stargateheaven
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So is this essentially a "trace" of the original? I know they said they used the original gemoetry of the levels to have them exact, but is all the movement also been copied over and traced?
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Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy Trailer Shown at PSX
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In the Blog post they say:
Dan Tanguay said:
So it sounds like they tried to be as accurate as possible to the gameplay of the originals.
It's playable in demo form at PSX, right? Any GAFfers have gameplay impressions?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yes its playable at PSX, haven't seen any gaf impressions.
stargateheaven
Member
Sounds like they havent kept any original code then. That's fine but i'm just worried we might have another sonic 4 on our hands when it comes to physics and movement.
it just has to "feel right" to me.
Stereogatari
Banned
Yes that is one of the main reasons Crash Wrath of Cortex felt like trash.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Looks fantastic from what I've seen.
Though it's worrying that they chose not to show any of 2 or 3: they were made on a completely different engine than Crash 1 and their gameplay feels notably different (faster). I really hope VV's remakes reflect that.
Though it's worrying that they chose not to show any of 2 or 3: they were made on a completely different engine than Crash 1 and their gameplay feels notably different (faster). I really hope VV's remakes reflect that.
Tizoc
Member
2 and 3 were likely still in development and thus they weren't ready to be shown, but had enough of Crash 1 to show.
The whole Vita thing is up to Activision.
XANDER CAGE
Member
The spin animation could use more work TBH. Looks primitive.
If anything, the spin should be a smear. Like this:
This is my gripe with the remaster right now - technically it looks very nice, but it looks way stiffer than the original in spots, mostly because the animation seems to kinda lack some of the Looney Tunes-esque smears and stretching the original had. Hopefully they can fine tune that stuff.
stargateheaven
Member
umm? what? you are able to play ps1 classics on vita for years.
???
Games are published under "Sony Computer Entertainment" banner so I thought it was Sony's doing.
You can't play Crash and Spyro PS1 games on Vita. They are not downloadable or transferrable.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Really don't think that means much considering ATVI owns the license
Depends on the country. In Australia you can play both the Crash and Spyro games, whereas I think they're not available in NA.
stargateheaven
Member
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
It's infuriating that they haven't fixed this by now.
Tizoc
Member
The Spyro and Crash classics have been vita compatible for EU Vita owners only for the longest time. JP PSN disabled their Vita compatibility some time this year.
Every PSOne Classic is published by SIE - excluding the import titles that are handled by Monkey Paw and Hamster. Despite this, it's possible that Sony's licensing of third party PSOne Classics only extends to PS3 and PSP, which requires separate publisher sign-off for Vita compatibility (remember PSOne Classics on Vita are just the PSP versions, as you can see by the warning screen that pops up whenever you boot one up).
lol, I was actually thinking of doing something like this.
I've seen people mention this, but I really want to emphasise it - as utterly pedantic as it is - WTF is going on with that font? It looks like some sort of generic Indiana Jones typeface; hopefully it's a placeholder.
If the game is releasing for Q4 2017, I imagine they'll (hopefully) touch up the visuals before release.At the risk of being that guy on the internet who boosts up the colours and contrast on a video to make it look how he thinks it should look, here's me doing that:
Fingers crossed the final product looks a bit brighter/bolder. The footage shown looks kinda drab in places, especially in some of the outdoor areas.
I quite like this, although Crash himself just ends up looking like a weird hazy orange blob in the process.So I was bored and made my own "what should Crash look like in HD".
I also drew in toon outlines because why not?
And here's a comparison with how the current game looks.
What do you think?
I've seen people mention this, but I really want to emphasise it - as utterly pedantic as it is - WTF is going on with that font? It looks like some sort of generic Indiana Jones typeface; hopefully it's a placeholder.
Surely it can't have been that hard to get the original font?
SafeinSound
Member
I think it looks great! I'm not really seeing any of the complaints, but maybe that's just my old man glasses.
Fbh
Member
Looking at some more footage.
It looks pretty good. The only thing I'm not sold on is the Crash model. From some angles he looks great, but in many of the close-ups he looks really weird.. more like some guy in a crash suit than an actual character
More like an in game version of this:
Than a HD version of the original.
It looks pretty good. The only thing I'm not sold on is the Crash model. From some angles he looks great, but in many of the close-ups he looks really weird.. more like some guy in a crash suit than an actual character
More like an in game version of this:
Than a HD version of the original.
Few complaints
Crashes model seems to be on the right track but his upper body looks too big, someone mentioned the live action guy in the suit design and it reminds me of that as well
The wumpas seem to sit for a good second before being collected, disturbing the flow of the game
Crashes stands on the boxes also for a split second before it registers him as stomping on the boxes, hopefully that'll be ironed out
Biggest complaint of all, what I feared would happen, the game has no charm. It really looks like someone went into cryengine or unreal engine 4 and just remade a few levels.
