Night_Trekker
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Won't even consider buying until it's out and I see the positive reviews calling it a successor to Blood Money.
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First details on the next Hitman game (IO, PC/next-gen, open levels, no checkpoints)
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I can see myself looking forward to this, definitely would consider pre-ordering it.
They tried some new things in Absolution that didn't really pan out as well as they likely would have hoped, but it was still an enjoyable game in my opinion. Glad to see that they've acknowledged where mistakes were made and that they are trying to rectify them in the sequel.
They tried some new things in Absolution that didn't really pan out as well as they likely would have hoped, but it was still an enjoyable game in my opinion. Glad to see that they've acknowledged where mistakes were made and that they are trying to rectify them in the sequel.
TheSinkingKnight
Member
They never said that they cancelled this, it was just the Eidos Hitman game. There were two in development.and they said nothing about this one until everyone started thinking the entire series was canned.
xenogenesis
Member
I like what I'm hearing so far.
brickarts295
Member
After Hayter and Ironside, anything is possible.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Sounds like Silent Assassin in which you were a humorless, cold version of James Bond
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
That is EXACTLY what I (and I assume many others) wanted. Well played, IO. Well played.
+ next-gen only game. will keep open mind.
This. Fooled me once... They really need to convince me that they did it right this time around.
keltickennedy
Member
I'm a fan of all the games and also really liked Absolution. It awesome to hear with next gen they are going back to open levels. I'm sure instinct mode will still be in it, which I didn't mind as long as there is the ability to turn it off and get rewarded when doing so. Also as other people have said, they need to tweak the disguise system too.
The Assassin's Creed games should follow similar ideas. Show the player the targets that need to be killed, let the player figure out and plan how they want to get the deed done.
The Assassin's Creed games should follow similar ideas. Show the player the targets that need to be killed, let the player figure out and plan how they want to get the deed done.
LeadenStride
Member
I also think that instinct can stay, but they must not design the game around it and rather keep it for easier difficulties. I mean, they didn't design the old games in a way that you had to use the map either. It was just helpful.
Lord of Castamere
Member
So this is the glory of Gen 8 large levels from gen 6 with the detail from gen 7.
It every game becomes this I might cry.
I hope they pulled resources from the in-development game. I really would like to see this in 2015
It every game becomes this I might cry.
I hope they pulled resources from the in-development game. I really would like to see this in 2015
BadAss2961
Member
If they structure it like the old Hitman games, i'm sold.
speculawyer
Member
Wow. I thought this was dead IP at this point.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Rather have my map back, I think it would tie in more with the professional assassin fantasy.
LeadenStride
Member
I'd rather have it back as well, but I could live with instinct as well, but only if it doesn't dictate game designing anymore.
Actually, it would even make sense to have at least some kind of map back since the game is concentrating more on prepared hits again rather than being on the run all alone.
Sons Of Anarchy
Banned
Great news hopefully it's more like blood money than resolution, Even though contracts was an amazing idea.
Interfectum
Member
All they have to say now is the map is back and they are trashing Absolution's disguise system and I'll be one happy gamer.
As much as I loved Freedom Fighters I imagine if the new team made a sequel it would be your run of the mill 3rd person shooter. And I think there was a disguise system in the original. So to be "realistic" every soldier in the Russian army will know each other from 10 feet away until you pick your nose.
Please let this game live up to its potential.
I got badly burned by Absolution though - bought it at launch, but still can't bring myself to finish it, and that's as someone who's completed some Blood Money missions over 10 times. So I'll be treating this new game with a truckload of scepticism.
I got badly burned by Absolution though - bought it at launch, but still can't bring myself to finish it, and that's as someone who's completed some Blood Money missions over 10 times. So I'll be treating this new game with a truckload of scepticism.
Thank god IO seem to be listening, I hope it lives up to what they're promising.
Derrick is probably fairly wary, but I'm sure he's also probably as intrigued as I am. Drawing on inspiration from Blood Money and non-linear levels in good news. I hope they think of scrapping Instinct and fixing the disguise system too.
Derrick is probably fairly wary, but I'm sure he's also probably as intrigued as I am. Drawing on inspiration from Blood Money and non-linear levels in good news. I hope they think of scrapping Instinct and fixing the disguise system too.
unknownhero
Member
I'm cautiously optimistic about this. looking forward to how it shapes up.
Miles Quaritch
Member
After all the lies with Absolution, I refuse to believe anything they say about that next game. I'll even go so far as to say that the reveal and any footage leading to release shouldn't be trusted either after the blatant smoke and mirrors shit they pulled with the Chinatown level...
