Yeah afaik Australia (and maybe Japan??) is the only country where the Fanatec wheels are available at retail (I bet they are a bitch to find too!).
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Yeah afaik Australia (and maybe Japan??) is the only country where the Fanatec wheels are available at retail (I bet they are a bitch to find too!).
seattle6418
Member
In Brazil i can´t find them even online. There are a few used ones selling for over 1000 dollars on our ebay, which is absurd. I could try to buy some bundle once i travel to the US, but wheels are a pain to bring in with your luggage. I´ve done it with the G25 and it was a pain to do it.
I saw the box for the T500RS at Fry´s when i visited Seattle and it´s a huuuuuge wheel. It´s very hard for me to upgrade, that´s why i´m expecting the whole Logitech situation to be solved.
I know i´m not the only one in this situation, in many places Logitech is still the way to go. It´s relatively cheap, good and comes with everything you need (Wheel, pedals, shifter). Many friends in the sim community here in Brazil are still buying brand new G27 wheels. It´s the top seller according to a local retailer. I thought they were not producing it anymore, but somehow it just keeps selling it.
I saw the box for the T500RS at Fry´s when i visited Seattle and it´s a huuuuuge wheel. It´s very hard for me to upgrade, that´s why i´m expecting the whole Logitech situation to be solved.
I know i´m not the only one in this situation, in many places Logitech is still the way to go. It´s relatively cheap, good and comes with everything you need (Wheel, pedals, shifter). Many friends in the sim community here in Brazil are still buying brand new G27 wheels. It´s the top seller according to a local retailer. I thought they were not producing it anymore, but somehow it just keeps selling it.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Retweet if you want:
@GAF_iOS_scores
"@slightlymadteam Not sure if you guys have fully realized how crucial G25/27 wheels PS4 support is for #projectcars to build a fanbase there"
@GAF_iOS_scores
"@slightlymadteam Not sure if you guys have fully realized how crucial G25/27 wheels PS4 support is for #projectcars to build a fanbase there"
Believe me... SMS already knows that people want Logitech support. They want it too but it's out of their hands.
If you want to bug somebody on twitter about it go to the Logitech Gaming Twitter account instead.
Seconded.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
I'm not "bugging" anyone. Of course SMS knows, it's a way to get more answers on the matter and It just serves to keep spreading awareness piggybacking the racer which is closest to release and now featured prominently on websites etc. so that it might make it into a feature article or two.
That's how marketing works, you always try to firestart a domino effect.
Again, the intent is anything but harassment or wishing PCars anything but success.
If you want to push the Logitech's peripherals lack of support problem on front stage then that's at the moment the only way possible.
Logitech doesn't care about it, they've stated it jn more than an occasion, since they don't have a vested interest in it.
Devs and Sony needs to be proactive in order to get the community behind them, it's what the Skullgirls guys did and now MKX, SFV and probably others are reaping the benefits of that proactive attitude.
If you care about your Logitech wheels maybe it's not a bad idea to write your own tweet or retweet that one, if you don't agree with it or are ok with the current situation then just stand still.
With the Immersion's patent on the expire date there's nothing but willingness and resources to prevent devs to write a compatible 3rd party driver to apply on game to game basis and especially Sony to allow those peripherals to work in legacy mode.
Took one for the team and got the M4 converter. Here's a video of the initial tests I did today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Opfg6vqIR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Opfg6vqIR8
Nice video. Not surprised that you only get rumble out of that thing.
Have you checked the ingame settings for the deadzone? You might be able to fix it a bit.
Wow, that was brutal...I'm mainly looking for something to make my T500 function on the Xbone for Forza...
- I'm willing to deal with the lack of force feedback and just getting "rumble" instead..
- I'm willing to deal with no functionality in menus, or having to use the controller for things as long as the wheel and pedals function right on the track...
But for that cost, and performance I'd rather just save up for a different wheel, or just bite the bullet and play with a controller
soundscream
Member
I really wonder if the windows 10 streaming would be the answer. Because it would be kind of crazy for them to force you to use a xb1 controller while playing on PC, but I could see it happening also. We shall see soon enough.
soundscream
Member
Why is it out of their hands?
