WhiskerFrisker
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Detective Gaf to the rescue. He even insulted the people who actually knows what they're talking about and called them "arm chair analysts". Ridiculous.
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PES 2015 : 1080P 60 FPS on PS4 - 720P 60 FPS on X1
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is that Adam Bhatti not a Konami employee? if not that is my bad I presumed that was a official tweet
Chobel
Member
It doesn't look companies are the ones asking MS for help, everything indicates MS is the one offering help, and that happened so far in big releases (Destiny, Diablo 3), which makes me think MS is doing it only because they're afraid of bad PR.
He is the community manager. The game releases in a couple of weeks so only 4 weeks until its gold. I really don't know what MS could do there, because they haven't even started talking about the issue.
Might be a big-ass patch later on, or it woke them up to go look at Fox Engine in general because I'm sure they want Phantom Pain as good as possible on their console.
Great I will look forward to seeing this list, thanks for putting in the time for me
I'm not saying they should, although that's essentially what happened last generation. The PS3 was the hard to develop for, the more expensive, the smaller install base until basically the end, and by far the weaker third party sales. It had a higher theoretical top end, but the work to get a PS3 game to parity with 360 was substantial, and disproportionate when compared to the general sales split between SKUs.
Every developer/publisher has to decide for themselves where to invest their resources, if they'd prefer parity, it needs to be hugely steeped in MS' favor, if they want to allocate resources based on sales performance, not only is the PS4 a far more capable machine, it's also the more attractive sales platform, so would ultimate result in an even more superior version than just the performance split.
What spin?, I have never once said the PS4 wasn't more powerful, why is that so hard for people to understand?
He said something rather strange to Eurogamer on Twitter - 'we'll let Microsoft help with all communication going forward.'
Do MS get to own 3rd party publisher communications? What's that about?
Who cares why they're doing it as long as it results in a better experience for gamers on popular titles?
Which bullshit have I been called out on exactly?
Why are you desperately denying the obvious gap in raw power between the two consoles ? It was made crystal clear two years ago that the PS4 was just significantly more powerful and that would naturally translate into games, which it has.
If devs push consoles hard the Xbox One can't follow.
Maybe you need another round of inferior ports on Xbox One to be convinced, worry not you will be served. Unity, Far Cry 4, COD and more are coming.
Maybe Konami want them to help out with PR with this game. I'll tell you what thought they are really going to need a helping hand with MGS, which as is will do awful numbers on XB1
You called the difference in power a myth. Even when there are tons of developers who have stated that the ps4 is around 50% more powerful.
You have not given any evidence to back up your points.
Get yourself over to misterxmedia blog - they'll love you there - they really will. With your MrB name you'll be given a starring role and access to all sorts of facts which MS are keeping secret just to surprise Sony some years after the release of the consoles.
I never said the GPU was more powerful your post is irrelevant
Jimmyfenix
Member
This thread is flying off the shelves.
The spin that an objective benchmark is a joke among other things(Which was confirmed to be true by a dev here on Gaf) but keep on the good fight.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
It's quite amazing reading your posts because your username implies you are around 42 years old.
I haven't said the PS4 is not more powerful
Just wait for the Xbox One.Five with full BC and play at PS4 visual fidelity in the options 
Have any big wigs at Xbox left other than Mattrick. Surprised more lead hardware design heads haven't rolled. Can only imagine Mattrick had so much say, nobody could change course so not their fault.
Have any big wigs at Xbox left other than Mattrick. Surprised more lead hardware design heads haven't rolled. Can only imagine Mattrick had so much say, nobody could change course so not their fault.
Black Mantis
Member
No, what would give you that idea? The next Crackdown is being built specifically to make use of the cloud.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/06/the-new-crackdown-will-use-the-cloud-a-lot/
Dude, what in the unholy fuck are you talking about? You keep saying the PS4 is only "slightly" more powerful, and that you have to listen to devs.
I keep showing you developers that are saying that the PS4 is 50% more powerful, that huge aspects of its tech are 40% or 30% more powerful. You're somehow not convinced.
There are the actual specs which show you:
Still, you call it a myth.
There are endless games which show the differences. You can see them all here. In many cases, due to the difference in resolution and framerate alone, you can see the massive gap. I don't think you realize how much power difference is needed to render a game at, say, 720p or 800p or 900p vs. 1080p. or 30fps vs. 60fps.
Still, a fucking myth to you.
IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE WAY, the PS4 proves it is demonstrably significantly more powerful. Developers say it, the specs prove it, the games show it.
What the fuck else are you waiting for? GOD to say it?
I have also read ton's of dev's who say they are close in power - you just want to believe the ones that suit you
BuggeryBugz
Member
Noticeably better?
I'll give you marginally better but that still doesn't make up for the fact that it's 720p compared to 1080p. In the end, the better gameplay of the two will determine which one I buy, and I'm not sure which one that is yet.
I think you will find I would get the opposite reaction
sechsterangriff
Member
No, you're just saying it's not THAT much more powerful as everyone else is saying.
Name some names. Give some quotes. Otherwise you're just making it up.
Well that's something else you have got wrong then isn't it
It sure didnt bother them with the GZ demo.
I still don't know if Microsoft really wastes so much resources for a game that sells its majority on the other system. Destiny or Diablo are western games and have a huge reception, so the effort was at least justified.
Jimmyfenix
Member
HOLY SHIT
Black Mantis
Member
PES plays better imo (bought FIFA yesterday), but I'm not quite sure I want to spend money on it, when taking the last gen presentation and the 720p resolution into account. If they've made significant changes to Master League mode and the online isn't messed up as usual, I might bite.
The_Reckoning
Member
I'm so glad i stuck around. I was expecting to witness a ban but this is getting much better.
Nothing to do with me
Ha - I see you are very special friends with him already
Owned in such an embarassing way.... LMFAO
Thankfully, GAF mods have a great sense of humor.
Night Angel
Member
BuggeryBugz
Member
Yeah, I'm liking the PES demo quite a lot actually.
In terms of raw hardware power, definitely yes. No doubt.
In terms of XDK optimization / tools, definitely no.
Oh, okay then, calm down guys, it's a different mrb1972, it's all a coincidence and Carmack is right, the consoles are the same, call off the hounds.
Just a coincidence