Maybe it means nothing but in Italy many retailers started pre-orders for GT Sport and Horizon.
I think Sony gave greenlight for pre-orders, so we can still hope.
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Maybe it means nothing but in Italy many retailers started pre-orders for GT Sport and Horizon.
I think Sony gave greenlight for pre-orders, so we can still hope.
diffusionx
Gold Member
DIRT Rally is polished. Forza 6 is polished. Gran Turismo 5 was not polished.
psn
Member
The silence is killing me. It''s been way too long now.
TylerDurden4321
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endlessflood
Member
Have you played Project Cars?
soundscream
Member
I really hope you're not implying its a polished product. Its fun but polished......nope.
flipswitch
Member
E3 in two months. Something playable would be great but I'm not getting my hopes up on it.
potatohead
Member
I think he is implying it is not polished.
Because it isn't, not that there isn't fun to be had like you say.
PeterLegend
Member
Thank god forza is coming to pc, so sick of polyphony taking their sweet time to deliver an underwhelming product.
FootballFan
Member
Impossible
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Then release a shit ton of patches after taking a long as time. It's unbelievable.
StoneSarge89
Banned
I think the next GT will be the make or break for the series' future.
Not referring to sales necessarily here, but it will highlight how much PD can innovate because I believe the PS3 games were still pretty much left in the past.
Not referring to sales necessarily here, but it will highlight how much PD can innovate because I believe the PS3 games were still pretty much left in the past.
FootballFan
Member
In my estimation this is a case of where the game was definitely on track in regards of development but Sony wants to make VR as successful as possible. And the sure way to get people on board is to give early adopters critically acclaimed software titles to purchase at or around the launch window of PSVR. Gran Turismo can be that title for Sony, the title pushes adoption rates up quickly.
A demo or a Prologue title to bide over the hardcore fans would be great but who knows where this road leads. I just want Gran Turismo back on the PS console, it has been too long indeed. GT6 should have been remastered for the PS4 anyway but maybe they did not want to put their premier franchise on the brand new console and it not looking better than the competing racers on the PS4.
A demo or a Prologue title to bide over the hardcore fans would be great but who knows where this road leads. I just want Gran Turismo back on the PS console, it has been too long indeed. GT6 should have been remastered for the PS4 anyway but maybe they did not want to put their premier franchise on the brand new console and it not looking better than the competing racers on the PS4.
FootballFan
Member
Would you mind expanding on this? Just curious to hear you opinion, as I also have felt that GT5 and GT6 lacked in certain areas, but excelled in the more important bits(important to me).
Quite possible if they don't port anything from Ps2/3. I'd say 10 is the maximum you should expect.
FootballFan
Member
Some of the tracks in GT5 and GT6 looked quite good to be honest. I still expect more than 20 tracks at launch. Polyphony will not be denied
Some of the tracks in GT5 and GT6 looked quite good to be honest. I still expect more than 20 tracks at launch. Polyphony will not be denied
GTS is not GT7. It's more like a prologue.
That official facebook account already said it will have a reduced number of cars and tracks.
I wouldn't expect more than 100 cars and 10 tracks as well.
FootballFan
Member
I was not aware, I believed that they just wanted to re-brand it to SPORT. Disappointing if that turns out to be the case. ShamePain may indeed be correct.
StoneSarge89
Banned
I played both Forza and GT somewhat at the same time during last gen.
GT had an older look due to the elevator music, standard cars and PDs lack of will to address some of the most requested features like damage while focusing on others the community wasn't too thrilled about, like B-spec.
T10 is not a much better example, look at the Nissan Silvia case, but at least their products felt more modern.
I know Forza games can be smaller in content than GT ones, but it's still impressive that while PD released 5 and 6, Forza went from 2 to 6 and oversaw Horizon 1&2. Will probably get 3 out before GT Sport, but it's yet to be concerned.
Maybe M$ focuses on launching the product more than shipping something that appeal's to a certain individual within the studio's personal level of perfection.
Oh yeah...engine sounds in GT5 were also a blast from the past and multiplayer customization...let's not even get there.
LE: Liveries! It's not something crucial to the driving experience, but I know the community wanted those in GT too.
The whole Forza/PC/FFB wheel clusterfuck needs sorting out ASAP. I still can't believe it's even a 'thing'.
endlessflood
Member
I thought GT5 was brilliant, it looked absolutely amazing and I really enjoyed the driving model. The things I disliked were the audio (which was laughable), the alpha channel effects (tyre smoke looking so blocky), and the SP progression structure, which felt a lot less crafted (and far more of an afterthought) than previous iterations.
Fixed chase cam and no livery editor was just awful for a 2010 game. I don't think GT6 has them either. Even DC had a limited livery editor.