Yeah, that one will be very intresting.
It was significant bit once we learned Fanatecs will not use emulation "PS3/G25/27" mode for PS4. It is now clear how Fanatecs will run in their own default PC mode, which is amazing news IMO
I simply can't wait to try PCARS on PS4, despite I will have to give more of my money to Namco for that and I am still bitter beyond imaginable.
Dzidza1978
Member
Because Logitech needs to come to an agreement with Sony.
soundscream
Member
If you go off what fanatec just said its more on Logitech making the drivers since there is no default wheel support on the playstation 4 OS. Which brings us back to the fact that Logitech isn't making wheels right now, so from a financial point of view it makes no sense for them to put in the work to get their products running on PS4 since there is no future revenue stream. That might change because there was a rumor of a new wheel from them last year, but it was nothing concrete.
Developers can't write FFB supported drivers on either platform (which is why some games can support wheels or arcade sticks, but FFB can't be supported), it requires the platform holders to make the support.
soundscream
Member
Its funny that Thomas warned about a situation like this happening where wheel support varies from game to game. Imagine the cluster fuck if GT 7 doesn't want to support the Fanatec drivers for some crazy reason. How likely is that to happen......probably 1% but even that small chance is nuts.
I wonder if Fanatec is going to make officially supported wheels now because like the t500 they won't work outside of the game. It would be odd if there was only 1 fully supported wheel (t300) this generation.
I wonder if Fanatec is going to make officially supported wheels now because like the t500 they won't work outside of the game. It would be odd if there was only 1 fully supported wheel (t300) this generation.
I do not agree.
Logitech needs to deliver drivers. According to these tweets, they are keeping this option open and nothing is said about not supporting drivers for the PS4. They are even hinting and teasing in the tweets. You can read it anyway you want, I like to be positive.
Therefore I think drivers will be available in due time:
https://twitter.com/LogitechG/status/365489119171850241
https://twitter.com/LogitechG/status/345223540850688000
amstradcpc
Member
Those tweets aren´t from 2013?.
We should ask John "Cowboy" Bellomy (the Naughty Dog developer who made the PS3 sticks driver for PS4) to be even kinder and make us the logitech PS4 drivers...
soundscream
Member
Developers can't write drivers that support FFB thus making it impossible to officially support those devices without the platform holders and wheel manufacturers working it out first.
And people thought my solution was bad, lol Jesus.
To make it more clear, the drivers should already be available:
https://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Controllers/G27-amp-Driving-Force-GT-Firmware-Update-for-PS4/m-p/1302143/highlight/true#M19948
soundscream
Member
To make it more clear, the drivers should already be available:
https://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Controllers/G27-amp-Driving-Force-GT-Firmware-Update-for-PS4/m-p/1302143/highlight/true#M19948
I think you need to realize that they are not telling the truth.
1st they said you need a security chip, which Thrustmaster proved to be false.
Now they claim that they have drivers that work with the PS4, so fanatec went about creating new drivers for shits any giggles?
In the world of marketing there are only shades of truth, just the way you want it to tell.
It doen not really matter, it's about the bigger picture.
Fanatec also said it is up to Sony to allow USB devices to their PS4.
Logitech has drivers ready, I read this beofre somewhere, but am not able to find it.
The reasons given for not functioning anything else have gone to exist with Fanatec being allowed in the PS4 SMS circle of love.
They probably paid a lot of money, because of the big release on that.
Logitech is nog paying, so probably at release there is going to be a small notification that Logitech is being supported aswell.
Nothing stands in the way of support for Logitech.
Nothing that I can find anyway.
On the US site it says $600 for the V2 base and $400 for the 918 rim, same as it has always been. That sucks...
Ah... https://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/154/price-increase-in-europe
soundscream
Member
Same price they have always been.
Im sure you could find the older wheels cheaper online. The clubsport is the top of the line for them.
