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F-ZERO (SNES) is 30 cents FEB 20th to MAR 21st on the Wii U eShop
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Vampirolol
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I've never played this game before and I'm having so much fun! Maximum Velocity is worse than this and GX is just the right evolution, but the gameplay of the original is so good. Way ahead of its time...
if this game isn't great, I don't know what a great game is anymore.
Robin64
Member
Made the general VC score thread! Here it is.
FZX is the actual evolution. GX just polished that.
it bothers me when people forget about FZX and how it evolved the series.
Vampirolol
Member
Well I was talking about the F-Zero games I played, FZX is surely the real evolution. 60 fps FTW
ah i see. something that i've noticed is that a lot of people seemed to have missed that game despite it having alright sales.
AkimbO_Arcana
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Great contribution... Now please go and count the
X is my favourite! Dat Speed :O
alf717
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This doesn't seem to have that ugly blur like Balloon Fight has. Hope this continues with the rest of Wii U VC titles.
Wondering if anyone else is experiencing this but it sounds like the left speaker is slightly louder than the right speaker on my Gamepad. Not an big issue for me but I was just curious. Maybe it is time to clean out my ears. =D
Wondering if anyone else is experiencing this but it sounds like the left speaker is slightly louder than the right speaker on my Gamepad. Not an big issue for me but I was just curious. Maybe it is time to clean out my ears. =D
Robin64
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NES games have to be scaled horizontally to achieve the correct aspect ratio and then they're upscaled again in all directions to increase the size. It's no surprise they don't look amazing.
SNES games though have no ratio correction and what seems like a nice bilinear 4.5x scale. Much better results.
alf717
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Interesting I didn't know this. Does this mean that if no scaling was done the image would be really small on both the TV and Gamepad? NES games look great on the Wii which is why the blur on Balloon Fight kind of bothered me.
JoshuaJSlone
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Don't the vast majority of both NES and SNES games output at 256x224? If they were really strict about getting a 4:3 image they'd have to alter both in the same way, but nobody seems to care much. Even if they did need to adjust for ratio, though, the results could be pretty clean on TV--1344x1008 works pretty well. Scales X by 5.25 and Y by 4.5.
I think Balloon Fight used 4.5x bilinear, but F-Zero is something else. In Paint Shop Pro it's called "weighted average", but going by Google that doesn't seem to be a widely used term so I don't know what to call it. At any rate, the effect is as if they blew it up 9x nearest neighbor, then halved it.
Tiny, yeah. A straight doubling would look pretty good on Gamepad, though, it would just have a slight border on top and bottom.alf717 said:
alf717
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Don't the vast majority of both NES and SNES games output at 256x224? If they were really strict about getting a 4:3 image they'd have to alter both in the same way, but nobody seems to care much. Even if they did need to adjust for ratio, though, the results could be pretty clean on TV--1344x1008 works pretty well. Scales X by 5.25 and Y by 4.5.
I think Balloon Fight used 4.5x bilinear, but F-Zero is something else. In Paint Shop Pro it's called "weighted average", but going by Google that doesn't seem to be a widely used term so I don't know what to call it. At any rate, the effect is as if they blew it up 9x nearest neighbor, then halved it.
Tiny, yeah. A straight doubling would look pretty good on Gamepad, though, it would just have a slight border on top and bottom.
Very detailed. Thank you. I'm kind of getting into the whole aspect ratio / filtering tech stuff. Granted I have a lot to learn but I usually just trust my eyes when it comes to stuff like this and Balloon Fight stood out. One day I may tackle retro on an LCD but not before I get one of those Framemeister scalers.
Well, I played it for the first time last night and I found it to be enjoyable.
I think its simplicity is charming. Also looked pretty good on the gamepad.
dreamer3kx
Member
Dpad or analog for you, I still feel more comfortable with dpad, I just cant play these VC snes or nes games with analog.
gingerbeardman
Member
I've been using Wii Classic Controller and then tonight remembered I have a Mayflash NES & SNES to Wii adapter in my box of tricks. So now I'm using an original SNES controller and all is right with the world.
Finally broke the magical 2min barrier on Mute city. Took about 200+ tries even after playing this game competitive so long on Snes. Still need to beat my old personal record.
Mute City is the equilivant of Monanco as far as I'm concerned.
I've got a Wii SNES controller, the perfect way to play it.
When I use the GamePad, I use the dpad. The only other thing I can tolerate for 2D gaming is the 3DS CirclePad.
Starsunder
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Ended up getting the game and yup don't like it. Controls better then the GBA version (which I only played when I got it on the 3DS) but still do not like how the early version of the series controled. Mario Kart can be really cheap with the attacks, especially once you hit first place. Make one mistake in F-Zero and it can send you bouncing and end up destroyed. Now remember why I never liked this game as a kid. I remembered disliking it but not I know exactly why. It feels like there is no room for error.
