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[NotUS]

I'm sure the TV Guide will tout Xbox One as the console to get.

 

[Alchemist]

But then, Edge are all about the hits, expect a pro Xbox headline in the near future.

You changed your tune quick.

 

[Evilisk]

For some reason I was reminded of the SCEA Logo

 

[Huggers]

That was a classic. I remember the sheer meltdown on the old Edge forums over it.



Bad sign if Edge is saying PS4 but then I'm weary enough to remember the entire "EDGE IS SONY BIASED!" saga of 2006 and the amount of reverse ferrets Edge has always pulled.

Yep, classic. It was the issue that gave Halo 10/10. At the time they'd only ever dished out a handful of perfect scores.

They're not biased but prone to making bold sometimes slightly sensationalist statements, especially on their covers. I like it. Makes me want to read their stance. Surely that's mission accomplished for them?

 

[BrokenSymmetry]

EDGE is a magazine in the same vein as The Economist: Both mix "opinion" and "facts" in the same articles, and both are not afraid to make clear choices. See how The Economist always makes a statement about who should win the American presidential elections.

 

[Castef]

Im hoping the PS4 brings the golden era of gaming back like the PS2 generation.

Now, now. This is interesting.

Could you provide more information about the definition of "the golden era of gaming"?

 

[JDSN]

From https://twitter.com/tomwarren

Senior Editor at The Verge and founder of WinRumors. Primarily focused on Microsoft news and reviews. Personal account, my own opinions.

I see.

 

[Shadders]

My real question here is: why did Edge ever pick up a reputation as pro-MS?

I think because they're very pro-Halo, which people expand into being pro-MS.

 

[JehutyGR]

For some reason I was reminded of the SCEA Logo

That's the first thing that crossed my mind, the second was holy shieet.

 

[NekoFever]

I wish.

 

[madmackem]

For some reason I was reminded of the SCEA Logo

Good spot, knowing edge and covers youve just found the reason for the angle of the ps4 on the cover.

 

[Man]

The Steve Jobs next logo is burned into my head whenever I see such a shape.

 

[hooijdonk17]

There's such a thing as integrity. A games journalist is expected to not show any bias when it comes to all platforms. That headline is pure Daily Mail levels of shit.

Is this really what we have been reduced to? Do actual journalists who publish anything other than glorified advertorials come across as lacking integrity?

I fucking hate the 21st century.

Corporations have robbed us of all sense of self worth.

 

[dapperbandit]

EDGE just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about game journalist culture (I'm an expert), but non-confrontation and appeasing publishers are huge parts of it. It's not like Nintendo where they dont give a shit because they have Nintendo Directs. If you screw someone over Microsoft, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the UK public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Edge, they will also start reading Polygon. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but EDGE has alienated an entire market with this move.

EDGE, publicly apologize to MS, Mattrick and Balmer or you can kiss your business goodbye.

haha

 

[twobear]

They're saying more and they're saying it in a sensationalist way ("Xbox One's road to ruin"). It's possible this was pre-180, in which case I might cut them *some* slack, but this way it's really unfortunate.

I think even with the 180 there's a lot to lambast them for. The fact that they considered it in the first place, the fact that they just changed a huge piece of their console hardly inspires confidence, the fact that they are being constantly evasive in their PR, etc.

This is not comparable and it should be obvious why.

Because gamers generally have the emotional security of four year-olds and can't deal with their favourite company being called out in public? That's the most significant one I can see.

You're dodging the question at which point an "opinion" and "taking a stance" is too much. When is there too much hyperbole? It's also a bit amusing how you downplay the headline, while to proclaim that "if you have to 'crank up the hyperbole' to make a point you've failed to make one'", when the latter makes it obvious why taking a stance in such a way is something I'd rather not see.

I'm not dodging the question at all. I'm saying that you can't present me with an absurdly hyperbolic hypothetical alternative and then use that to claim that the actual article is out of line.

The front cover of a publication in any other industry proclaiming 'WHY X IS YOUR NEW Y' wouldn't even bat an eyelid. In gaming it's 'LOL SHOTS FIRED THEY'RE PWNED' and 'JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY! THIS IS OVERSTEPPING A LINE!'.

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

EDGE just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about game journalist culture (I'm an expert), but non-confrontation and appeasing publishers are huge parts of it. It's not like Nintendo where they dont give a shit because they have Nintendo Directs. If you screw someone over Microsoft, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the UK public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Edge, they will also start reading Polygon. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but EDGE has alienated an entire market with this move.

EDGE, publicly apologize to MS, Mattrick and Balmer or you can kiss your business goodbye.

 

[Liha]

For some reason I was reminded of the SCEA Logo

You are right :O

 

[SarcasticD]

 

[StrongArmSteady]

haha

lol, more victims

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

What? They've been a downward spiral since the Godawful redesign from a couple years ago.

Everything has gone to shit. The writing, the reviews, etc. It's a shadow of its former self.

Unfortunately, that's absolutely true. I also stopped buying Edge around the time of the format change, and it was not because of the redesign. It's not that there's no quality stuff left in Edge, but their content has been extremely inconsistent lately. I mean, they published this thing in one of their latest issues, for Christ's sake.

 

[JehutyGR]

EDGE just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about game journalist culture (I'm an expert), but non-confrontation and appeasing publishers are huge parts of it. It's not like Nintendo where they dont give a shit because they have Nintendo Directs. If you screw someone over Microsoft, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the UK public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Edge, they will also start reading Polygon. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but EDGE has alienated an entire market with this move.

EDGE, publicly apologize to MS, Mattrick and Balmer or you can kiss your business goodbye.

Excellent.

 

[Squire]

What's worse, having a very clear bias that's easily detectable by people that read/listen to what you're saying while denying that it's there or being upfront about your choice?

