the prey demo on PS4 because of this.
MrBenchmark
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Still doesn't change the fact that the competition both MS and Nintendo and third parties offer more comfortable options and still doesn't make my opinion any less valid other people have similar issues. But hey cool come at me some more about what I feel is or isn't comfortable.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
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I can't see any difference between 30fps and 60fps yet here I am giving my opinion on the matter and telling ppl it doesn't matter.
You guys get it. I just started gradually playing less and less after year one. Starting with TTK the game just became a bland stream of boring rewards.
franklyshankly
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I appreciate you all going ahead and giving me a preview of the future so I can get used to it.
Fbh
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Well I guess it's nice being able to be excited about seeing more of the game without losing sleep over it being 60fps or 30fps.
Had a lot of fun with destiny 1. If this is bigger and better then I couldn't care less about the framerate (as long as it's not sub 30fps)
Game is announced to be 60fps
Game releases
Digital Foundry releases their analysis where they say it runs at 60fps 99% percent of the time but there is one particular scene which is like 2 minutes long where Scorpio drops to 50fps and Ps4 pro drops to 40fps
Massive meltdowns in the thread with people calling Bungie liars, acting as if the game was running at locked 40/50fps and refusing to buy the game because it's not 60fps
Had a lot of fun with destiny 1. If this is bigger and better then I couldn't care less about the framerate (as long as it's not sub 30fps)
Game is announced to be 60fps
Game releases
Digital Foundry releases their analysis where they say it runs at 60fps 99% percent of the time but there is one particular scene which is like 2 minutes long where Scorpio drops to 50fps and Ps4 pro drops to 40fps
Massive meltdowns in the thread with people calling Bungie liars, acting as if the game was running at locked 40/50fps and refusing to buy the game because it's not 60fps
Aizen.S.Kennedy
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You mean you don't want to test your PvP 1337 skiilz against xXMr.360noscopeStealYurGurlxX in glorious 4K at 120fps?
Bull_peeler
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What does (Microsoft is holding back the Cross Save for XBox) even mean? Will Destiny 2 have a Windows 10 XPA version like COD Infinite Warfare?
Wait 21 hours.
Literally just finished Destiny base game for thw first time and did it entirely in coop with my dad. Looking to get into the expansions soon. It was one of my favorite gaming experiences ever and now I'm weirdly excited for Destiny.
Drop in drop out MMO was one of those things I never quite appreciated until I discovered how easy it was to game with my Dad.
Drop in drop out MMO was one of those things I never quite appreciated until I discovered how easy it was to game with my Dad.
Yeah, just at Halo 5 as your prime example. The art and graphics are so sterile in that game. But hey - 60 FPS -_-
PLASTICA-MAN
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This is good news but what is the next PS4?
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