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NYC Neo-Nazi Gang Assault Twin Brothers Outside Bar

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Rayis

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If I had to support a violent group, it'd be antifa any day of the week, they have my blessing to fuck up all the fascists they want.
 
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and then sometimes the internet just makes me want to end it all

Who that hell is that or is it just some rando dumbass?
 
Lol :-(

It's never crossed my mind to own a gun until this election happened. Even then I know I shouldn't and would never. I've got a few road trips lined up this year though and might have a bat in the trunk in case i need it.

I would get the gun. Keep it in the trunk too along with the bat.

I'm all for people on the left educating themselves about firearms and even owning one if they feel comfortable with it, but I can't advise getting one if you live in NYC.
 

Cyrano

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Hammer and sickle are communists. It's not uncommon to see them in Antifa protests though as it's mostly made up of socialists.



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Antifa use red and black flags.
Is there any meaning to the flag colors being reversed? Saw that in some of the Google results. The three arrows in black or red seem like the most iconic but seem less used than the flags (also saw some articles where antifa seemed to be much more anarchic than anti-fascist).

I also thought the hammer and sickle were from communism and the post-Russian revolution. Thanks for clarity on that.
 

Condom

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So this Antifa stuff is popping up a lot of places. Is there a good resource for me to learn about that you guys recommend?

Check the facebook of your local Antifa group (search Antifa *city*). They're pretty much anywhere. All are anti-fascist and anti-capitalist but might differ in broader policy positions per group or member.
 

Dopus

Banned
Is there any meaning to the flag colors being reversed? Saw that in some of the Google results. The three arrows in black or red seem like the most iconic but seem less used than the flags (also saw some articles where antifa seemed to be much more anarchic than anti-fascist).

I also thought the hammer and sickle were from communism and the post-Russian revolution. Thanks for clarity on that.

An Anarchist may be more inclined to pick one with the black flag at the fore whereas the communist would be more inclined to pick the red.

Red = Communist

Black = Anarchist

But because Anarchists are socialists, it doesn't make a difference. They really both want the same thing, just one with the dissolution of the State right at the beginning.
 

HaloSon

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The problem is getting a permit in NYC is extremely difficult, pretty much impossible for the average citizen. The punishment for illegally carrying a firearm is very steep.

If you happen to get a permit, by all means use it if you want.

Yeah NYC is crazy with the laws. I would still advise to have a firearm legally of course.
 

FunkyMonk

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Bookmarked this thread so I can visit it when some dipshit in the future wants to talk about how morally wrong punching these guys is.

One that flew under the radar was Gavin McInnes, co-founder of Vice media, punched a protestor on Trumples inauguration day, Interesting how these incidents get more or less ignored but the other way round is splashed across the press. still I'm sure it's just liberal bias in action /s
 

nitewulf

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The victims in no way deserve being attacked, and this is not a stealth "they asked for it" post, but I don't understand why one would have such branding unless one is willing and prepared to fight for the ideals it represents. I guess they assumed they were in safe territory, but then what's the point of the sticker?

Anyway, eff nazis.

Well, to be fair you don't know what happened and whether they weren't fighting back. But there were only 2 of them version a gang, wielding at least one knife.
 
I know the US didn't want to get involved with WWII until Pearl Harbor but I didn't know people were actively protesting to stay away from the war. Interesting.

FWIW, the country was more in favor of intervention than it was against it, but there had been loud voices of opposition to intervention in the since prior to World War I. The US had been supporting the UK directly against Germany, and passed the Lend Lease Act in early 1941, which directly aided the Allied war effort.

The affect of the Lend Lease Act is sometimes understated by people who don't know much about it. I'm confident in saying that Germany could have very well won World War II without the US lending/selling war materials to the UK, France, and Soviet Union.
 

Zaru

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AllI know is that /r/antifa was taken over by alt-right types long ago.

I just went there earlier by thread-related coincidence and was like "wait, what? This doesn't sound right"

How does something get "taken over" so easily? They must have moved somewhere at least
 

Dopus

Banned
So this Antifa stuff is popping up a lot of places. Is there a good resource for me to learn about that you guys recommend?

