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EU PSN's 12 Deals of Christmas 2013 starts on Dec. 1st
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slaughterking
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No idea, but the page on the web store says you need at least an 8GB card. I think the patches alone were like a gig each.
While that Killzone is a good price, by the time I have time to play it, if I ever want to play it, I'm sure the retail card will be same price or cheaper. Also I only have 8GB lol.
I'm confused. You can't be on a secondary account through Remote Play.
I'm confused. You can't be on a secondary account through Remote Play.
slaughterking
Member
I'm pretty sure P4G (and Bioshock Infinite) are supposed to be part of a future IGC update.
Interesting, thanks for that I didn't realise. Any idea what the last Vita game will be? has there been any hints?
Dragon1893
Member
I'm going to be so damn disappointed if P4G doesn't go on sale. The game never had a decent discount here, they can still make a ton of money from it, hard to believe they'd put it on PS+ before milking it, the game would sell a ton with a good deal now.
Could be or P4G will be in the Christmas sale next week, that Chris Howe spoke about on the blog as I really don't think it'll be on Plus for free.
Chris Howe said:
Link
Anyway, only PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate HD for me so far, also waiting for P4G.
Agreed. The idea of that game being on Instant Game Collection is mind boggling.
lol that GTAV price is terrible. Killzone price is a good value though. Having played Mercenary and Shadowfall, I definitely think Mercenary is the better game.
Metalmurphy
Member
When I say secondary I don't mean sub account. I have two accounts on ps4, only one of them is paired with my vita, but my ps4 purschases are not done on that one. Still all other games work through remote play.
King Gilga
Member
Killzone is tempting.
1 or 2 pounds cheaper and it would have been in insta buy territory.
1 or 2 pounds cheaper and it would have been in insta buy territory.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Mercs is a good price, but you'll need at least an 8gb memory card, 16 would be preferable due to the size of the patches.
GTA5 - eh.
What's today's movie?
toastyToast
Member
Great price on Killzone. Not that I need another FPS in my life but how's the multiplayer population?
Now I get what you mean.
Fast and Furious 6.
Nah, the latest patch overwrote the previous ones and was a lot smaller. Only around 350MB instead of 1.2GB. So combined with the game which is 3.4GB that's still only 3.75GB.
It's 3.7GB patches included.
Black Duke
Neo Member
I see 44.95€ for GTAV...
TimFL
Member
Managed to snag AC4 just before the deal ended and purchased the upgrade to PS4. I hate my PS4. Got the free Killzone weekend already installed and it thinks its necessary to download a Killzone patch, 5 DLCs for AC4, the AC4 patch and game at once. Why can't they give us a queue feature already?
The pause option is nowhere to be found...
The pause option is nowhere to be found...
D
Deleted member 125677
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Killzone eh?
Atlus don't want my money
Atlus don't want my money
FoxhoundNL
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Buy Killzone guys, it's great. Especially MP, played it more than I did GTAV.
ToVenusAndBack
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I've been really unsure about P4G. You guys really do give it a good sell but I just don't know if I'll enjoy a JRPG. Never played one before.
A nice discount on it would seriously make me take the plunge
A nice discount on it would seriously make me take the plunge
You should get into the genre, it's one of the best because you feel like you're getting a full package considering how in-depth these games can be.
Anyway Persona is designed well enough that it can appeal to those that don't like JRPGs as well. You can play it on easier difficulties and just mainly enjoy it for its story if you want. Definitely, definitely buy it even if it doesn't end up going on sale.
It's not unusual for people that don't like jRPG or that are sick of them to enjoy P4G.
That's not to say that you're assured to fall in love with the game, but having played/liked JRPG's wouldn't necessary be a good indicator if you would like P4G or not.
Personally I think it's a great game with a lot of content, and if you end up liking the game it will be money well worth.
Unfortunately there's no demo for you to test it out, but it's not really the type of game that would translate well to a demo anyway.
Mercenary patch 1.03 is apparently only around 300mb though. They trimmed it down to make it more accessible to players with small memory cards (like me).
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/620272-playstation-vita/68027898
Not sure if it's completely true, but I did see a story about it on IGN a few weeks back. Can anyone with the game confirm the patch and game install size? I'm tempted to buy this.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/620272-playstation-vita/68027898
Not sure if it's completely true, but I did see a story about it on IGN a few weeks back. Can anyone with the game confirm the patch and game install size? I'm tempted to buy this.
Black Duke
Neo Member
39 = 53$
doniewhalberg
Member
Yup just bought it, downloaded and installed, including patch. Patch was 300mb-odd, full install sitting on my vita right now isss 3.776gb, to be exact haha.
Pretty sure he was talking about Australian dollars.
Also, everybody here seems to forget that Euro prices (and I believe AU prices as well) include VAT, which, in Europe, can be as high as 27%.
If anything, be mad at your government - they are adding a 27% premium on top of what a retailer is asking.
