Shining Sunshine
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Where's the Cloud?
Did they break open some headphones & take the speaker? lol that's a pretty big motherboard speaker I wounder what's the story behind this. maybe the Xbox is going to speak back or it's going to us it to talk to the Kinect.
Peter Molyneux designs the xbox one?The dGPU is clearly hidden on the reverse side so as not to reveal Microsoft's secrets. It shares that space with rainbows, dragons and unicorns. It is a place capable of great beauty and great darkness, of turning videogames not into pixels on a screen, but of making your television screen into a window. A window that you can peer through and see other worlds, better worlds for you to control and manipulate. The dGPU is not just a chip, a slice of silicon stuck to a plastic board. This an invention to make you become God, to experience God, to create worlds you can shape like a God. The talk of resolution, framerate, texture work, lighting... all nullified by dGPU, which forms not technical jargon, but realities before us.
dGPU. It's so perfect you might believe it doesn't exist.
thats not correct. ram is just in clamshell mode on ps4.The South Bridge.
PS4 is double sided so it spreads the chips on each side, the Bone isn't so it is more complex, but requires simpler cooling.
Green - SK Hynix H26M42003GMR 8 GB eMMC NAND Flash
what?The other downside of having a single sided motherboard is that it forces them to have an external PSU because there is not enough internal space left unless they make it mega sized.
thats not correct. ram is kust in clamshell mode on ps4.
both are clearly double sided.
thats not correct. ram is just in clamshell mode on ps4.
both are clearly double sided.
what?
lol not correct.
That sneaky dgpu is still hiding.
Don't forget the additional eSRAM Sony doesn't have to bother with. Shit is huge.PS4 is double sided so it spreads the chips on each side, the Bone isn't so it is more complex, but requires simpler cooling.
Did they break open some headphones & take the speaker? lol that's a pretty big motherboard speaker I wounder what's the story behind this. maybe the Xbox is going to speak back or it's going to us it to talk to the Kinect.
obviously because Sony wants the PS4 to support FM radio tuning...
That wireless chip! AC and bluetooth come on Microsoft update the drivers!
Turns the HHD into an SSHD.
Holy crap at the size of that speaker...what in the world is that for?
Also, it seems to be mounted just above the disc drive..huh
Looks like the same sort of beeper that is attached to the side of PC cases. I don't think that's for particularly complex sounds like speech, I'm guessing its pretty much limited to tonal beeps.
I wouldn't be surprised since clearly M$ does not want you to replace anythingHas anyone tried upgrading the HDD yet? Does the drive have special firmware again?
lol, those engineers! (btw, it's on the APU chip as well 1337SSS)
What's that 8GB of flash do? Cache 5 minutes video?
Also lol at not having a CMOS battery to save time settings. No time for you if you are offline again?
It is interesting that Bone went with more power phases even when PS4's GPU is beefier and more demanding. Also, it looks better designed having in mind that things like HDMI-in capability adds more complexity to the design. PS4's board looks rushed in comparison. It will be easy for Sony to make a slim version with smaller board looking at that much unused space.
WiFi module its more capable than PS4's with ac and 5ghz band support. But I wonder how it is possible it only have one antenna for 2x2 operation. Anyone with a xbone can tell wich links speeds is this thing capable of with the right AC router?
Also lol at not having a CMOS battery to save time settings. No time for you if you are offline again?
Sigh. Anybody who buys a 1st-generation PS4 better get ready to sell it off, when Sony releases a PS4 hardware revision. I guarantee you it'll have an updated wireless chip that has 802.11ac, Dual-band WiFi, WiFi Direct, Miracast, & NFC. Especially with the way Sony is pushing Remote Play, Second Screen, & Gaikai.
I'm gonna assume Sony went cheap on the PS4's Wireless chip because of having to spend extra money on GDDR5 RAM. It makes me wonder if I should even buy an extended warranty for my PS4, because I'm definitely gonna flip it as soon as Sony puts out hardware revision with an updated wireless chip.
I'm interested to see what the wireless chip is in the new PS Vita revision.
It might be an energy/power issue.
Turns the HHD into an SSHD.
Sigh. Anybody who buys a 1st-generation PS4 better get ready to sell it off, when Sony releases a PS4 hardware revision. I guarantee you it'll have an updated wireless chip that has 802.11ac, Dual-band WiFi, WiFi Direct, Miracast, & NFC. Especially with the way Sony is pushing Remote Play, Second Screen, & Gaikai.
Sigh. Anybody who buys a 1st-generation PS4 better get ready to sell it off, when Sony releases a PS4 hardware revision. I guarantee you it'll have an updated wireless chip that has 802.11ac, Dual-band WiFi, WiFi Direct, Miracast, & NFC. Especially with the way Sony is pushing Remote Play, Second Screen, & Gaikai.