AllI know is that /r/antifa was taken over by alt-right types long ago.

Reddit is generally a cesspool. Stay away from r/Anarchism too and any AnCaps.

r/AnarchismOnline r/Communism101 and r/Communism if you're interested.

r/Communism101 is particularly good, especially if you have any questions.
 

Cyrano

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But because Anarchists are socialists, it doesn't make a difference. They really both want the same thing, just one with the dissolution of the State right at the beginning.

I think there are probably a lot of anarchists who aren't socialists and are just militant, but having done some basic reading I suspect it's also probably the case that the group is inherently fragmented by disagreements about how much influence from the state is acceptable. Anarcho-syndicalism seems to only be realized at the level of small organizations whereas communism extends ownership far beyond the local. Co-ops are a more capitalistically viable alternative but they don't really solve the inherent issues that wage-based capitalism creates.
 

NandoGip

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The problem is getting a permit in NYC is extremely difficult, pretty much impossible for the average citizen. The punishment for illegally carrying a firearm is very steep.

If you happen to get a permit, by all means use it if you want.

I heard the trick is to open up a corporation and make large cash deposits/withdrawals over a few months. Then when time comes, you say that you want it because you're a business owner who carries large amounts of cash regularly. My friend successfully got his permit this way.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
How does something get "taken over" so easily? They must have moved somewhere at least

Diehard "but free speech!" leftists for whom ceding cultural ground to the opposition (regardless of who they are) is a core principle.

"If we keep moving away from a problem surely it will disappear of its own accord!"
 

i-Lo

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If you think others beneath thyself by virtue of skin colour then thou deserve no mercy. This non-violence and free speech malarkey is the reason why these uncouth filth have a voice. A voice they'd rob the rest of once these scum have attained a position of power.
 

wildfire

Banned
Only a dead nazi is a good nazi.

We won't see nazi apologists in this thread I assume?

They'll be cited as bad apples, and not to judge the peaceful ones. Like people who only talk a big game about a faction that threw people into ovens and gassing rooms have peace in their hearts :|


#PunchingNazisIsAcceptable
 

geomon

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Time for real life modern day Inglorious Bastards.

I'm not quite ready to murder and skin skinheads but I think we should have like an organization or something that could pay for the bail and legal fees of anyone who beats the shit out of a neo nazi. I'd donate every month.
 

SiteSeer

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listen here, jonny. neo-nazis may be twice as bold as they were in 2015, but your average fascist is as drunk and stupid as ever. the only thing that's different is me; i've become radicalized, and let's face it, crazy over the years. and once i'm allowed into your safehouse, i'll sell your roommate's organs to zoos for meat, and i'll go into your neighbor's houses at night and wreck up the place. muahahahaha!
 
Sad to hear about this, probably innocent guys just sporting a sticker. One of the brothers had to have a wound stitched up.

While it may be great to see a Nazi get punched, it was allegedly a Antifa person. These Nazi will be looking out for Antifa people for revenge and no doubt after these brothers got attacked badly Antifa be looking for revenge and suddenly you have mob rule and innocent people getting knifed and shot in the crossfire. If you want to take the law into your own hands then be prepared to fight.

Perhaps some amendments to the laws and constitution are needed to prosecute Nazis and hate speech if people of America are for supporting of violence as talking is not working.
 

aeolist

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Hammer and sickle are communists. It's not uncommon to see them in Antifa protests though as it's mostly made up of socialists.



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Antifa use red and black flags.

As far as Anarchism is concerned, these are the flags.

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I felt like redacting the Anarcho-Capitalism one though.

there's also the three arrow symbol

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Dopus

Banned
there's also the three arrow symbol

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This doesn't really get used because there are Marxist-Leninists and other Communists who are a part of local Antifa groups.

The origin of that symbol is this.

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In any case, most don't care if they see it, as it now strictly an anti-fascist symbol.
 
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