AND they released a patch which made all races have rolling starts.
But then things like the photo mode being fully fledged - bizarre priority.
StoneSarge89
Banned
Oh yeah! The fixed camera angle sucked! I forgot about that one. Why spend so much time with the premium car model if you won't let us see it during the race?
yep. It had its issues but it was brilliant.
It was probably for performance. We'd have lost some other mechanic/effect in return for it.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Something GT5 had (unsure if it made it to GT6) was stereoscopic 3D, When you activated that, put the car in cockpit mode and with weather the game was on another level.
DonMigs85
Member
Yeah can't remember if GT6 had it, but Sony had this phase from 2010 to 2012 where they forced 3D into most of their games.
I don't mind a long development cycle generally, the one thing you can be sure of with PD is that they will support the game for a long time with updates which helps when there is a long gap between releases. GT5 was being updated till after 6 came out and 6 is still getting updates now.
It is more of an issue now though with no GT on PS4, really looking forward to hearing more and hopefully seeing the game at least by E3.
It is more of an issue now though with no GT on PS4, really looking forward to hearing more and hopefully seeing the game at least by E3.
travisbickle
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Shambalakan
Member
GT5 had lots of new features compare to GT4. Dynamic weather, day/night cycle, Nascar, WRC (rally was in the past games, but I don't think it was licensed), Top Gear, Karting, Course Maker and other things like damage, cockpit and ...
It was one of the most complete racing games of all time, but sadly PD can't use potential in its games. for example they got Top Gear license, but there were only 3 races in that track and nothing else. WRC and Nascar too. or Yamauchi had amazing plans with Vision GT project, but we still don't have all of 20,30 cars after 2.5 years!
I really hope that they use all of potential in GTS this time...
It was one of the most complete racing games of all time, but sadly PD can't use potential in its games. for example they got Top Gear license, but there were only 3 races in that track and nothing else. WRC and Nascar too. or Yamauchi had amazing plans with Vision GT project, but we still don't have all of 20,30 cars after 2.5 years!
I really hope that they use all of potential in GTS this time...
I've no idea how Kaz ever earned this 'perfectionist' moniker. He's the world's worst perfectionist. I think people just lazily equate huge delays with "not releasing it until it's perfect", which we all know is so far from the truth it's a joke. Don't get me wrong, there's an awful lot I like about the GT series, but if Kaz is a perfectionist then he must lie awake at night feeling like a total failure.
Sony needs to take a firm look at restructuring PD - especially considering they have been so firm handed with their other studios SSM, Evolution etc. I think they need someone else at the top of the studio, with Kaz been some sort of consultant. At least he can focus on the competitive side of the games. Seems like he a lot of weight on his shoulders been CEO.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Just found out Forza has the McLaren MP4/4
Says it all about the clowns at Polyphony, GT with a dedicated Senna mode gets a poxy 1988 race suit, Forza gets the goods.
There's just no hope for GT Sport, Polyphony should have been downsized and GT handed over to Evolution Studios.
Says it all about the clowns at Polyphony, GT with a dedicated Senna mode gets a poxy 1988 race suit, Forza gets the goods.
There's just no hope for GT Sport, Polyphony should have been downsized and GT handed over to Evolution Studios.
Kaz is the Quentin Tarantino of Videogames. He needs someone to rein him in.
endlessflood
Member
Which studios make Sony the most money?
So I think GT6 was one of the better racing games last year weather or not it topped Forza 4 is up to one's opinion. But for me the weather and time of day changes made it a stronger proposition.
After saying all that I can't help but feel Sony has issues with controlling PD. PD has had this no communication and delays issue since time immemorial. Just seems like poor management.
After saying all that I can't help but feel Sony has issues with controlling PD. PD has had this no communication and delays issue since time immemorial. Just seems like poor management.
Probably Naughty Dog at this point in terms of software sales and pushing hardware.
Saying that GT6 has sold 5 million copies. But I still think UC3+TLoU+TLoU:R+UCC have accrued more revenue and pushed more hardware.
I know it does not fit your narrative, but GT is likely historically the biggest Sony's first party contributor worldwide.
So if you think they need to have bigger control over their best studio, then think again. Reason Evolution and others were closed is that they were unsuccessful.
And reason Polyphony can do what they want to do is that they are very successful. Very simple.
Revisionist history does not help - GT5 and GT6 had tons of features, more so than any other game in the genre and customers appreciated that and that made them success.
funkystudent
Member
I will very curious to see what happens to PD and their freedom if GTS doesn't do gangbusters.
PD have coasting on that ps2 goodwill for too long. Another GT5 sized mesd and the hammer needs to drop.
PD have coasting on that ps2 goodwill for too long. Another GT5 sized mesd and the hammer needs to drop.