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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!

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Balphon

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Found a relevant Trump tweet from 2012

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I think it's well established that 2012 Trump would have a lot to say about 2016 Trump.

still too high

Take the MoE of individual polls into account and he could be at -1% with black voters.
 

User1608

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The good thing is, I don't think he has to call her a bitch to get the point across. I mentioned this in the other thread. He has no choice but to attack, attack, attack. She won't respond in kind, and the optics (sorry!) will be really, really bad for him. (At least among white women which....you know, we're doing good with them so far!) I assume he'll try and bring every question back to the emails and/or Ben Ghazi. All she has to do is constantly drag him back on topic "Donald. That is not what you were asked. You were asked about your plan for XYZ." The emperor has no clothes, and he cannot survive an actual policy debate.
Yeah, behind all the bluster, Trump is a very shallow man. He's not going to handle this well for sure.
I would be incredibly shocked. I don't know where this expectation that he's going to call her a bitch or cunt if he gets flustered enough comes from. He's a nasty, mean little shit, but he practically works only with G-rated insults (at least in what he calls people directly).
For me, it's because he's such an ugly individual inside I'm almost expecting him to blow his top as the pressure builds in him with the bad news cycles and polls showing him vastly behind.
 
Why doesn't any reporter actually ask Donald to explain the voting process?

He obviously doesn't know it at all. He will flub it and it will be another 4 day story.
 
Foley, a Republican who represented southern Florida, was forced to resign his seat in September 2006 in the wake of allegations that he sent sent suggestive emails and instant messages to congressional pages. The former congressman shared Trump's camera shot, with a smile, for the entirety of the hour-long rally.

What an incredibly whitewashed way of saying he sent sexual messages to underaged boys. Incredible.
 

pigeon

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Why doesn't any reporter actually ask Donald to explain the voting process?

He obviously doesn't know it at all. He will flub it and it will be another 4 day story.

This is true for literally anything though. Ask Donald to explain voting. Ask Donald to explain cooking. Ask Donald to explain television. Ask Donald to explain the water cycle.
 

kirblar

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I'm not even sure what the GOP's definition of "fiscal conservatism" is. It's essentially an empty term that just sounds great if you don't particularly think about it for too long.

When fiscal conservatives argue for spending money in cases where it would be the fiscally responsible thing to do, maybe I'll take fiscal conservatism seriously.

When fiscal conservatives can talk about the United States running a deficit in an honest and economically-literate way, maybe I'll take fiscal conservatism seriously.
When they did the budget math back in the primaries, the most fiscally conservative candidate in the race was...

...Hillary Clinton.
 
This is true for literally anything though. Ask Donald to explain voting. Ask Donald to explain cooking. Ask Donald to explain television. Ask Donald to explain the water cycle.

I agree but the other aren't pertinent to the election.

My point here was to ask it as a follow up to voter id claims. It would trip him up.


Anyway Ronald Reagan's daughter went after trump.

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These fetal burial laws are the most disturbing idea the pro-life movement has ever thought up. When Ted Cruz proposes forcing a woman who gets a miscarriage to have a $2000 funeral for her fetus, that's not going to go well with the general public.
 
Ask Donald to explain the water cycle.
He did say he would solve California's water crisis. Lol

Regarding minority group republicans: I personally don't want them in the democratic party. I'm not gay but support gay rights. I'm not poor but support UBI and other social safety nets. I'm not black, but support efforts to end police brutality and fight structural racism. I'm definitely not in the ban assault weapons camp, but support dem affords regardless. We don't need selfish people who will bail when they get what they want. We need people who realize that we're in this together. People who will fight for one another because it's the right thing to do.
 
I agree but the other aren't pertinent to the election.

My point here was to ask it as a follow up to voter id claims. It would trip him up.


Anyway Ronald Reagan's daughter went after trump.

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The inevitable Trump supporter response: "Booo! Fuck you lady! Who the hell do you think you are? Trump didn't even say what you think he said, so save your sob story for someone else! BOOO!"
 

ampere

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These fetal burial laws are the most disturbing idea the pro-life movement has ever thought up. When Ted Cruz proposes forcing a woman who gets a miscarriage to have a $2000 funeral for her fetus, that's not going to go well with the general public.

Women's health is just one of those things that old men shouldn't be able to make restricting laws about. I don't think any of those idiots fathom how devastating a miscarriage can be, even all the other issues aside
 
Jeremy Corbyn on the UK's third biggest union voting to endorse his opponent in Labour.

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Unions just too right-wing to embrace the glorious revolution.

(They voted against him because he wants to eliminate their jobs by dismantling the U.K.'s arsenal which is fine and justifiable. It's just a joke how Corbyn complains.)
 

CCS

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Jeremy Corbyn is everything that Bernie Sanders was caricatured to be (by this thread, specifically).

The difference being, we're stuck with him. The moderates will have to split off and form our own party at this point because there's no way to kick him out.
 

kirblar

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Jeremy Corbyn is everything that Bernie Sanders was caricatured to be (by this thread, specifically).
Jeremy Corbyn is what happens when someone like Sanders gets put into a leadership position. Theyre two peas in a pod.

There was no caricature, Sanders just has more realpolitik in him, and the Dem electorate wisely stayed away from the path thats previously led to doom for them.
 
