It's basically the thing from the Witcher that highlights lootable objects. Doesn't seem to do anything besides that. Nothing in the demo disnt really seemed to require it to be interacted with.
TBF, this is a tech thread and discussions as to AC game mechanics et al should probably be done in the impressions/preview threads.
You interested in picking up xbox one x?
I 99% agree with you.
Or in other words, there is a price to pay, in terms of IQ at the very least, for that efficiency. It's not a have your cake and eat it too situation.
More like have your cake and eat everything but the frosting
More like have your cake, and here's some cheaper frosting that looks and tastes exactly like the real thing, and you'll never know the difference unless you go digging through the trash for the receipt.
Relevance?
It depends. If all buffers are aimed at 4K and you're sparse rendering/checerboarding them, then yes. Especially at typicla TV viewing distances. You're goign to get artifacts in motion, you're going to get softness in motion but it's a fine trade off for the performance gain. I'd happily make it on my 3440x1440p monitor if I had the choice in most games.
BUT as is often the case with the Pro, the buffer actually targets lower than 4K whether dynamically or not, then things are a bit different I think and my frosting anology is closer to the truth... well as close as frosting and cakes cna get to the the truth... (which is VERY close)
Got you. The price of xbox one X isnt unreasonable to others who dont own PCs though. For many there is only one place to play xbox exclusives and thats on console. Ive got a pretty nice PC i built 2 years ago with a 980ti. Sure that thing could power through games still but im not looking to spend 6 to 8 hundred on a better card than my 980ti. I understand you. For me its just having the console and preferring to play there over my PC. Sure everyones case is different.
Will the 980ti still not beat what's in the One X? I have the same card, but my build is about five years old with a 3570k. I still feel like that beats the One X but I'm still getting it.
So what say you, do you think the One X version is going to have some extra sprinkles compared to the PS4 Pro version or what?
I would say the 980ti still beats whats in the X for sure by a long shot. That card is still a beast. Just prefer the console. In reference to my comment i was talking about upgrading in the near future. I would have to get a 1080ti, not to compete with the one x, but because its one of the best cards.
I 99% agree with you.
Or in other words, there is a price to pay, in terms of IQ at the very least, for that efficiency. It's not a have your cake and eat it too situation.
More like have your cake and eat everything but the frosting
I like their new arch and it's features, I'm really curious as to their SSD implementation as cache for games especially in titles that use megatextures or even Doom for that matter. I'm impressed even further by their high bandwidth cache system, which will significantly reduce latency whilst also supporting faster movement of large data sets in and from the graphics pipeline. Look at Geometry rendering on PRO for example, that will give significant gains in perf on titles which use such a rendering method.. I'm also thinking that we will see more implementations of even Checkerboard Rendering on PC as everybody loved how great it looked in WD2 on PC, and boy how much perf did that boost....Curious, why a Vega GPU? Especially since I think the 1080 Ti is going to potentially be cheaper, while also potentially outperforming Vega? Why does it feel like Vega is taking forever and a day to release???? Seriously, it felt at the start of the year like this thing was right around the corner, and then Nvidia beats them to the punch with not one, but seemingly two new cards, one of which is dr. evil levels of expensive though.
Yeah same here. Gotta say i love play anywhere. Bought most titles on x1 and played them at 1440p and 4k on my PC. After getting my 65 ks8000 i barely touch my PC now.
Curious, why a Vega GPU? Especially since I think the 1080 Ti is going to potentially be cheaper, while also potentially outperforming Vega? Why does it feel like Vega is taking forever and a day to release???? Seriously, it felt at the start of the year like this thing was right around the corner, and then Nvidia beats them to the punch with not one, but seemingly two new cards, one of which is dr. evil levels of expensive though.
From here on out, all technical discussions in this thread shall be done with cake and frosting analogies.
So what say you, do you think the One X version is going to have some extra sprinkles compared to the PS4 Pro version or what?
Let's not get carried away now. I guarantee this will look better on my PC and it's not tricked out at all.
Not sure if it counts as confirmation but it was said at E3 that both the Pro and X will run at 4K CBR. So it does look like they are going for parity again.
I know, I was literally there playing it at both xbox fanfest Monday night (same place they held their press briefing), and again a few times on the E3 show floor. I played no other title more than I played this at E3.
The developer I spoke to at xbox fanfest confirmed that the extra capability of the dev kit wasn't somehow showing a game different from the one you'll see on release. In fact, he suggested it's likely to end up better than what I was playing since Microsoft are still making improvements to the development environment which everyone expects, on top of the fact that their game is still in Alpha..
This is a picture I took prior to playing at the xbox fanfest event the monday night before E3.
It was on the table next to each dev kit, so I picked one up to take a picture and make sure I was ready once controller was in hand.
Sparse rendering and checkerboarding aren't different alternatives. One is a superset of the other.
No, not unless it gets patched. One X automatically improves resolution and framerate on games where those vary, but it can't force either thing to go higher than the original target. So Black Flag won't go above 900p, and it won't go above 30fps. Patched-in One X support would be necessary to remove these ceilings.
Actually, 4K is the most common buffer size on PS4 Pro. I'd have to recheck, but I believe 4K buffers are in fact the majority of all titles with increased resolution. (Of course, most games in general are still 1080p, which will also be the case for One X.)
From here on out, all technical discussions in this thread shall be done with cake and frosting analogies.
But only because most games don't have any resolution bump at all (which will also be true for One X). Of the games that do, the majority are 4K of some kind.
Again, this is true but basically because there are very few 900p games on standard PS4 to start with. There are a couple examples that almost certainly could be 2160c (though they made different choices).
Sorry, my bad, I meant Gears MP.
