This looked much smoother to me. Do you notice any stuttering when riding your horse? That was when I noticed it the most on the XB1 videos.
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Digital Foundry : Should you install The Witcher 3's day one patch ( XO version )
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kingwingin
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I just fired the game up and haven't gotten anywhere except that balcony here's another video where I gradually slow the camera down creating judder
No judder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0fCt7nRDUo
With judder
http://youtu.be/jO-O8iKX04s
Anyone who makes a video claiming frame pacing should make sure they have a steady thumb.
Pathfinder
Member
I understand, and I apologize for treating the issue as trivial when it genuinely affects you. That was wrong of me, I got emotional.
But my advice to you, and it's one I started taking to heart last year, is stop pre-ordering games. We all like games, and we all want to play games that we're waiting for the very minute we can.
It sucks when publishers rush devs and don't give them enough time to complete the products. It sucks for the devs, it sucks for us, and it's probably not going to change anytime soon because it's part of how the industry works right now. The ability to patch games is very much a dual-edged sword, and publishers know they can start taking our money as soon as possible because of our thirst for their games, so that gives them less incentive to delay games until they're done.
The only thing we can do about it is try to exercise patience and not buy a game until issues are resolved. I know it's tough, but we have to make a stand somehow.
Jessie.Bristol
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.... I can't stop preordering games I genuinely want to play
. I don't think part of the problem was the game was rushed, but I think in the case of the Xbox One version the frame pacing issue is exacerbated by not having the game capped at 30fps instead of being unlocked. It would at least make that version more in-line with the PS4 version, as the PS4 version doesn't seem to be as bad with regard to frame pacing (based on the videos I have seen).Thanks for the help. It's kind of you to take time out to upload videos.
kingwingin
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my pleasure, wish I was further into the game to get forest videos for you but maybe another person with a steady thumb can upload some
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Man I'm glad I'm apparently not sensitive to it. I don't see any difference. The only thing that bothered me was the garbage 2D looking foliage.
why are you correcting the consumer when the problem is publishers and devs pushing unfinished work? Let's maybe point the blame at the reviewers and everyone else who spiked the Witcher 3 football before it could even run properly.
seriously who the hell reviewed this game and gave it praise? Literally, how? why the hell are preoders so high in the first place? What came first the chicken or the egg?
1080p menus tho
Ricerocket
Member
You really don't see it? It's constantly stopping and resuming as he is just rotating the cam. That is definitely annoying.
Pathfinder
Member
The reviewers who gave it high praise are at fault too. It's a vicious cycle.
But consumers also share some of the blame for buying something without even seeing it or evaluating it first. You wouldn't buy a car without test driving it, or reading consumer reports.
If a car cost $60 though I might.
Pathfinder
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Well, I meant more like the level of complexity involved in both products and the various things that can go wrong.
Performance analysis is up :
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-witcher-3-wild-hunt-performance-analysis
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-witcher-3-wild-hunt-performance-analysis
Pretty strange performance on the PS4 version. I haven't watched the video, but the article made it sound bad.
Cthulhu_Steev
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Yeah. that's just put me off buying this for PS4. I'm not massively interested, but would like to play it.
I've preordered Arkham Knight (part of the problem, I know, but I love the RS Arkham games) and I can see it going down the same road as the Witcher on consoles and PC performance-wise. I think next month we're going to see a repeat:
- Unoptimised on consoles
- PC version with added features such as 'higher framerate!', 'more res!', 'better shadows (maybe)!'.
- Buggy open world. Batcar gets stuck on buildings, Batcar clips corners and falls into Burnout world, Visiting the Attic may corrupt guardians in 'Out on a Limb' or cause instant death when visiting The Chapel'.
Yes, I am surprised, too. But taken from http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1048758 it seems that Witcher 3 PC is sensible to CPU power with higher resolutions (this doesn't necessarily translate to consoles, though).
CDPR really should cap the framerate (perhaps resulting in a locked framerate) on Xbone with a new patch. I am especially surprised by low fps during cut-scenes.
Stare-Bear
Banned
Does the 1.02 patch for ps4 only contain DLC enabling stuff or are there any performance improvements? Because the digital foundry test is only using 1.01.