EDIT And also, do not forget the outrageous income taxes. As much as 56.6% of your income is going to the government - and that's before you pay for any other taxes.
But hey, you've got to pay if you want cheap or free services such as education and healthcare.
Cool, that includes the patch? I might opt for this then. I just hope this'll fit properly on a 4GB.
S¡mon;94356853 said:
It isn't our government's tax, they are actually trying to get these companies to lower their prices to no avail. Google, Apple, Microsoft etc.
Sony are well known for charging much more for products in Australia. Both with their hardware, games and digital games/content.
Cool, that includes the patch? I might opt for this then. I just hope this'll fit properly on a 4GB.
Eh....make sure you have enough space after formatting the 4GB card, because you don't get 4GB of storage space.
Metalmurphy
Member
Ok, AC4 is now working. I only needed to run the game with the account that bought it before it worked on other accounts. I'm guessing the game activation only happens when you run the gameon ps4 and not during the download like on ps3
doniewhalberg
Member
Cool, that includes the patch? I might opt for this then. I just hope this'll fit properly on a 4GB.
Yes, full thing sitting there is 3.776gb, everything included. Only thing I've not got yet is a savefile, no idea the sizes you're talknig about there, which is why i rounded up to 3.8gb. As someone said though, I'm not entirely sure you get the full 4gb out of your 4 gb card, so I'm not sure where you'll be at spacewise.
DeadlyVirus
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GTA5 was like that on the PS3
I just checked my savefile, it's just 960kb, so that's not a problem. He just have to check how big the 4GB card really is after formatting it.
slaughterking
Member
Memory Card capacity is 3822MB. That's cutting it really close. No idea if the system needs a couple of MB to install things.
And the story page recommends an 8GB card anyway.
Okay, let's look at it from a different way. Don't know how it works in Australia, but for Europe:
A normal PS4 game costs €59.99 at most retailers. 21% VAT. 59.99/121*100 = €49.58.
€49.58 = $68.16, or basically the American Recommended Retail Price.
You are not paying more than the American RRP. And someone who keeps his eye out, will find lower prices than €59.99.
Hardware
You were also talking about hardware. Let's take the €399 PS4. €329.75 without VAT. €329.75 = $450 (exhange rate: €1.37 = $1).
So, a $50 premium. And why is that?
- Euro-Dollar exchange rate buffer
In the past five years, the Euro has been worth as little as €1.19 = $1, but also as high as €1.51 = $1. There needs to be a buffer, since basically the world economy is mostly focused on the Dollar.
- Additonal government taxes
EU import taxes, additional local taxes (such as a $10 'copying levy' in the Netherlands), environment taxes, etc.
- Shipping
Shipping to Europe (from Asia) is slightly more expensive than shipping to, for example, the United States. Not much, but the difference is there.
- Extra year of warranty
Europeans get an additional year of warranty, compared to what Americans get.
I get what you are saying, because yes, Europeans pay a small premium... but the premium isn't as high as you think - and there's a good reason why you pay slightly more.
The real cost is the VAT, which, as has been said, can be as high as 27% in Europe. But hey, healthcare is generally quite good in Europe and accessible to way more people than in the US.
Hamster Plugin
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S¡mon;94361089 said:
You could be right, but games actually cost 69.99. The 59.99 price point is the minimum I can find any new PS3 game and that's through searching all stores. I can't find PS4 games any lower than 64.99. This is in Finland.
$60 = 43.80. Add 24% Finnish VAT (done by dividing by 0.76) and it'll be 57.70. Quite close to the 60 price you mentioned, but sadly that is not the case - it's 70.
Also, keep in mind that most people complaining about prices are from the UK. There is a heavy price disparity between UK and other European countries. UK often gets games 30% cheaper than other Europeans.
Off-topic, but I have to point out that distributors take a quite a big cut in Finland since big retailers force them to give refunds for copies that don't get sold (otherwise they refuse to carry the distributor's games). For example some PS3 games cost retailer 49 euros per copy. The retailers blame the high VAT, but it's actually them and the distributors who are to blame.
Whitebison
Member
Is the Killzone multiplayer still active in the vita?
PS4, bizarrely, can't download Vita games like the PS3 can.
LiquidSolid
Member
Same reason why you can't find PS3 or PS4 PS+ games on your Vita PS Store. When Sony patch in the ability to download and transfer Vita games to Vita's, they'll add them to the store.
I know this is a broken record but I'm honestly amazed at how fucking terrible the PS Store is (on all systems). The way they just edit the below paragraph into game descriptions when they're on sale is so hilariously amateur, I'd be embarrassed if I were a Sony exec.
There's a lot wrong with Steam (which Enhanced Steam helps greatly with) but the difference between those stores is night and day regardless of the scale of their sales. Features like trading cards, cloud saves, etc. are clearly displayed for every game that supports them, while on the PS Store, things like cross-buy seems like a guessing game most of the time.
They need to hire designers that understand how to design a fucking game store. And they also need to hire far more competent teams to actually manage the stores.