Edit: 20 - 30% increase is a pretty penny, but if cost is an issue the older wheels still work on ps4.
http://www.fanatec.com/eu-en/racing-wheels/porsche-911-gt3-rs-v2-wheel-eu.html
Hi guys, I'm currently looking for a driving wheel with force feedback. So my primary option would be a driving wheel compatible with PS4-PC-Xbox One. around 150 € or less.
If that's not possible, a wheel for PS4-PC would be enough, still at 150€ or less, any recommendations ? I admit it's quite difficult to understand which ones are compatible with which consoles. I was thinking about getting a Thrustmaster T100 as I read it was compatible with both PC-PS4 and quite cheap.
[Edit] Self answer : apart from Clubsport bases, I don't see any affordable wheel with both One/PS4 compatibility, I will settle for the Thrustmaster T100, which can be found for 70 euros. Plan is to play DriveClub (PS4) and Project Cars (PC).
If that's not possible, a wheel for PS4-PC would be enough, still at 150€ or less, any recommendations ? I admit it's quite difficult to understand which ones are compatible with which consoles. I was thinking about getting a Thrustmaster T100 as I read it was compatible with both PC-PS4 and quite cheap.
[Edit] Self answer : apart from Clubsport bases, I don't see any affordable wheel with both One/PS4 compatibility, I will settle for the Thrustmaster T100, which can be found for 70 euros. Plan is to play DriveClub (PS4) and Project Cars (PC).
T100 is a waste of money, imo. I would rather just play with the gamepad at that point. Atleast the X1 controller has haptic feedback, which is quite helpful. DS4 is ok i guess.
If you don't mind feeling like there is a toy built for an 8 year old in your hands, I'd say go for the T100. Otherwise, you might want to check out some of the older Fanatec wheels, they are PC, PS3/4, and some with 360 support also.
This aint too bad a deal right here. This one will work on Pcars for PS4 currently, and likely more future racing titles on PS4 also as they stated they are giving out the drivers to any devs that want them, poosibly Driveclub in the near future?
Good luck!
soundscream
Member
I think your best shot is the windows 10 streaming.
soundscream
Member
http://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/156/real-race-car-steering-wheel-rims-on-xbox-one
Fanatec XB1 adapter announced
$299 for the adapter
$399 for the adapter and a wheel rim
Not including the $599 for the v2 base
which together would take you to $1000........but you might need some pedals if you didn't have some old Fanatec pedals lying around.
they say cheaper options are coming, and I would hope so.
Fanatec XB1 adapter announced
$299 for the adapter
$399 for the adapter and a wheel rim
Not including the $599 for the v2 base
which together would take you to $1000........but you might need some pedals if you didn't have some old Fanatec pedals lying around.
they say cheaper options are coming, and I would hope so.
Thank you for the advice !
Unfortunately the Fanatec CSR is very hard to find here in Belgium, even online, for a decent price. Also, I enjoyed the official Xbox 360 wheel, so I guess the T100 could be worth a try as I found it on Amazon for little money in perfect state. It arrives tomorrow, so I will know if it's enough for me or not
I was hoping they would reveal their more price conscious Xbox One wheel before the release of Project Cars but it doesn't sound like it's even close.
ugh...i know...but im holding off on purchasing an Xbone until fall with FM6...just gonna hope somebody figures something out by then...
Thank you for the advice !
Unfortunately the Fanatec CSR is very hard to find here in Belgium, even online, for a decent price. Also, I enjoyed the official Xbox 360 wheel, so I guess the T100 could be worth a try as I found it on Amazon for little money in perfect state. It arrives tomorrow, so I will know if it's enough for me or not
see i disagree with him...any wheel is going to be an improvement over a controller...idc if its the T100 or the most expensive Fanatec...i always think about when GT5 first released...it was the first time i ever had a wheel for racing (DFGT)...the NASCAR license tests became an absolute BREEZE because of how much more precise you could be with your steering on the oval tracks...
i might be of a different mindset then the most hardcore sim racers out there...but if youre looking to grab a wheel on a tight budget...and you said you enjoyed the official 360 wheel...then i see no reason why the T100 wouldnt fit your needs...
i have a T500 and while i could certainly tell RIGHT AWAY it was an upgrade over my old DFGT i certainly dont feel it was a necessary thing...the only reason i have it was because of that super discount they went on like over a year ago...
its amazing how out of touch they seem with the average consumer...i mean how many of these things do they really hope to sell?...
dont they realize that with the terrible situation wheel owners are in right now that they could make a killing with more affordable options...especially something that is cross platform...ugh...
