sammyCYBORG
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Discs... haha
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Quantum Break coming to Steam and Retail on 9/14
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I found the story to be very compelling and interesting. The TV show was also pretty cool, was a good change of pace from cutscenes, and I found it fairly entertaining. Quantum Break is honestly one of my highlights of the year, found it to be very engaging to play. I still return to it often to fuck around with the combat, or just marvel at the visuals.
Vic_Viper
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Where and wen will the PC retail version of the be available to pre order? I've been holding off since they didn't have a disc version for PC at launch and now I'm so in!
Tried GameStop and it wasn't in their system yet, any idea if/when it will be?
Also anyone with Amazon Prime know if the 20% off discount works when preordering it their?
Tried GameStop and it wasn't in their system yet, any idea if/when it will be?
Also anyone with Amazon Prime know if the 20% off discount works when preordering it their?
Because Azure will go away so fast. Right.
AcceptableGhost
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If your offline does the game not give you the option to skip the streamed episodes?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The issue isn't Azure going away, the issue is that one business unit of Microsoft doesn't necessarily want to sustain indefinitely the server instances, even if they're going to another business unit of Microsoft.
Note that in 2013, Microsoft launched Galactic Reign, which was a space strategy game for Windows Phone and the Windows App Store on Windows 8. The appeal of the game is that the main interface was very visually simple and would run on anything, but when you actually got into a fight, the game would render incredibly elaborate CG videos specific to the fight. But because this would be very large to store locally because of all the possibilities, the game would store the videos on a remote server and stream them to you. Does this sound familiar? It's the same way Quantum Break works with the TV cutscenes, and it's the same justification.
The game was unfortunately not a hit, probably because no one uses the Windows App Store and no one uses Windows Phone. Who knew? Anyway, 5 months after release, Microsoft shut down the game citing the costs of maintaining the server instances, which were also certainly on Azure.
Now I'm not saying Quantum Break will go away tomorrow or anything, but I'm saying we already have a case of Microsoft shutting down an unpopular online-required game because even though it was on Azure, they didn't want to pay to host and serve a bunch of videos from Azure.
If this analogy between the games is incorrect, I trust someone with Microsoft will clarify that they will maintain the Quantum Break servers for, say, 5 years minimum or guarantee a patch to make the game local-friendly (perhaps by just having compressed 1080p copies as local downloads like every other game ever does). If they haven't, then they invite people to draw comparisons.
You can skip the live action scenes no matter what. They knew some people didn't want to sit through a 20-30 minute cut scene in between each chapter.
You can follow the story just fine if you skip all the cut scenes.
I can imagine that they will see QB a little different and a bit more important (I hope). maybe the show is on the same "network" as the whole Halo series or other streaming movies they offer. As said before, I hope they add an option to download the episodes on Steam just like they did on Xbox One.
But they did not on the Windows Store as well.. so who knows
But they did not on the Windows Store as well.. so who knows
lucebuce12
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I would be considerably more willing to buy the game if that was the case. My internet is poo poo in terms of speed but has unlimited bandwidth so that would be great for me.
Exactly, but apparently there is no current intention to make them available for download, which is ridiculous if you ask me. I'm certain MS will end support eventually. Even though someone will workaround the issue when the time comes, it's a red flag for any game to have such a inaccessible component.
I have to wonder if it's some weird contractual issue with the actors or something.
It certainly isn't a technical one.
tioslash
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The live-action show is what is being streamed. All the TV episodes, not the game´s pre-rendered or real-time cutscenes.
is that integral to the story? does the story makes sense without that? or do the in game cutscenes explain everything?
LukasTaves
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The main story arc still makes perfect sense without the show. The show is focused on other characters and shows interactions that happens alongside the events of the game.
It's a great way to make the game universe more complete, which is also augmented by the emails and files you find through the game.
dr_rus
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So we're back to this again? I thought they said that they'll patch Win10 version alongside Steam version?
You can't use DX12 on not-Windows 10 and there's no benefit or reason to add DX11 to the already working DX12 version.