All of these things will mess with the 'feel' of the game. Crash 1 is the most simplest so if they don't get correct now, then 2 and 3 are gonna feel terrible once you start throwing boogie rocket boards, jet skis and motorcycles in it. Like why does donkey kong country returns look so much more vibrant compared to this?
Crashes model seems to be on the right track but his upper body looks too big, someone mentioned the live action guy in the suit design and it reminds me of that as well
The wumpas seem to sit for a good second before being collected, disturbing the flow of the game
Crashes stands on the boxes also for a split second before it registers him as stomping on the boxes, hopefully that'll be ironed out
Biggest complaint of all, what I feared would happen, the game has no charm. It really looks like someone went into cryengine or unreal engine 4 and just remade a few levels.
All of these things will mess with the 'feel' of the game. Crash 1 is the most simplest so if they don't get correct now, then 2 and 3 are gonna feel terrible once you start throwing boogie rocket boards, jet skis and motorcycles in it. Like why does donkey kong country returns look so much more vibrant compared to this?
At the risk of being that guy on the internet who boosts up the colours and contrast on a video to make it look how he thinks it should look, here's me doing that:
Fingers crossed the final product looks a bit brighter/bolder. The footage shown looks kinda drab in places, especially in some of the outdoor areas.
You can easily do this on your tv though. I did something similar last time I watched Man of Steel.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I believe Sierra now is not the same entity as Sierra from back then.
Sierra now is basically a subsidiary of Activision used just for indie titles.
Generic Power Ranger
Member
Even if they are tracing most of the gameplay, I really hope they fix the driving sections in the third game. Those have not aged well.
It's too bad CTR isn't part of this. At the same time, it's amazing that it's happening, and I'm looking forward to playing through the games again.
It's too bad CTR isn't part of this. At the same time, it's amazing that it's happening, and I'm looking forward to playing through the games again.
I feel like most of the issues people have with the visuals stem back to the style of lighting they're using. Compared with something like DCKR it seems very... naturalistic maybe? The models and art are pretty cartoony, but they're lit in a semi-realistic fashion.
Sure, but I'd prefer not to have to have a dedicated TV setting for one game
I'm actually happy for CTR to come later, if the trilogy sells well. It'll be good for Vicarious Visions to have these games as a warm-up.
The only good thing about the having to build these games up from scratch is that it means that if CTR does eventually come, it'll probably be easier to implement online rather than trying to retrofit it into twenty year-old code
Well CTR is a bit of a different beast than the original trilogy, no? How much could they reuse from this set besides art assets?
The only good thing about the having to build these games up from scratch is that it means that if CTR does eventually come, it'll probably be easier to implement online rather than trying to retrofit it into twenty year-old code
I love Crash Team Racing. Wish I still had my copy.
It looks realistic, but too clean. It looks cartoony, but not cartoony enough. The lighting itself is very flat, why is the beach lit the same way as when you enter the jungle surrounded by trees? Body stretching and funny faces were everywhere in Crash, that doesn't seem to be the case here. What will make or break this remaster is the temple levels. If they don't get that right then all of Crash 2 is going to be a atmosphereless slog and Crash 3 is gonna seem super weird.
I meant that it might be easier to implement online while also building CTR from the ground up like they're doing here. It's their own codebase on a modern engine so it's probably easier to code networking features into it rather than retrofit it.
It's such a good racer. It's on PSN (at least in NA) if you have a PS3 lying around.
Itchy//Tasty
Member
I loved this reveal, I do think the colours need to pop a bit more but it's mostly great. I'll definitely be picking this up.
I can imagine them turning their attention to CTR only if this game does well enough.
I can imagine them turning their attention to CTR only if this game does well enough.
Just looked at the store and it's there; cheap too. I keep forgetting that the store has PS1 games.
I actually bought Crash 1 and 3 on PSN a way back but havent installed them.
This might be a good time to play through it again.
Shadax the wizard
Member
Looks quite good!
I'd love to see CTR redone. The one thing that has always bothered me about the original is that, unlike MK64, you can't race in cups with a mixture of friends and bots, which, needless to say, wouldn't be an issue for a remake.
Shadax the wizard
Member
This needs to happen!
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Just put smears all over your TV to help. Maybe some Dorito dust finger smears since it's roughly the same color as Crash.The spin animation could use more work TBH. Looks primitive.
If anything, the spin should be a smear. Like this:
There, helped you out of a jam
Hot Coldman
Banned
to be honest I think VV making their own "Crash 4" is more likely than CTR Remastered if this does well
The PSN version has weird framerate issues. I've got the disc version as well and they aren't present.
That's unfortunate. I usually just played off the disc myself.
Ronan_Berthelot
Member
It will be multiplatform so there is a chance, yes. For the moment, the game is only announced on Playstation 4.
The perfect Dark
Banned
It's developed by Activision so I'd rather play my original games
