They just have to say it's a string bikini she wears underneath at all times and that's it. People won't know the difference!! XD
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Final Fantasy XV Episode Duscae 2.0 coming in May | Trailer at E3, more at Gamescom
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They just have to say it's a string bikini she wears underneath at all times and that's it. People won't know the difference!! XD
threelights
Member
They said the party's look won't change (you can change armor, but that won't be visible).
Crossing Eden
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Iconic as in a perfect example of stuff that should really stop being so commonplace in japanese video games. Her, Quiet, and that witch character from SO5.
The whole point is that they're young adults from a Tokyo-esque city that has night and death as its main themes. There's another city in the game that wears all white too. It's a thematic thing. They could add some colour, but I like how extreme it is with its themes.
They partnered with Roen, a Japanese fashion company for the designs. They won't change.
I'm not in the dudes head but when I read that, I interpreted it to be the attire is "normal" for the "fantasy of female mechanic" (those Google images demonstrate what that looks like when taken to its extreme) not "normal" for what a professional female mechanic would actually wear in real life. Not to say you have to like the design of course but it seems obvious to me they weren't trying to be accurate to real life or were referencing "real life" when they said normal. When the full transcript comes out I could be wrong though
theprodigy
Member
Japan confirmed scrubs? lol
and here I thought Americans were the prudes, but look at Europe leading the charge /s
and here I thought Americans were the prudes, but look at Europe leading the charge /s
Man, can I just say that I actually really love this approach they are having of actually listening to feedback, explaining design choices and revising the game to go with it? I know that not every game can have a developmental cycle like this for a lot of reasons, but I just really appreciate this. It's really interesting to see it like that, it feels so...honest.
Messofanego
Banned
"she's a mechanic, so the dress is normal (for google image searches pushing up the most clicked pics by horny boys)!"
Oh wait, what's this?
If you don't infantilise the females to "girls", and instead search for "women mechanics" with Safesearch turned on:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.91665533,d.d2s&dpr=1
Benzychenz
Member
Wow this is fantastic if true.
Releasing a demo in a clearly incomplete state to get feedback, then actually incorporating it and releasing an update to see what people think is amazing, and helps ensure the game is what it should be.
As a creator it can be hard to judge your work, so outside feedback is very useful.
And I actually don't mind locking it behind Type-0, a demo used to actually improve the game should be locked to the fanbase, you don't really need a bunch of feedback from 12 year old primarily CoD players that downloaded the demo off the store just 'cause.
Releasing a demo in a clearly incomplete state to get feedback, then actually incorporating it and releasing an update to see what people think is amazing, and helps ensure the game is what it should be.
As a creator it can be hard to judge your work, so outside feedback is very useful.
And I actually don't mind locking it behind Type-0, a demo used to actually improve the game should be locked to the fanbase, you don't really need a bunch of feedback from 12 year old primarily CoD players that downloaded the demo off the store just 'cause.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
The development for this game is so... weird.
BadMediaKarma
Banned
Why shouldn't be common cause you don't like it? It's Japan. They should have a censored version for the west then. The reduced her bust size compared to the pre rendered model. Her look is good. She'd be boring if she was in overalls or something else as basic. At the end of the day though it's fine with me
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The "fantasy based on reality thing" and the relatively normal (albeit boy bandy) look of the main cast, including Stella is why she sticks out and just seems like a pandering character design.I'm not in the dudes head but when I read that, I interpreted it to be the attire is "normal" for the "fantasy of female mechanic" (those Google images demonstrate what that looks like when taken to its extreme) not "normal" for what a professional female mechanic would actually wear in real life. Not to say you have to like the design of course but it seems obvious to me they weren't trying to be accurate to real life or were referencing "real life" when they said normal. When the full transcript comes out I could be wrong though
You should try early access games then.
Because we're at a time where more and more people are becoming vocal against this childish pandering and trying to be more progressive for female gamers and so that gaming can be taken more seriously. This is definitely the case in the west where we're trying to create stronger female characters who are also designed respectfully instead of being eye candy. It's more boring to resort to designing eye candy actually compared to interesting designs.
Something like this
is visually interesting and goes way more inline with the personality they described, especially the "not meant to be erotic comment" compared to this
Liquid_015
Gold Member
Great! It works!
donutzsick
Member
Woo putting words in Tabata's mouth to make the attitude towards Cidney's presentation seem worse than it really is! yay!