Honesty is appreciated. I don't think it's better than what I've presented, but I do appreciate it.

 

[hodgy100]

EDGE just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about game journalist culture (I'm an expert), but non-confrontation and appeasing publishers are huge parts of it. It's not like Nintendo where they dont give a shit because they have Nintendo Directs. If you screw someone over Microsoft, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the UK public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Edge, they will also start reading Polygon. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but EDGE has alienated an entire market with this move.

EDGE, publicly apologize to MS, Mattrick and Balmer or you can kiss your business goodbye.

I was waiting for this!

 

[boredandlazy]

EDGE just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about game journalist culture (I'm an expert), but non-confrontation and appeasing publishers are huge parts of it. It's not like Nintendo where they dont give a shit because they have Nintendo Directs. If you screw someone over Microsoft, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the UK public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Edge, they will also start reading Polygon. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but EDGE has alienated an entire market with this move.

EDGE, publicly apologize to MS, Mattrick and Balmer or you can kiss your business goodbye.

You serious?

 

[Jamie OD]

I'm getting "Year of the PS3" vibes from the cover.

 

[stryke]

You serious?

Very much so.

 

[NekoFever]

You serious?

You must be new here.

 

[Sean*O]

Dry and balls deep.

Seriously though, the Xbone reveal and the events surrounding it is one of the biggest stories in video game history, and just might be one of the most colossul fuckups in the history of big business.

Why shouldn't they cover it honestly instead of sweeping it under the rug. Im aware they are trying to tap into the current prevailing sentiment of their audience but you cant really deny how incredibly bad MS screwed this up.

So they get a pass in my book. MS reversed policy but many people who heard about the former will not be aware of that, maybe not for a long time to come.

I dont want MS or any other to ever consider attempting this again so the more heat they take the better.

 

[MikeJAMoran]

I love how this thread has devolved into a debate over what journalists fundamentally do, moneyhats, ad/ed split and reputation.

 

[Guymelef]

For some reason I was reminded of the SCEA Logo

SCEI

 

[Steve McQueen]

Me myself, I am a subsciber and I could not live without EDGE. In my opinion, EDGE is by far the best gamesmag around and most of the time the are legit ......sure there is some bs in each issue, but that's the gamesindustry, it's all about rumours, gossip, predictions and hype.

 

[Souless_PJ]

EDGE about dat life

 

[sflufan]

Much ado about nothing.

 

[PnCIa]

As if there is any "integrity" in game journalism. They may just come out in the open and show what they think and who paid more.

 

[pa22word]

Ugh, dreadful advertorial level shit from edge. Truly this is the industry of the "enthusiast press".

 

[MikeJAMoran]

Unfortunately, that's absolutely true. I also stopped buying Edge around the time of the format change, and it was not because of the redesign. It's not that there's no quality stuff left in Edge, but their content has been extremely inconsistent lately. I mean, they published this thing in one of their latest issues, for Christ's sake.

That's a column.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Honesty is appreciated. I don't think it's better than what I've presented, but I do appreciate it.

I agree. At least you know where they stand if you choose to read their issues. I definitely prefer publications to just be upfront about where they stand, even though it's extremely rare. Same goes for gamers. But you'll often times see gamers hide behind the "I own all consoles, so I can't be biased!" line.

 

[boredandlazy]

You must be new here.

They don't call me junior because I'm senior!

 

[MikeJAMoran]

This is getting ridiculous.

Ugh, dreadful advertorial level shit from edge. Truly this is the industry of the "enthusiast press".

You haven't read the article.

 

[Evilisk]

SCEI

Is it? Oh well I typed SCEA logo and got the same results anyway lol

 

[seventynine]

That's a column.

He's rattled and grasping at straws.

 

[pa22word]

And what if the facts indeed point to PS4 being practically the only good choice for consumers?

Then present those facts and let the readers come to that conclusion naturally, without you doing marketing's job for them.

Seriously why am I even bothering to explain this? Fuck...

You haven't read the article.

What? I don't have to. That cover is an advertisement for the PS4, and I hope Sony paid them well for it.

 

[marc^o^]

I read GameKult, GameBlog, etc. journalists on twitter, where they speak their own opinions and not the more conservative tone they use in their articles. And from what I read I think this Edge editorial is a common appreciation in the industry.

 

[Nocturno999]

Someone should find the famous cover Edge did with the cracked Mario face saying "Is Nintendo Breaking Up?" during the N64 vs. PS1 era.

Actually, wasn't that Next Generation magazine?

Yes, it's Next Generation Magazine which was affiliated with Edge. I'm pretty sure I have that issue somewhere.

That N64 article was very accurate and they also did a great Sega Saturn article detailing the console's terrible launch.

 

[Kane1345]

Man, that's a huge thing for EDGE to say outright

 

[boredandlazy]

Then present those facts and let the readers come to that conclusion naturally, without you doing marketing's job for them.

Seriously why am I even bothering to explain this? Fuck...

You do realise the article is supposed to be inside the magazine rather than on the cover?
The cover is designed to sell, let's see what the article says first and if it's full of shit, bleat away.

 

[DieH@rd]

MS tried to screw us, and then said sorry when people started throwing money on PS4.

We should never forget their crazy powergrabbing move, I agree with Edge. MS needs to get trough several years of grilling, and they need to prove their dedication to customers [removing H3 and A2 was not a good move] and be better than their competitors.

 

[Shizzlee]

EDGE living on da edge.

 

[pa22word]

You do realise the article is supposed to be inside the magazine rather than on the cover?

It doesn't matter what the article says when the conclusion is already presented to you on the cover.

 

[Respawn]

Now that's a damn KO.