I was reading the blogpost by Thomas about the price increase for Europeans and it looks like it's very expensive for them to manufacture the wheels and my guess is that the only decent margin is to be found is in the very high end stuff. So it's not surprising where their priority lies.
soundscream
Member
They want to get the people who will spend more first. The products are more expensive to manufacture then the thrustmaster wheels because they are not made of mostly plastic like the TM wheels are. But I don't see the difference in results to justify the price jump. I mean if I was dropping $1,000+ I would just save up for a proper servo wheel.
Also the quality of their budget wheels seemed to drop with each iteration. PTWS had lovely leather, the gt2 lost the leather but it was still good. The CSR had a ton of plastic, and I remember reading about many people having issues with it.
Never had issues with my CSR but yeah it was very plasticky (still felt classier than the default TX rim tho).
The GT2 however dropped the rich dude leather but switched to Alcantara which is even better imo lol
soundscream
Member
I loved the leather!
I just remember the official Forza threads had a ton of people complaining about failures with the CSR.
And anything is more classy then the default TX rim. I am so salty that t300 owners got the good rim, while we got stuck with the faux 458 plastic toy.
Yeah so...about that... My friend was right to remind me a minute ago that the first CSR I got from Fanatec was dead after like 2 weeks lol... The second one I got has been working fine since though.
Yeah the PWTS leather felt very luxurious and I'm seriously thinking about buying the TM 28 leather rim for my TX.
RaceManIak
Neo Member
...And you bought a CSR because your TS always lost his calibration lol
Me I never had any problem with my Fanatec TS, my GT2 or my CSP (wich I still use with my TX).
But my first TX died after 1 month.
Yeah yeah... Well the funny thing about the PWTS is that it was always loosing its center...like everytime I would go to full lock it would loose its center.
But then I retried the wheel a couple of years later and it was working just fine.
A true Fanatec product lol
soundscream
Member
Yeah the TM leather looks great.
gutterboy44
Member
No console racer is worth that investment. I regret missing out on the Microcenter thursmasters mega sale more and more as the console racing wheel situation becomes more dire expensive. If you even want a semi competent FFB wheel, you need to shell out more than the price of your console. Fuck that.
thats the only reason i grabbed the T500 when i did
This damn wheel situation is still messed up. Here I am debating getting a XO and I already have a PS4 and PC. I have a G25 and want to upgrade it to a Thrustmaster and am not sure if I would get more use out of the TX or T300. I was leaning toward TX because of Forza since I would get more playtime out of it currently. Or I could just keep my G25 and not get an XO and just play on PC just fine. I have a rough life.
seattle6418
Member
I don't know what to do also.
A) build a better PC to play Pcars in it's superior version with the wheel i already have or
B) buy a better wheel so i can play Pcars on PS4 and utilize this better wheel on other racing games.
Why not both? Not enough money. I still need to buy a decent racing seat otherwise my elbows and shoulders will murder me.
This wouldn't be such an issue if i could use my G25 on PS4, but it appears that building a better PC to run Pcars seems like a better idea if i can build a decent PC here in Brazil for the cost of a Fanatec or T500RS wheel.
Decisions... decisions...
A) build a better PC to play Pcars in it's superior version with the wheel i already have or
B) buy a better wheel so i can play Pcars on PS4 and utilize this better wheel on other racing games.
Why not both? Not enough money. I still need to buy a decent racing seat otherwise my elbows and shoulders will murder me.
This wouldn't be such an issue if i could use my G25 on PS4, but it appears that building a better PC to run Pcars seems like a better idea if i can build a decent PC here in Brazil for the cost of a Fanatec or T500RS wheel.
Decisions... decisions...