I'm gonna assume Sony went cheap on the PS4's Wireless chip because of having to spend extra money on GDDR5 RAM. It makes me wonder if I should even buy an extended warranty for my PS4, because I'm definitely gonna flip it as soon as Sony puts out hardware revision with an updated wireless chip.
I'm interested to see what the wireless chip is in the new PS Vita revision.
It might be an energy/power issue.
Is it a speaker? Or a microphone? Those are basically the same thing depending on how you hook them up...
The NSA found a way!
That were my 2cents in an older thread too. Do we have confirmation on that?
The PS4 doesn't have it, right? Because I already ordered a Seagate 1TB SSHD for my PS4. Pretty clever of Microsoft, I have to say, if it's really that... especially if game-devs have control over what to put on the SS-part.
lol, if there is a mic in there somewhere, maybe they have that speaker to noise cancel the sound of the disk drive (and fan?), that'd be sweet!Holy crap at the size of that speaker...what in the world is that for?
Also, it seems to be mounted just above the disc drive..huh
Nah, that can't be it. The PS4 uses 256MB to cache it's 15 minutes of video
No point putting in ac or 5Ghz n for remote play when vita doesn't support it. Also I'd rather have the increased range of 2.4GHz for remoteplay - the bandwidth requirement isn't that large. Not the end of he world not to have 5GHz. If you are close enough to your router to get the benefit of it, you're close enough to plug in an Ethernet cable.
Comparison.
Xbone:
Just because they have a chip capable of x, y and z, doesn't mean they'll use all of those features. They did have plenty of space for a larger/additional antenna though
No point putting in ac or 5Ghz n for remote play when vita doesn't support it. Also I'd rather have the increased range of 2.4GHz for remoteplay - the bandwidth requirement isn't that large. Not the end of he world not to have 5GHz. If you are close enough to your router to get the benefit of it, you're close enough to plug in an Ethernet cable.
It could just be where they stored the OSes and apps. The OSes+Apps would load much faster from a flash than the HDD right? Low latency and relatively high read speed would make loading/switching between program almost seamless.
Flash > DDR3 is better than HDD > DDR3.
You realize how many consumers still don't have wireless n routers. The AC adoption rate is soooooo low.Sigh. Anybody who buys a 1st-generation PS4 better get ready to sell it off, when Sony releases a PS4 hardware revision. I guarantee you it'll have an updated wireless chip that has 802.11ac, Dual-band WiFi, WiFi Direct, Miracast, & NFC. Especially with the way Sony is pushing Remote Play, Second Screen, & Gaikai.
I'm gonna assume Sony went cheap on the PS4's Wireless chip because of having to spend extra money on GDDR5 RAM. It makes me wonder if I should even buy an extended warranty for my PS4, because I'm definitely gonna flip it as soon as Sony puts out hardware revision with an updated wireless chip.
I'm interested to see what the wireless chip is in the new PS Vita revision.
It might be an energy/power issue.
"47MB of storage"? They really counted every single register, didn't they lolThe Die size is already known
You realize how many consumers still don't have wireless n routers. The AC adoption rate is soooooo low.
Also I always wire my console as my router is on my tv stand breh.
I can't believe the power brick is as big as it is AND has a fan of it. That may be a first. I can't wait for inevitable moment when the fan dies and the power supply catches fire.
I can't believe the power brick is as big as it is AND has a fan of it. That may be a first. I can't wait for inevitable moment when the fan dies and the power supply catches fire.
you say that now, but when Sony adds FM Radio to Music Unlimited i will have the last laugh!Sigh. Anybody who buys a 1st-generation PS4 better get ready to sell it off, when Sony releases a PS4 hardware revision. I guarantee you it'll have an updated wireless chip that has 802.11ac, Dual-band WiFi, WiFi Direct, Miracast, & NFC. Especially with the way Sony is pushing Remote Play, Second Screen, & Gaikai.
I'm gonna assume Sony went cheap on the PS4's Wireless chip because of having to spend extra money on GDDR5 RAM. It makes me wonder if I should even buy an extended warranty for my PS4, because I'm definitely gonna flip it as soon as Sony puts out hardware revision with an updated wireless chip.
I'm interested to see what the wireless chip is in the new PS Vita revision.
It might be an energy/power issue.
Wait, wat?
The power brick has a fan? For serious?
You realize how many consumers still don't have wireless n routers. The AC adoption rate is soooooo low.
Also I always wire my console as my router is on my tv stand breh.