As far as I know, this is the first, or one of the first items to behave this way. Plenty of other stuff has been pulled from the store, but is still downloadable for those who have the licence on their account.
It's surprising to me, at least.
Seriously, fuck Konami. PT was great, even if I haven't been brave enough to go around more than a few times!
What the heck are people talking about
Exactly. Even more so when we are talking about a masterpiece like PT.Not only is it a pretty great work of interactive art, it was also a one-of-a-kind event in the history of video games.
It's important to be able to preserve stuff like this.
I had this in my download queue for like a week, and wondered why it wouldn't download when I turned on my PS4 yesterday. Konami what is your deal these days? MGSV and then I'm done with you guys.
Precisely. They might be able to add an expiration to it but they won't waste money patching the game to kill it.That would be so evil, but no way they'd do this. Getting a patch through Sony's QA would cost them a whole bunch of money, right?
It is fucked up since rise of digital distribution, online DRM and shit. That's why i always, if possible, buy games in physical form on consoles.
We call it a demo because that's what it is.
Well technically its a Playable Trailer... its in the name.
It's a playable teaser, actually...
It was not a demo. Demo is supposed to demonstrate a complete game. This was on the other hand a standalone mini-game that for all we know had nothing in common with how actual Silent Hills would play, but it was indeed a teaser ad for it.We call it a demo because that's what it is.
I swear, if that's legit...Dunno if this is a joke or not, but I hope not. At this point I want to see Konami get as much shit as humanly possible. My fingers are crossed.
P.T. is a work of art, just like anything else, that several people worked on to bring a vision to life. So many people enjoyed it. It may be technically short, but it's stuffed with a lot of detail and seemingly random variables, which added to the fear factor; it tapped into the fear of the unknown. The rights may belong to Konami, but hey, what if Disney decided that nobody's allowed to ever watch Bambi again because the CEO is mad at the director or some of the animators?
Whether they have the rights or despite how much they hate Kojima for whatever fucking reason, P.T. is a collaborative effort that was given to us. If they're truly taking away the fun and experience of an artistic work because they're upset at Kojima, they're a bunch of goddamned children that simply don't value art, or as the guy I quoted stated, the preservation of culture.
This may have been a short demo and I'll live, but if they're capable of this, what else are they capable of? Or other companies? I know people have been made fun of for cursing the digital system over this one thing, but it's not just this one thing. Konami can't come to my house and take my copy of Silent Hill 3 from me, but if Silent Hill 3 were a digital only game with any semblance of DRM and this happened, I mean, imagine that.
I'm just going to rent Metal Gear Solid 5 and not give Konami my $60 for this BS!
I'm not trolling, but P.T is one of best Next-Gen games available and this is really making me mad
That would be so evil, but no way they'd do this. Getting a patch through Sony's QA would cost them a whole bunch of money, right?
The rights may belong to Konami, but hey, what if Disney decided that nobody's allowed to ever watch Bambi again because the CEO is mad at the director or some of the animators?
Well, the copyright owner has all the right to allow or prohibit the distribution of their creation. What they can't to is take away copies that people have bought: JK Rowling can stop the presses, but can't go to your house and take your copies of Harry Potter.
It's similar with digital distribution. Regardless of what publishers say about "licenses granted", they can't stop people who bought it to download it. Furthermore the content provider has an obligation to provide content. It's why while you can't buy Outrun 2006 on Steam any more, you can still download it if you bought it back in the days.
This work may be in sort of a grey area as it was "free". But one could argue that there is no need for an exchange of money to acquire something: a contract had to be made in order for the customer to access the work, a contract which is now breached by the content provider.
No one will probably bother because it was "free". But had it been paid for, that would have been a very lucrative lawsuit.
It is a piece of art, and a damn good one, but it's also worth remembering that it's also a piece of promotion, given to us for free, solely to get us to spend money at a later date. And soon it will contradict advertising laws.
If they just take out the ending with the 'Silent Hills coming soon', 'Hideo Kojima', 'Guillermo del Toro', 'Norman Reedus' stuff, then they could probably legally leave it up, or print it on a Silent Hill fan disc or something (and I'm not even convinced that we won't see a new SH game from Konami yet). But I'm guessing that a lot of PS4 owners have been downloading this demo over the last nine months, which is probably a lot of bandwidth to foot the bill for against a big fat zero return after the game's cancellation. Nipping it in the bud now covers Konami/Sony's bases from an advertising and cost perspective.
That would be so evil, but no way they'd do this. Getting a patch through Sony's QA would cost them a whole bunch of money, right?
I was tempted to avatar quote you...
I can understand removing a teaser of a game that will never come out. On the other hand though, you were the first that made a Playable Teaser right after announcing some details behind a huge project... It would be awesome if other devs made more Playable teasers.
I can't defend this because it's not my fault or the fault of the consumers that Konami even gave the greenlight to the game in the first place to the point where they released a playable demo to the masses. As a company it's their responsibility to make these decisions, and getting it to the point where everyone's excited and they got people to pour work into something and then yanking it is incredibly irresponsible.
Maybe they should have thought this through before they got the ball rolling. If anything it just further proves their incompetence. You don't create something, get people excited, and then bury it in the dirt. If the budget was too much for them, oh well, they should have bit the bullet and learned from their mistake instead of taking it out on us.
If the budget were too high, did they seriously not have the intelligence to say no before anything even got going? If the project were truly unreasonable, they could have at least gimped it in some ways by either taking del Toro off, limiting the budget for Kojima Productions, etc. Sure, people would have still been pissed off, but not this bad and the game still probably would have turned out to be good.
You don't create something, get people excited, and then bury it in the dirt.
I'm confused, is this removed or what - in my US account it's still in my download list?
There's always someone will defend anything. The sad part is these aren't people just playing "devil's advocates." There are legitimately people who think this is ok because it's "just video games."
Preservation of culture matters immensely and there are thousands of years worth of precedent to attest to that.
Aren't physical discs these days just checks anyway?
Preservation of culture? Erm, really? It's a teaser for a cancelled video game.
Some of you guys take this stuff to the next level.