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Official (I guess) Wii U Demo Station impressions thread
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Smiles and Cries
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they really don't want these games played enough for some odd reason since all of these things showed up and Wii U Experience cities. What is so different about these demo stations?
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
Makes sense. It seems it would make more sense to have it there as an option to developers, though truthfully I haven't played many games (I think) that utilize them besides a few racing game demos.
On a side note I was wondering if Nintendo is ever going to start selling a battery pack for Wii Remotes. Considering the Wii U Pro Controller and GamePad are rechargeable with built-in batteries, I would hope that later on Wii U branded Wii Remotes would do the same. Making sure I have batteries is kind of annoying at this point.
Wrong on both counts. The screen is very bright, the colors are very snappy, and the response time was very good. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the PPI of the screen the same as the iPad Mini, which is right at 162ppi. There is nothing wrong with the screen.
yeah, but you must know in the iPad Mini the ppi is amazing and the screen awesome, in Nintendos case is it just cheap and bad to go with such a bad low res screen
not serious
I thought at Gamescom that Rayman looked good on the gamepad, no complaints about the screen quality. It is fine, no need for HD resolution on such a small screen imo (not that a HD resolution wouldn't look nicer, but it is not necessary)
Trolling on GAF, Never!!!
Exactly, people keep ignoring this, but apparently even Apple feels that the PPI being used is good enough for a screen in this size range right now.
Do you know what opinions are? Tons of people have commented on the fact that the display looks washed out and is not as sharp as it should be. It's made to be cheap, what do you expect.
Also on the digital>analog trigger discussion, I can only shake my head. Analog pressure sensitivity is used in many more things than just racing games, and seeing as driving a vehicle is pretty damn common in tons of games, I don't see how missing out on such a feature is in any way a "plus".
It wasn't explicitly stated, but it was inferred that it may have been a weight saving measure. Iwata was shooting down anything that added extra heft to the gamepad with limited potential for return. Racing sims are on of the few genres that would make use of analog triggers and they are in limited supply on all consoles, not just Nintendo. Most arcade racers play just fine with digital controls.
How many arcade racers have you played recently? What an asinine assertion.
Yes, Burnout games or Mario Kart would work fine with digital controls, but games like PGR, NFS Most Wanted, Forza Horizon all extensively use the analog triggers. In fact, almost any big game made in this generation uses it in some way that improves vehicle handling or character control.
Apophis2036
Banned
PGR and Forza ?, two MS exclusives lol...
walking fiend
Member
People still defend the digital controls? COME ON!
I am basically a Nintendo only gamer beside GoG, and still think they should have had included analog.
I am basically a Nintendo only gamer beside GoG, and still think they should have had included analog.
...and he proves my point. LOL!
Learn to read.
The assumption is that digital controls are fine for everything except racing simulators like Forza 4 and GT5. This is complete nonsense as analog controls benefit nearly all games, not even just racers.
I need some of that stuff you're smoking.
Well, GTA would be terrible, for a start.
Anyone crowing about the PPI in the iPad Mini needs to have their eyes checked. The hardware in the mini is almost all over two to three years old.
You couldn't handle it. It's called the truth.
_illmatic_
Member
Digital shoulders don't bother me. I use the analog sticks for racers, however I don't really play racers on Nintendo consoles.
Games like GTAIV, Halo, Red Dead Redemption, Battlefield 3, Saint's Row and nearly every sports game extensively use analog triggers. Basically anything with vehicles or precise character control.
I don't want developers to have to ham-fist the controls on the Wii-U. Why you are praising the lack of analog triggers is completely beyond me.
I might understand the fact that you don't care about any of these types or genres of games and just care about the Mario titles, but to be downplaying the problem like this based on ridiculous comments ("It only matters for simulation racers guys!") is laughable.
Yeah, I love analog triggers in FPS games, side scrollers, RPGs, puzzle games, adventure games etc. NO. Very few genres outside of racing sims have meaningful uses for analog triggers. Would they be nice to have, yes, but they are hardly a necessity .
You couldn't handle it. It's called the truth.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Digital shoulders last longer.
BishopLamont
Banned
Nintendo doesn't care about a hardcore controller.
Metalmurphy
Member
lol... why? My PS2 controllers still work fine.
walking fiend
Member
What?!!
Metalmurphy
Member
Why is this shocking? All buttons on PS2/PS3 are analogue, why would that make them last not as long? That makes no sense...
And I kept using my PS2 controllers on PC long after I stopped using the PS2 and they still work fine.
walking fiend
Member
I want your PS2 controller
opticalmace
Member
That's the problem... If they would include analog triggers it would open the door to those types of games. I don't see how it could work otherwise (and no, I don't think using a stick for throttle works well).
opticalmace
Member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DualShock_2#DualShock_2
It's true. I remember playing GT3, wouldn't have worked without pressure sensitive buttons.
And this is why Nintendo didn't bother with them. For almost every type of game they are superior. It's just wasted cents.
He didnt prove your point at all. He was making the point that games like PGR and Forza
would be impossible or difficult on a system without analog triggers.
But hey keep twisting words and missing points.
Should be bannable IMO.
Metalmurphy
Member
How are they superior if you can have them work as digital triggers? Analogue triggers work both ways, Digital do not.
Actually he did. I said aside from the few simulation racers out there, very few games make meaningful use of analog triggers. Not only are those 2 games MS exclusives, but Forza is a sim.
I think you meant to type cheaper. Which is the motivation.
How about all the other franchises I mentioned? Read a few posts up.
And no, Forza Horizon is not in any way a sim.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm sure it is the motivation and I'm disappointed by the absence, but I've had 4 PS3/360 controllers total break on me and the problem every time has been the analog triggers.
No. Just no.
He pointed out that analog triggers can be useful for nearly all genres
and you dismissed the point.
Keep twisting those words.
This is probably true. I'm sure it is a weak point. And if Nintendo is going to be generous with their warranty service, that would most definitely drive costs up even further. So it's lose-lose.
For those doubting the main point, however, it's classic Nintendo. They've often done these type of cost cutting moves. And even if the analog parts/more difficult assembly only drove up material/labor cost by 50 cents a unit, multiply that. At 50 million sales, that's a loss of 25 million dollars. At 100 million sales, it's a loss of 50 million in profits. And it's not like it's a cost that gets any cheaper. So that's a fixed cost they just lopped off.
I don't remeber mentioning Horizon.
Useful yes. Needed, no. I'm not twisting anything. I simply pointed out the limited usefulness outside of the racing sim genre. He doesn't have to agree with me. It doesn't make either of our points any less valid.
Colonel Nasty
Member
I thought I clicked on the wrong thread...
walking fiend
Member
look at this pic:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/DualShock_3_and_Sixaxis_controller.jpg
The shoulder buttons on PS2 controllers were as analog as were the face buttons; it's totally different from the analog shoulders on PS3/360
Azure Dream
Member
Okay, I know you're running on Defender Mode right now and are a little distracted, but at least please learn how to use the Multi-Quote button so you aren't double-posting twice on the same page.