Been playing a few hours, haven't noticed the fps drops they are talking about, although some of the early cutscenes did struggle a bit.
Been playing a few hours, haven't noticed the fps drops they are talking about, although some of the early cutscenes did struggle a bit.
Cthulhu_Steev
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Cut scenes rendered at 24.97/29.97 fps and somehow Vsync kicking in dropping it to 20fps? I don't know, but it's annoying and odd (PS4 version).
Chobel
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I'm not sure what you mean by the bold text? Because to my knowledge, CPU doesn't affect resolution.
Look at the video in the thread - CPU usage goes down as he changes the resolution down.
Chobel
Member
Ah OK, thanks! I'll check that out.
So PS4 wins by 1 bread:
Better texture filtering on ps4 or just the plus side of a higher resolution?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It appears both of your videos have a judder, but one is certainly more apparent (or worse) then the other. Could be part of how YouTube deals with it a 60fps video might help show it better or a natively captured video not garbled by YouTube.
Thanks though as it does show some difference in it's current form.
Chobel
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So I watched the video, and actually CPU usage goes up as he changes the resolution down, which kinda expected because of the higher framerate.
Yes, there are even better images to compare and I am not sure still. Could be better AF AND better resolution... But I guess we can be glad that at least both feature some kind of filtering.
1.21Gigawatts
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I only "clicked" on several time steps in the video and it showed more cpu usage in higher resolution so perhaps my data points I randomly chose were just bad
Hoho for breakfast
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Oh lol the camera stopping repeatedly is the judder? I was looking within the scene itself. I thought the person panning the camera was just rotating it like that. Christ that is bad if that's the judder people are talking about.
The only issues I had with the D1 patch yesterday was, beside the video stuttering, occasionally audio distortions and a nasty graphics bug.
A restart of the game fixed the graphics bug at least... but the audio distortions lasted
Lol, almost as good as UNITY's zombie
I'd say Ps4 texture filtring is a tiny bit better:
Cutscene or gameplay? Because that difference is quite large.
TechMaster360
Banned
So the XB1 version looks like it rarely drops below 30fps during gameplay, so why didn't the just cap it like the PS4 version? Am I missing an obvious reason.
Anyway, both versions look pretty good to me
Anyway, both versions look pretty good to me
BlackNinja
Banned
You are in for a long miserable generation....
Yea me too, if they cap the XB1 than it would run almost 30 locked and much better than the PS4 version?
TechMaster360
Banned
That's what I was thinking but I guess there is a reason why they didn't - also the PS4 run's at a higher res so I guess it would end up a res vs framerate choice as to which version you buy
Well, "much". The PS4 has problems to keep the framerate at 30 but it doesn't go very deep down to 20 so the difference won't be that much but apparently better, yes.
As to differences between the two versions, the most obvious seems to be resolution (and a bit better filtering) which is by now resposible to the difference in fps.
I consider myself lucky that I'm not sensitive to those things, having an absolute blast with the PS4 version.
Of course there is a reason. There was also a reason why the famous GTA5 patch made both console versions look worse.
Windom Earle
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edit: reading fail
TechMaster360
Banned
I would be interested what the reason is
I think we all do
Perhaps we will soon. But even if we don't, the most important thing is they should fix it asap. There is no obvious reason to not cap the framerate.Cthulhu_Steev
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I'll be fine, thank you. Even with AAA fuck ups I have more games to play and enjoy than I can ever get through in a lifetime. poor framerates and resolutions don't have a massive impact on my love for gaming, but it's annoying when something as ambitious and beautiful as the witcher 3 manages to stumble at the fps hurdle. I have no doubt it will be fixed in time, but it should have been ready for launch.
FranXico
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They do prefer that the PS4 version by virtue of it being capped to 30 fps, but even then there are performance inconsistencies.
I think CDPR might have done better to postpone their release a tad longer, but it is what it is. The way they handled PR, combined with the performance issues impacting all versions have left a lot of people a tad disappointed in them.
Pathfinder
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I am amazed at how tame the comments are on the performance article.
The game seems to have positives and negatives on both consoles, so it sounds like it's mostly a wash.
The game seems to have positives and negatives on both consoles, so it sounds like it's mostly a wash.
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