We're getting close to that Spring update, aren't we? It has to be sometime in March or April. I wonder how many titles they're going to make available at launch? Perhaps 7-10 NES games and 3-6 SNES games?
ZeroGravity
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Well on harder difficulties, no. That's what makes it hard. This is what F-Zero is.
That's why mario kart and f-zero are so different. Appealing to different audiences. Being unforgiving isn't necessarily a negative.
Heart of Black
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Why can't SNES games run on the 3DS... this is stupid.
fabricated backlash
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It's just a great arcade racer and the tracks are still imprinted into my brain. Allthough I'm nowhere near as good as I used to be as a kid.
I also love how the game gets a ton of love on Miiverse and everyone praises the 60hz release.
I also love how the game gets a ton of love on Miiverse and everyone praises the 60hz release.
Finally played for the first time in 20 years... and it feels as good as back in those days.
Gameplay is really tight and the Grand Prix is actually challenging. Best 30 cents spent ever !
I also did some records for the first cup, but I can only remember from memory 2'26"86 for Sand Ocean and 1'46"01 for Death Wind. Will provide pictures later.
Gameplay is really tight and the Grand Prix is actually challenging. Best 30 cents spent ever !
I also did some records for the first cup, but I can only remember from memory 2'26"86 for Sand Ocean and 1'46"01 for Death Wind. Will provide pictures later.
I'd say the game is an acquired taste for me. Purchased it because, hey, 30 cents, and it's been growing on me quickly, so addictive, engaging in the classical "Just One More" gamer's attitude. Every day this gets more and more prominence on the Daily Log...Even when I'm having my ass handled to me in a golden plate, I love every second. Hardcore instincts showing up!
Miiverse integration is also a wonderful idea for the Virtual Console, to say nothing of the Gamepad, what a revelation this has been after playing the Ambassador's F-Zero on the original 3DS. Can't wait for VC proper to come.
Miiverse integration is also a wonderful idea for the Virtual Console, to say nothing of the Gamepad, what a revelation this has been after playing the Ambassador's F-Zero on the original 3DS. Can't wait for VC proper to come.
JoshuaJSlone
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No technical reason. Hell, there are halfway decent homebrew SNES emulators for original DS. And a quarter-decent one for GBA.
Anything up to but not including the N64 is feasible, and everything up to and including the GBA is also possible. Anything above those points and you get to problems with emulation, or (in the N64's case) differing number of buttons.
JoshuaJSlone
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Though in N64's case I imagine most could still control decently. The C buttons would have two face buttons, the d-pad, or virtual buttons on the touch screen to work with.
Maybe, but how would the Z-trigger figure in? You'd have to go at it in a game by game case, and it'd be weird having controls for the same system continually change. It'd also force Nintendo to give us customizable controls on the 3DS.
JoshuaJSlone
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The shoulders are fine--no game could use all of N64's buttons simultaneously, so usually L would act as Z. Customizable controls would be a good thing, and luckily starting with the Wii U VC Nintendo finally seems to accept it too. I guess I'd make the default setup be that the C buttons are all both mapped to the d-pad and C button images on the touch screen, with X/Y left blank until changed by the user.
Vampirolol
Member
Can't stop playing. Now I'm in the crowd asking for a sequel, even if this game is anti-casual!
Neff
Member
Take your thumb off the accelerator very briefly, then on again. This will re-stabilize you when you become inertia-prone from walls, boosts, and knocks from opponents. It's the cornerstone of F-Zero play. Playing as a car with good grip will help, too.
That's the very reason why I like the series. I love the tension.
This is a little bit off topic, but someone here might know.
Does anyone know if there are legitimate cheats for Maximum Velocity on GBA/3DS? I enjoy playing these games, but am not very good, and I want to unlock all of the hidden courses.
I have found a code listed on numerous sites that says to push B, L, B, A, R, B(2), A(2) at the title screen, but cannot get it to work. Either I am being incredibly thick, or the code is a dud. Does anyone have any ideas?
On topic, the SNES game is amazing. I'm still not very good, but the save states help with that. Glad to get the "proper" version, too, hopefully they continue that with all VC releases.
Does anyone know if there are legitimate cheats for Maximum Velocity on GBA/3DS? I enjoy playing these games, but am not very good, and I want to unlock all of the hidden courses.
I have found a code listed on numerous sites that says to push B, L, B, A, R, B(2), A(2) at the title screen, but cannot get it to work. Either I am being incredibly thick, or the code is a dud. Does anyone have any ideas?
On topic, the SNES game is amazing. I'm still not very good, but the save states help with that. Glad to get the "proper" version, too, hopefully they continue that with all VC releases.
Have you tried using the L and R buttons instead of d-pad left and right, or vice versa?