I don't know if this has been posted, but there is a new Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Summer Election Special on Hulu right now, with his coverage of both conventions. I'm about 20 minutes in and it's great as usual.
 
So the thing I am worried about most is the now 100 people wide Democratic group and officials hack by Russia.

Private emails jacket, god knows what will come out of them.
 
jfc

If you think embarrassing emails from the DNC are going to cost Clinton the election then I don't know what to say to you other than OMG OPTICS WTF
 
I just want that sweet PPP Texas poll. Me thinks Texas is the true battleground state (margin will certainly be under the average PA polls). Would love to see the media narrative.

"He needs to fight in PA"

"But Texas is closer"

"Bah he can win PA but she can't win TX. No way"
 
Quinnipiac Senate poll

The U.S. Senate matchups show:

Florida - Republican incumbent Sen. Marco Rubio with 48 percent and U.S. Rep. Patrick Murphy, the Democrat, at 45 percent, too close to call. Rubio tops another Democrat, U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson, 49 - 43 percent;

Ohio - Portman leads Strickland 49 - 40 percent;

Pennsylvania - Democratic challenger Katie McGinty at 47 percent, with Republican incumbent Sen. Pat Toomey at 44 percent, too close to call.

http://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/q...ing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2372
 

AniHawk

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what if at the debate, the guy who's been wearing the leather donald trump mask these last three weeks turns out to be john kasich.
 
There was no caricature, Sanders just has more realpolitik in him, and the Dem electorate wisely stayed away from the path thats previously led to doom for them.

that's exactly what i mean, though

the primary electorate's decision-making aside, sanders is somewhat less of a cantankerous shithead ideologue because occasionally he understands when you need to fold 'em

(enough that i don't outright dislike him like i do corbyn)

what if at the debate, the guy who's been wearing the leather donald trump mask these last three weeks turns out to be john kasich.

meanwhile, the real donald trump is tied up in the lowest chamber of the great pyramid of giza!!! what calamity
 

Y2Kev

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that's exactly what i mean, though

the primary electorate's decision-making aside, sanders is somewhat less of a cantankerous shithead ideologue because occasionally he understands when you need to fold 'em

(enough that i don't outright dislike him like i do corbyn)



meanwhile, the real donald trump is tied up in the lowest chamber of the great pyramid of giza!!! what calamity

Why is trump at a grain storage facility?
 
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SCOOP: pressuring Trump, HRC this week will release 2015 taxes (effective tax rate around 35%, charitable around 10%) +10 yrs of Kaine's

I'm sure he'll release them...
 
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Corbyn's problem is not really innately his leftiness. Owen Smith is basically campaigning almost as far to the left as Corbyn at this point, and definitely further left than Sanders went, quite easily (e.g. Smith is committed to nationalizing the railways as one random example).

It's more: Corbyn has a closet so full of skeletons that he could build his own cemetery, he has absolutely no political instinct in the sense of knowing how to sell or communicate ideas, he has no leadership instinct in terms of managing to negotiate or compromise with opposing factions, and he'd rather just break the party than do anything about these things. Sanders is not only less leftward than Corbyn, he lacks almost all of those problems. Like, Sanders is actually rather good at negotiation and compromise - he got more concessions from the Democratic platform and eventual nominee than any loser I can recall in recent history - and he's also rather good at selling ideas - I still think much of Sanders' primary campaign rhetoric frames this election. There's been a noticeable uptick in discussion in liberal circles about the state of the poor and the more negative effects of globalization compared to even a year ago.

Sanders would have beaten Trump in a GE, relatively easily, just as Clinton will. Corbyn could never win a general election. There's not really an analog for Corbyn in American politics because there are no Corbyns in American politics; he belongs to a very specific British political climate that for various reasons (red scare, relative weakness of the organized Labour movement, Democrats being liberal and not socialist) never came to pass in America.
 

The boyz love this. They're going nuts giving high fives and cupping around their mouths with their hands for their repeated "oh snaps".

it's a burn when you realize "store some grain" is a clever euphemism for
hiding his tax returns where NO ONE will think to look for them!!!

One boyz shouts "roasted!" and all the other boyz join in a celebratory "OOOOHHHH!!" They maintain their voices and mesh into a single combined note. The earth begins to vibrate, like a tuning fork. A bird falls out of the sky, dead. The boyz eyes are white. The boyz love a good burn.
 
also i'm pretty sure anyone on this side of the pond with corbyn's sheer number of skeletons would be selling cars by now

(especially any of his comments that have to do with israel)
 
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also i'm pretty sure anyone on this side of the pond with corbyn's sheer number of skeletons would be selling cars by now

(especially any of his comments that have to do with israel)

I think the Israel thing is not quite so poorly selling on this side of the Atlantic - firstly because in the UK most people literally give no fucks either way, and secondly because the give-a-fuck contingent is actually pretty equally split between people who want softer or harder approaches to Israel. What's more damaging from a UK perspective is the IRA stuff. That's still a fresh memory for a number of people. My girlfriend's dad was nearly killed in a church bombing in Bristol when he was younger. He's Labour through and through, but that makes it difficult.

But even that's pretty small stakes in the end. The ultimate problem is his total inability to manage the party. It's the managerial incompetence that's kicked things off. Thangam Debbonaire's indictment pretty much summed it up.
 
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