It was as bad as what Gearbox did with the early Colonial Marines demo.
It was as bad as what Gearbox did with the early Colonial Marines demo.
Gareth Bale
Member
"Weve adopted an open, non-linear level design approach to the game, ensuring the game will play out across huge, checkpoint-free, sandbox levels"
Ubisoft Toronto please take note
Ubisoft Toronto please take note
The Dutch Slayer
Member
That all sounds good.
Still want to be able to save anywhere I want tough I know that maybe not "true" hitman but that is the way I like to play the game.
Still want to be able to save anywhere I want tough I know that maybe not "true" hitman but that is the way I like to play the game.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
To be fair, at least with the Hitman series, they've only messed up once. Heaven knows I was VERY disappointed (which is probably well documented on this here board) but I think comparing it the A:CM debacle is a bit much; at least the game they released worked and was polished, it just wasn't the Hitman game we were expecting or wanted.
Yeah, I think IO deserve one more chance they can deliver the true sequel to Blood Money. They did bring back David Bateson as 47, he may not be a superstar VO but he is the Hitman, so that proves they do listen. It's not at Colonial Marines level, I agree.
And adding to my previous comments, I hope the points meter isn't in single-player, it doesn't add anything. Keep it in the next Contracts mode instead, that's where it belongs.
ComputerMKII
Banned
This.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Oh I agree that it was technically sound. My main issue is that they employed the same smoke and mirror tactics as Gearbox when demoing the game. They almost always showed the bigger levels (of which there were only a small handful) and went out of their way to make sure people thought that's what the majority of the game was like.
That still doesn't sit right with me and it's the reason why I'll never believe IO say. Don't get me wrong, they are saying mostly the right things and normally I'd be very excited, but they burnt that bridge with Absolution and there's really no way to repair it until I see/hear about their next game in its entirety...
Moff
Member
they did say though that absolution wont have only blood money but also smaller levels, the quotes are in this thread. they also showed the linear police escape mission long before release. its really not like they were hiding it.
they also showed the chinatown level to prove that this game will have ALSO the known sandbox levels. they always said it will be a mix of the two. I dont think they ever lied honestly, although I agree with you that the scale and the amount of the very few big sandbox levels was only known after release, so I get where you're coming from.
they haven lost their skills either. they just more or less openly chose another patch with absolution, and they had their reasons, blood money a huge financial bomb among others.
absolution was also much more successfull, so while I beleve them when they say there will be mostly blood money style levels, I still expect them to keep some kind of narrative between the levels. maybe even with still some linear levels, but in a much better ratio than absolution.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Actually no they showed the police mission over a year ahead of release at E3 2011.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWf3dPKYf1E
Not that I'm disagreeing with your point, we had ample knowledge that linear levels were in the game far in advance.
NoPiece
Member
The music has been integral in setting the mood of the Hitman games, so for sure bring back Jesper Kyd.
Yeah that added to my frustration with the game. After forcing myself up to the orphanage level my save file got wiped and that was when I decided to sell the horrible game.
Miles Quaritch
Member
You make some good points, but I have to disagree that they didn't lie. They lied about how instinct would work, they lied about how open ended the sandbox missions (as few as they were) would be, they lied about the removal of the map not having a detrimental effect on gameplay and most importantly, they lied about how the disguise system would (or in this case, wouldn't) work. Almost everything about the game was a half truth or phrased in overly PR guff to try and confuse people...
I can't forgive them for that. The fact that they clearly and wilfully went out of their way and lied to Hitman series veterans will never sit right with me.
Moff
Member
I dont know all the quote you're referring to, but some of these things are at least debatable. for instance I agree with them that the loss of the map didnt change the gameplay much, as I have said earlier in the thread.
sure, many of the statements are PR stuff, but I still wouldnt cal that lying. when they say they will have more contracts/blood money oriented levels and the biggest ones we have seen in the franchise, yet. I honestly believe them. I dont think they ever made clear statements like this, tha turned out to be lies.
imho when thinking about whether we'll get a game we actually like, it doesn't matter if it was direct lies, half-truths or just PR speak. The end result is I don't trust them when it comes to words; I'll only trust what gaffers and the knowledgeable press say about the finished product. (If I don't get caught up in the hype cycle, but after Absolution, I probably won't).
Motion Picture Soundtrack
Member
Absolution was garbage. I'm not sure I can believe the same people who came up with its atrocious level design and game mechanics could suddenly turn out a great game like Blood Money.