They should give some sort of update on whether or not they got approval from first party to patch episode duscae. A few more weeks for duscae 2.0 at this point. XV not being at e3 sucks, but it adds to the notion of gamescom > e3!
They should give some sort of update on whether or not they got approval from first party to patch episode duscae. A few more weeks for duscae 2.0 at this point. XV not being at e3 sucks, but it adds to the notion of gamescom > e3!
ShockingAlberto
Member
The laughable thing about the Cindy statement is the absurd need to lie.
Most people realize it's a lie and the people who don't weren't people who cared if they made excuses about her outfit, anyway. They're the target audience for whom she was designed.
Most people realize it's a lie and the people who don't weren't people who cared if they made excuses about her outfit, anyway. They're the target audience for whom she was designed.
Point is female mechanics being overly sexualized is all over American culture, either in Hollywood, TV shows, car magazines or car shows, which is what all of the internet pics show. It's probably more ingrained in America than Hooter's girls in skimpy shorts. I can understand him seeing it as normal in terms of culture if he has a rather limited exposure to living in the US. Or maybe they're all pervs at SE.
"she's a mechanic, so the dress is normal (for google image searches pushing up the most clicked pics by horny boys)!"
Oh wait, what's this?
If you don't infantilise the females to "girls", and instead search for "women mechanics" with Safesearch turned on:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.91665533,d.d2s&dpr=1
Damn you. Lol.
boredandlazy
Member
Because of Bloodborne I haven't played episode Duscae yet. Might wait for the patch now...
threelights
Member
Maybe FFXVI is a fantasy based on janitors =P
Anyway, Type-0 HD digital still comes with the demo, right? I think I'll buy if only to keep a version of the first demo.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Or
Considering she's in a every screenshot blast of FFXV
She's there so people who are attracted to her bought Type-0 HD
Orniletter
Banned
Music: 9.4
Japan knows whats up.
Top European complaint....le sigh.
Edit: CrossingEden's sketch is not bad though. Hmm
Japan knows whats up.
Top European complaint....le sigh.
Edit: CrossingEden's sketch is not bad though. Hmm
DirgeExtinction
Member
So they want to update the demo with whatever they've fixed/added in April. They doubt they'll update it more after that.
Also, the demo update isn't a sure thing yet since demos have apparently never been updated on consoles, so they're working with MS and Sony to see if that's possible.
*crosses fingers*
Also, the demo update isn't a sure thing yet since demos have apparently never been updated on consoles, so they're working with MS and Sony to see if that's possible.
*crosses fingers*
The dodge roll was in the game design but not in the demo.
The big change is animation cancelling. Related but distinct.
(And again from my personal understanding not everything is cancellable and they're sticking to their guns about the focus being making Noctis feel grounded compared to the typical action game moveset)
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
He basically had the reply that I would've had.
Play it, and suffer through animation prioritized combat.
Final ultimate weapon: Masamune plunger
Wait so it's not set in stone then? They shouldn't have mentioned before confirming. :/
That's what I felt too, since they felt the need to bring up how it would be in the full game to explain why things are the way they are in the demo.
Animation cancelling can break the game if not balanced. I guess they could go about this is to have a greater MP cost, or add a perk to a sword so you can animation cancel.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Well, I think it's good they're being this transparent.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
The Next ATR is aiming to be scheduled for the end of May considering FFXV won't have any big announcements for E3. It will be a continuation of the the evaluation of the survey results as this ATR was only a preliminary evaluation. Also as of April 10th, Tabata and his team had not actually seen any of the survey results and as such hadn't incorporated any feedback from them yet.
If it's just a patch then I assume you can update to 2.0 as long as you have the demo code to download the game.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
Considering their comments about making 1-handed swords feel faster, combined with the camera and lock-on tweaks, the game is going to feel immensely more responsive. It'll be great to get our hands on it.
Another important distinction is that regardless, as of April 10th there already were improvements especially to lock on. Quite a bit of the feedback were things that they also had noticed internally.
much like hitstun despite how much herp derp internet won chest beating there was
Is it really that surprising?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
How so?
Glad they're taking this open approach to developement and fan feedback, i'm sure this will lead to a better game (i hope), i just fear they'll become too dependant on this and change the game too much from how envisioned, and that all this tweaking will push the game further.
Also, really sad i'll have to wait 2 more months for a full blowout...
E3 is a much better stage for this game :/
Wow these are really good.
Also, really sad i'll have to wait 2 more months for a full blowout...
E3 is a much better stage for this game :/
Something like this
Wow these are really good.