SmartWaffles
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In this case the DX11 render path is probably a lot better than the DX12 one which is pretty damn ineffective.
Dictator93
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Of course there is. If your DX12 code path is rushed and generally terrible (like this game's is btw) it is better to have driver optimisations via DX11.
LordRaptor
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Its not W10 raising the question, its W10 store.
I'd imagine its a mistake in the community FAQ, as the people who put up FAQs on message boards aren't the same people who write tech reqs for storefront pages, and the steam storefront clearly recommends DX12.
That depends on how good your DX12 code path is, and how optimized it is for different GPU architectures. We'll see shortly.
SLI is basically a DX driver hack implemented by nvidia, the game doesn't have to support it for them to make it work. obviously it can be easier or harder depending on the renderer's design but it's possible.
the only reason the previous version didn't support it is because the hack isn't possible for DX12 drivers.
I think it more likely they just went and quickly changed things to be <12 compatible. Any perf issues are more likely to be deeper in the code than that. I don't personally expect much of a difference.
lordfuzzybutt
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If anything I think their codebase was DX11, with DX12 path quickly implemented when MS want them to release on W10 store at the last minute. They themselves said that they have way more experience shipping DX11 titles. That hints at possible performance improvement. Plus IHVs can step in and optimize part of it on drivers level.
dr_rus
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But you can use Steam on Win10, right? As well as DX11 in WinStore. Makes no sense to keep two versions in two stores.
it's probably not that much extra work, and corp politics wise, it'd look like like they're migrating people from Win10Store to Steam if they went "okay, now all of you have to go redeem this Steam key for further updates".
It's also possible the Win 10 version will continue to have Live achievements/integration, while the Steam version will have Steam achievements/integration instead. I don't think Valve allows games to have achievements via Steamworks AND another store service at the same time.
LordRaptor
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Of course they do. Literally makes no difference to Valve.
Xbox Master The
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Good, good. I care more about what this might mean for Scalebound than Quantum Break itself.
You think Scalebound is coming to steam? Seems odd.
I'm not sure if someone has done this already or not but i'm sure someone will just capture/download the cutscenes (or episodes), convert them to a 1080p quality video and then release them online for people to download.
Wait and see.
They allow it, but it's rare. Mostly because there aren't really a lot of competing services that offer achievements on PC.
Of the top of my head, Batman Arkham City had both before WB removed the rotting carcass of GFWL from the game.
LordRaptor
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Ubi games routinely have their weird UPlay achievements that unlock game content things
Yup.
NeoRaider
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Pre-order is 26$ on cdkeys:
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/quantum-break-pc-steam-cd-key
Tempting. But i am worried about the performance.
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/quantum-break-pc-steam-cd-key
Tempting. But i am worried about the performance.
Don't do it. I still feel ripped off paying 20 bucks for the game since it's still not playable at a reasonable quality/performance ratio even with top of the line hardware.
Wait for the reports, key prices are unlikely to skyrocket or anything for this game lol
Brerlappin
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I got to the first scene and skipped it after 5 minutes. If I wanted to watch bad TV I'd go watch a syfy show.
Game is decent but yeah performance is all over the place. It's incredibly good looking tho
NeoRaider
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I don't know why but i think that DX11 performance will be better. lol
I wouldn't drop a dime before seeing some benchmarks lol.
tioslash
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tioslash
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I asked on twitter a couple days ago about this because I was very much interested in it and Remedy´s head of PR said that as far as he knows, there won´t be any digital versions of the extras. Not 100% definitive answer though, so I think we´ll have to wait a couple more weeks to see if there is any more information on that.
dr_rus
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I'm about 99% sure that it will be better on NV h/w. Not so much on AMD's though.
Cheers!
Remedy completely removed DX12 from Steam. Today they updated the store page, and removed DX12 mention, it was listed under Recommended SR. But...
Not anymore.
Well they also have called it "DX11-version" before, so it probably doesn't have DX12 renderer at all.
I think they also said there's no difference in image quality between DX11/12.